Planning on small extension?

bcoll05

Hi.

Planning on building a small extension to the front of my house. Its 1.5 meters out by 3 meters wide going up the full two storeys of the house. I live on a quite cul de sac road just off a major road in a rural area. Only 3 other houses on the road.

Should I put in for planning or is there any need?

Peregrinus

There's always need, unless your development falls within a class of "exempted developments" set out in the planning regulations, for which no planning permission is needed.

I'm pretty sure that a 1.5m x 3m extension of two stories is not an exempted development.

sydthebeat

You require planning permission

Gumbo

bcoll05 wrote: »

Hi.

Planning on building a small extension to the front of my house. Its 1.5 meters out by 3 meters wide going up the full two storeys of the house. I live on a quite cul de sac road just off a major road in a rural area. Only 3 other houses on the road.

Should I put in for planning or is there any need?

Yes, Planning required.
Quite a straight forward process, so don't be afraid of it.

bcoll05

What's the cost for planning?
I was thinking of just not putting in for planning & just building it. It's not a big extension it's a porch really.

Peregrinus

bcoll05 wrote: »

What's the cost for planning?

It depends on what local authority area you're in. They set their own fees. In Dublin City, for example, the fee for an application for a domestic extension is €34.

bcoll05 wrote: »

I was thinking of just not putting in for planning & just building it. It's not a big extension it's a porch really.

The fees for applying for planning permission are always lower than the fees for applying for retention permission. Just sayin'.

Lumen

Porch is class 7 exemption if...

1. Any such structure shall be situated not less than 2 metres from any road.

2. The floor area of any such structure shall not exceed 2 square metres.

3. The height of any such structure shall not exceed, in the case of a structure with a tiled or slated pitched roof, 4 metres or, in any other case, 3 metres.

Source: http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2001/si/600/made/en/print

So...

bcoll05 wrote: »

Its 1.5 meters out by 3 meters wide

Not exempted.

bcoll05 wrote: »

going up the full two storeys of the house

Not exempted.

Bracken81

bcoll05 wrote: »

Hi.

Planning on building a small extension to the front of my house. Its 1.5 meters out by 3 meters wide going up the full two storeys of the house. I live on a quite cul de sac road just off a major road in a rural area. Only 3 other houses on the road.

Should I put in for planning or is there any need?

Definitely requires a Planning application

To build without applying is a massive risk

garbo speaks

Bracken81 wrote: »

Definitely requires a Planning application

To build without applying is a massive risk

He said its down a quiet cul-de-sac.....

Mod Edit: I have deleted the rest of your sentence. Not good advice!!! We respect the law on this forum.

Gumbo

garbo speaks wrote: »

He said its down a quiet cul-de-sac.....

Excellent. Can you show me the Planning regulations that cover this please.
I want to do similar.

Gumbo

It’s a 2 storey bay to the front.
It’s quite possible it could get refused. I wouldn’t recommend the retention route to anyone in this situation.

Remember it doesn’t have to be a neighbor that complains. It could be a local builder that didn’t get the job, it could be Mary, 12 fields to the west also.

Or it could be the local planner on their way to Sunday lunch and just happens to pass the site.

Bracken81

kceire wrote: »

It’s a 2 storey bay to the front.
It’s quite possible it could get refused. I wouldn’t recommend the retention route to anyone in this situation.

Remember it doesn’t have to be a neighbor that complains. It could be a local builder that didn’t get the job, it could be Mary, 12 fields to the west also.

Or it could be the local planner on their way to Sunday lunch and just happens to pass the site.

Anyone could complain.........an ex-girlfriend/boyfriend with a grudge

There in lies the massive risk

Gumbo

Bracken81 wrote: »

Anyone could complain.........an ex-girlfriend/boyfriend with a grudge

There in lies the massive risk

I agree.

Penn

garbo speaks wrote: »

He said its down a quiet cul-de-sac.....

Regardless of whether it's down a small country cul-de-sac or right in front of the County Council offices, you need planning permission. Whether you decide to go for it or not is one thing, but it is a requirement that you apply for it, and not doing so is unauthorised development which could lead to enforcement being issued against you.

Peregrinus

Plus, of course, there are possible problems later on when you come to sell the property, and the purchaser does a planning search and discovers that the development is unauthorised.