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  • 28-02-2018 7:23pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭


    Apparently one of opposition TDs accused the government of acting like Joseph Goebbels regarding the publicity surrounding the Ireland 2040 scheme

    Simon Harris, a senior government minister, then starts complaining that this was anti-semetic at which point the Dail was suspended

    If anything this would be anti-Nazi, can someone please explain how any sane person could possibility see this as anti-Semitic

    Perhaps, minister Harris should seriously consider if he is suitable for a life in front bench politics


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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,939 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    jahalpin wrote: »
    Apparently one of opposition TDs accused the government of acting like Joseph Goebbels regarding the publicity surrounding the Ireland 2040 scheme

    Simon Harris, a senior government minister, then starts complaining that this was anti-semetic at which point the Dail was suspended

    If anything this would be anti-Nazi, can someone please explain how any sane person could possibility see this as anti-Semitic

    Perhaps, minister Harris should seriously consider if he is suitable for a life in front bench politics
    my impression of Simon Harris is he has this very unpolitical tendency to give an honest answer to a question which by the seasoned politician might be a "ah sure look it/ talk about anything but what was asked" question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Creol1


    I presume what he was getting at was that equating the advertorials controversy with Nazism implicitly trivialised the murder and suffering of Jews in the Holocaust.

    Regarding Itssoeasy's comment, the Minister is very good at answering questions in a competent way that shows he is in charge of his brief, but honesty wouldn't be the word I would use. He says whatever is most politically expedient depending on the way the wind is blowing. He is young yet has risen to Cabinet rank without trace, and has done this through unstinting adherence to the party line, whatever it is. He's a man who knows what side his bread is buttered on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,911 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    jahalpin wrote: »
    Apparently one of opposition TDs accused the government of acting like Joseph Goebbels regarding the publicity surrounding the Ireland 2040 scheme

    Simon Harris, a senior government minister, then starts complaining that this was anti-semetic at which point the Dail was suspended

    If anything this would be anti-Nazi, can someone please explain how any sane person could possibility see this as anti-Semitic

    Perhaps, minister Harris should seriously consider if he is suitable for a life in front bench politics

    Very silly OP.

    Trivialising the Holocaust and associated Nazism is seen as anti-Semitic.

    Comparing an ad campaign promoting the most important planning document in Ireland to Goebbels is the sort of thing that trivialises the holocaust. Over the top response from Harris but an idiotic statement from whichever gob****e in the opposition brought up Goebbels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Joseph Goebbels was considered a master of propaganda, or at least he is remembered mainly for being a propagandist.

    That in itself has nothing to do with jews or the holocaust. In fact, Harris dragging the holocaust into it can be considered a cynical attempt to use that tragedy to silence the opposition TD who was complaining about this current example of govt. propaganda.


  • Registered Users Posts: 953 ✭✭✭mountai


    Harris has to be one of the most useless individuals ever to darken the doors of DE . He is an expert in wringing his hands , looking concerned with furrowed brows whilst spouting " Yes , we must look into that " . Still in" Political Nappies" , as George Hook said.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    recedite wrote: »
    Joseph Goebbels was considered a master of propaganda, or at least he is remembered mainly for being a propagandist.

    That in itself has nothing to do with jews or the holocaust.

    Perhaps by you, but 99.99999% of people remember Goebbels as a Nazi first and a propagandist second, and closely associated with the Holocaust. For example, wikipedia opens with:

    Paul Joseph Goebbels was a German Nazi politician and Reich Minister of Propaganda of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945. He was one of Adolf Hitler's close associates and most devoted followers, and was known for his skills in public speaking and his deep, virulent antisemitism, which was evident in his publicly voiced views. He advocated progressively harsher discrimination, including the extermination of the Jews in the Holocaust.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Harris should be ashamed using the Jewish plight under the Nazis to distract from FG waste.

    If somebody compares bombings to the blitz is that anti-semetic? Nonsense and disgraceful.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,848 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Familiar FG tactic. Jump to the emotive if under pressure in the Dail. We would call it 'deflection' in this parish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Creol1 wrote: »
    I presume what he was getting at was that equating the advertorials controversy with Nazism implicitly trivialised the murder and suffering of Jews in the Holocaust.

    Regarding Itssoeasy's comment, the Minister is very good at answering questions in a competent way that shows he is in charge of his brief, but honesty wouldn't be the word I would use. He says whatever is most politically expedient depending on the way the wind is blowing. He is young yet has risen to Cabinet rank without trace, and has done this through unstinting adherence to the party line, whatever it is. He's a man who knows what side his bread is buttered on.
    As with all ministers, he says what his advisors tell him to say.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Even Shatter said the remarks weren't anti-semitic.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    Can we please stop comparing everything to the Nazis its boring beyond belief.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    jahalpin wrote: »
    Apparently one of opposition TDs accused the government of acting like Joseph Goebbels regarding the publicity surrounding the Ireland 2040 scheme

    Simon Harris, a senior government minister, then starts complaining that this was anti-semetic at which point the Dail was suspended

    If anything this would be anti-Nazi, can someone please explain how any sane person could possibility see this as anti-Semitic

    Perhaps, minister Harris should seriously consider if he is suitable for a life in front bench politics

    Are you a FF supporter, OP? If so, you should know the name of the FF TD who started this non-event:D.


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