has anyone drove in UK on provisional

steos1982

hi just wondering if anyone drove in uk (wales) on irish provisional and got caught what happened.

spurious

The stupid would be fairly strong to do that.
They take things seriously over there.

From a UK solicitor's site:
Under the LC10 conviction code driving without a full driving licence can lead to 3-6 points on your licence and a potential fine of up to £1000. Additionally, if you drive without a licence AND insurance, you can be given a further 6-8 penalty points on top of the points you received for the initial offence and a fine of up to £5000. If the Courts feel it necessary, they have the authority to ban you from obtaining a full licence for a period of time that they see fit.

The punishments you can face therefore are the following:

Penalty points on your licence
Fines of up to £5000
Face a ban of acquiring a driving licence for a period of time
Additional costs from potential car insurers
Difficulties finding employment in certain job fields
Paying for any damages you may have caused

thelad95

Unlike in Ireland, they do take the rules of the road seriously, you’re car will be impounded and your LEARNER PERMIT won’t count for anything.

steos1982

are penalty points transferable from uk to irish license

steos1982

he is under the impression if caught he will get car taken off him and thats it, would he face jail etc

Del2005

steos1982 wrote: »

he is under the impression if caught he will get car taken off him and thats it, would he face jail etc

If they can't provide a UK address they are taken to court straight away. If the courts aren't in session they can put you in a cell till they open.

Penalty points and a substantial fine if caught in the UK with an Irish Learners Permit. Just to ad in the UK if you don't have a valid licence then you can't have valid insurance.

FishOnABike

Might be worth a read.
http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/penalties-driving-without-full-licence.html
There is mutual recognition of driving disqualification between the UK and Ireland
http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Licensed-Drivers/Driving-licence/Mutual-recognition-of-Driver-Disqualifications/

Mongfinder General

I don't think you can drive outside the Republic even with a fully licensed driver on a learner permit. As for points, I don't think they are transferable but you can expect a fine at the minimum.

IsaacWunder

You'd also want to check the t&cs of your insurance. You might not be covered if you drive outside the state with an L license. Having no insurance on car would be risking prison.

Seth Brundle

steos1982 wrote: »

hi just wondering if anyone drove in uk (wales) on irish provisional and got caught what happened.

We don't have provisional licences any more. If you drive in the UK you do without any legal backing

kerry4sam

Thread moved to where it would be better suited.

Thanks,
kerry4sam

FishOnABike

Mongfinder General wrote: »

I don't think you can drive outside the Republic even with a fully licensed driver on a learner permit. As for points, I don't think they are transferable but you can expect a fine at the minimum.

True, an Irish learner permit is only valid within Ireland. Driving on it in the UK is the same as driving without any licence.

HATZAETOS1924

Can't do unless on lesson or under supervision.   Loss of Licence and Heavy Fine

Seth Brundle

HATZAETOS1924 wrote: »

Can't do unless on lesson or under supervision.   Loss of Licence and Heavy Fine

What are you on?
The Irish Learner's Permit is not valid outside of the Republic! There's no ifs or buts.

Kitty6277

It literally says on the learner permit that it is only valid in the country of issue (i.e. Ireland), so yeah, I'd imagine he'd be in trouble for driving without a licence.

the_syco

http://cartwrightking.co.uk/areas-of-practice/motoring-law/driving-without-license/

Under the LC10 conviction code driving without a full driving licence can lead to 3-6 points on your licence and a potential fine of up to £1000.

As a learner, your mate will have a max of 7 points...!

Mongfinder General

the_syco wrote: »

http://cartwrightking.co.uk/areas-of-practice/motoring-law/driving-without-license/


As a learner, your mate will have a max of 7 points...!

Probably better off driving with no license.

Have I done it? Answer is Yes. My wife is from the north and often just over the border I'd drive the car around N. Ireland when I was on a provisional.

Should you do it? Answer is No. I got lucky and didn't get caught, if you get caught you could even be arrested :O Not worth it!