2014/2015 SUV

will56

Looking to trade a VW polo for an SUV to have more space for a car seat and boot space for buggy and everything else.
Would prefer an SUV for the added height when lifting a child in and out

Currently looking at Qashqais or the Ix35

Anyone have any reasons to choose one over the other ?

I'm also thinking of either going up north or over the water to actually purchase it. Even with travel etc there seems to be a couple of thousand to be saved, especially with the Qashqai ?

Mooooo

Sister has an ix35, grand car but boot space is small tbh with those type suv. Better off with an estate type car or saloon hatch like an Octavia for boot space. The height is about the only handy thing about it really for lifting smallies in and out of the car

will56

Mooooo wrote: »

Sister has an ix35, grand car but boot space is small tbh with those type suv. Better off with an estate type car or saloon hatch like an Octavia for boot space. The height is about the only handy thing about it really for lifting smallies in and out of the car

Yeah height is the big seller for an SUV tbh

Dia1988

Budget and annual mileage would help!

will56

Dia1988 wrote: »

Budget and annual mileage would help!

Budget: €14,000 , €15k at a push
Mileage: 25000 miles on average

Lantus

Most SUVs have small boots the qashqai is one. Most are not designed with families in mind.

For boot space and all round practicality a large hatch saloon. Like an Octavia.

The boot where small countries get lost and that snorts indifference to a trip to IKEA.

This whole mantra about getting high is driven by fashion and notions and not practicality.

Dia1988

Lantus wrote: »

Most SUVs have small boots the qashqai is one. Most are not designed with families in mind.

For boot space and all round practicality a large hatch saloon. Like an Octavia.

The boot where small countries get lost and that snorts indifference to a trip to IKEA.

This whole mantra about getting high is driven by fashion and notions and not practicality.

At last!! Someone who speaks the truth!!

A Mondeo/Passat/Octavia/Superb is a much better family car than any “SUV”

Shefwedfan

All of those crossovers have a small boot. The ix35, Tiguan/ Qashqai etc.

The Qashqai is a great car, solid as a rock. I have test drove the majority of them. The best drive I found was the Tiguan but it was the more expensive.

The ix35 was good as well. The Sportage was terrible compared to it, sounded like a tractor starting up.

You could look at the Renault Kadjar, not sure if out in that year, cheaper version of the Qashqai, engine etc is all the same but interior would be cheaper.

Seat Ateca seems to rank high, a cheaper version of Tiguan so worth a look.

Ford Kuga looks decent as well

A lot depends on your personal taste, personally if I was buying another again I would go with the Tiguan or the Seat.

They will all be higher ltr/100km compared to a car but you will love the height, especially if you are getting kids in and out....I swapped from Qashqai to A6, the drop in height with young kids will kill you.

With 25k miles per year that is very high, is it mostly motorway? If so a car might be better to keep the cost per ltr down?>

Shefwedfan

Dia1988 wrote: »

At last!! Someone who speaks the truth!!

A Mondeo/Passat/Octavia/Superb is a much better family car than any “SUV”

Not for everyone......cars can be great family vehicle but have huge draw backs as well

Plus the cars referred to are not SUV's, they are crossovers.....

r3nu4l

Dia1988 wrote: »

A Mondeo/Passat/Octavia/Superb is a much better family car than any “SUV”

To be honest, an estate is a far better option than a saloon, especially for getting buggies and baggage in and out of.

We have owned a 2.0l diesel Qashqai and 1.7L diesel ix35. Both were lovely to drive but boot space became an issue, particularly going on holidays. We had babies/toddlers when we owned both cars.

Getting kids in and out of the crossovers is fantastically easy on the back though, especially when you have to fight with them to get them into the seat

I currently drive a Kia Ce'ed estate and it's brilliant. I can get a full week's worth of shipping, buggy and major bag in and still have some room. Next car will definitely be an estate, with an even larger boot.

Practicality-wise, the estate edges out the crossovers but we still got by with our crossovers and only had storage issues some of the time.

None of these cars are ever going to win prizes for handling on rally circuits but for day to day, a to b driving they are fine.

bidiots

Lantus wrote: »

This whole mantra about getting high is driven by fashion and notions and not practicality.

Eh, wha?
I want a car that has a decent height.
Stooping to get in and out, stooping to put kids into their seats, solved by a 'SUV' type vechicle.
What fashion and notions are you referring to?

PGE1970

OP, this is something that you might like to consider. Really good car.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201801152781310?maximum-mileage=60000&price-from=10000&year-to=2015&make=MAZDA&model=CX-5&radius=1500&transmission=Manual&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&price-to=12000&year-from=2013&postcode=bt39jp&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&sort=sponsored&page=1

will56

PGE1970 wrote: »

OP, this is something that you might like to consider. Really good car.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201801152781310?maximum-mileage=60000&price-from=10000&year-to=2015&make=MAZDA&model=CX-5&radius=1500&transmission=Manual&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&price-to=12000&year-from=2013&postcode=bt39jp&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&sort=sponsored&page=1

Would love the Mazda but its going past our budget.
€14k max is where I'd like to cap it, only going above for something really really good

will56

r3nu4l wrote: »

To be honest, an estate is a far better option than a saloon, especially for getting buggies and baggage in and out of.

Getting kids in and out of the crossovers is fantastically easy on the back though, especially when you have to fight with them to get them into the seat

This is why we're looking at the crossovers. I imagine once lifting a child in and out is no longer an issue an estate or saloon will be our vehicle of choice.

Until then I want to make it as comfortable as possible on our backs

will56

Shefwedfan wrote: »

You could look at the Renault Kadjar, not sure if out in that year, cheaper version of the Qashqai, engine etc is all the same but interior would be cheaper.

With 25k miles per year that is very high, is it mostly motorway? If so a car might be better to keep the cost per ltr down?>

Kadjar seems to be outside the budget for the years we're looking at ?

25k would be the maximium I think. Commute is on back rounds for 80% of the trip but at a fairly constant speed. We do a couple of long trips each year as well which tends to bring up the average mileage.

I've heard that the Qashqai is fairly frugal on diesel ?

Shefwedfan

will56 wrote: »

Kadjar seems to be outside the budget for the years we're looking at ?

25k would be the maximium I think. Commute is on back rounds for 80% of the trip but at a fairly constant speed. We do a couple of long trips each year as well which tends to bring up the average mileage.

I've heard that the Qashqai is fairly frugal on diesel ?

At best mine was doing 7ltr/100km. It was a AWD version so I would hope the standard version would be better.

If on back roads you will wont be getting a whole pile better from a car to be honest as you will have a lot of slowing down/speeding up etc

Shefwedfan

Personally, I would not be concentrating on a plate and more on the better car. Why buy a car with a newer plate but it is a less premium car? the cheaper newer plate will depreciate quicker than the older premium model.

If it was my money I would be looking for something like this:
https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/volkswagen/tiguan/used-2012-volkswagen-tiguan-2-0td-dublin-fpa-2804689259894628600

Shefwedfan

Lantus wrote: »

Most SUVs have small boots the qashqai is one. Most are not designed with families in mind.

For boot space and all round practicality a large hatch saloon. Like an Octavia.

The boot where small countries get lost and that snorts indifference to a trip to IKEA.

This whole mantra about getting high is driven by fashion and notions and not practicality.

What are you talking about? the extra height is brillant for kids. Most people are aware the boots are smaller than a car....fashion has nothing to do with it....

I have 3 young kids and putting them in and out of a car each day is difficult to say the least, my next car will probably be a cross over just to give that height

Octavia is a cheap mans Passat, it gets boring with the amount of people on here saying how great they are. I have driven 3 different ones when I have my car in for a service. They are a terrible car, might as well sit in a tractor.

Lantus

Estate is a good call, great space. And yes there are more comfortable cars than Mondeo's and Octavia's. The A6 is one such but is also really low! And expensive.

Myself and thousands of other families use Octavia type cars for kids every day and are backs are ok thank you. Hospitals are not full of broken parents backs due to normal cars.

Are SUVs slightly better for lifting kids in? I'd say yes, but the category is fashion and fear driven in many cases. Safety being a much quoted justification . But there's a mentality where we feel we all need to upgrade otherwise we will be the vulnerable ones left on the road with everyone else in tanks.

And the cost of this slight height increase is quite significant. Ten k in most cases as a minimum which seems poor value for money.

Most parents like myself would love a q5 or a discovery to lord about in but the reality is that hard working cash strapped parents are limited to cars like Mondeo's or Octavias or Kia's and that's that. Just doing the best we can.

It's all relative. The guy with the 5 series can't stand a cheap tractor Skoda. But the guy with the Bentley or top end rolls Royce thinks the 5 series is a budget car for poor people.

bidiots

Jesus Christ such a condescending post! As well as horse manure.

Thousands of families use Tuscons also, but thats fashion.
Thousands of families use Octavia's, but thats not fashion.

Sorry but there is as much a 'hippie' fashion for octavia's as there is for your SUV fashion.
You have a problem with SUV's, well great, but thats your problem.

Myself and thousands of other families use Octavia type cars for kids every day and are backs are ok thank you. Hospitals are not full of broken parents backs due to normal cars.

So you are armed with hospital stats to back that theory?

Are SUVs slightly better for lifting kids in? I'd say yes, but the category is fashion and fear driven in many cases. Safety being a much quoted justification . But there's a mentality where we feel we all need to upgrade otherwise we will be the vulnerable ones left on the road with everyone else in tanks.

Bull.

And the cost of this slight height increase is quite significant. Ten k in most cases as a minimum which seems poor value for money.

Peoples budgets are their concern, not yours.

Most parents like myself would love a q5 or a discovery to lord about in but the reality is that hard working cash strapped parents are limited to cars like Mondeo's or Octavias or Kia's and that's that. Just doing the best we can.

Most parents? I'm a parent and completely disagree with you.

It's all relative. The guy with the 5 series can't stand a cheap tractor Skoda. But the guy with the Bentley or top end rolls Royce thinks the 5 series is a budget car for poor people.

Blah.

BTW, I drive a hatch so I have no bias.

Shefwedfan

Lantus wrote: »

Estate is a good call, great space. And yes there are more comfortable cars than Mondeo's and Octavia's. The A6 is one such but is also really low! And expensive.

Myself and thousands of other families use Octavia type cars for kids every day and are backs are ok thank you. Hospitals are not full of broken parents backs due to normal cars.

Are SUVs slightly better for lifting kids in? I'd say yes, but the category is fashion and fear driven in many cases. Safety being a much quoted justification . But there's a mentality where we feel we all need to upgrade otherwise we will be the vulnerable ones left on the road with everyone else in tanks.

And the cost of this slight height increase is quite significant. Ten k in most cases as a minimum which seems poor value for money.

Most parents like myself would love a q5 or a discovery to lord about in but the reality is that hard working cash strapped parents are limited to cars like Mondeo's or Octavias or Kia's and that's that. Just doing the best we can.

It's all relative. The guy with the 5 series can't stand a cheap tractor Skoda. But the guy with the Bentley or top end rolls Royce thinks the 5 series is a budget car for poor people.

I agree about your point of it is all relative but the rest is rubbish.

You do not pay 10k more for a crossover. Just to do quick comparison, new Passat starts at 28k and a new Tiguan is 29k.

Another example, the Octavia is 19k starting and the Yeti is 23k.

A couple of k at most, but in reality the car you would buy on main street would be same price.

All cars are generated because of fashion so that is a mute point. The really requirement was for people to have a SUV type vehicle that made sense in cities. A requirement generated due to the size of families these days, no longer is 4 kids the norm, 2 kids are the norm and a Crossover is perfect for this.

Safety again is a mute point, all cars that are built now have similar safety records. Unless you are buying a Range Rover then safety does not come into the decision of cross over v car.

There is no point making stuff up to try and confirm a post which was incorrect to start with.

AMKC

I disagree on what one poster said about the Kia Sportage. He must have driven it wrong or had a very rare bad one. I think the Kia Sportage is a much better car than a Nissan Qashqai and you should get a 151 well in budget that will be very swell equipped and very good over bumps and back roads. They are very quiet too. It would still have 4 years warranty with it as well.