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Is it illegal for someone else to pay your tax bill?

  • 17-02-2018 11:35pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭


    Is it illegal for someone else to pay your tax bill?

    Say I owe €10,000 to revenue and I don't have it, if some generous citizen or friend offers to pay that €10,000 would they be allowed do it?

    Would capital acquisition tax have to be paid on it as the €10,000 is a gift, meaning the do-good-er would actually have to pay somewhere about €15,000, to cover my tax bill as well as the CAT I would have to pay on getting a cash gift.

    As far as I know I don't owe revenue anything, I was just curious about the system.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    98-00 wrote: »
    Is it illegal for someone else to pay your tax bill?

    Say I owe €10,000 to revenue and I don't have it, if some generous citizen or friend offers to pay that €10,000 would they be allowed do it?

    Would capital acquisition tax have to be paid on it as the €10,000 is a gift, meaning the do-good-er would actually have to pay somewhere about €15,000, to cover my tax bill as well as the CAT I would have to pay on getting a cash gift.

    As far as I know I don't owe revenue anything, I was just curious about the system.

    Wouldn't it be 33% on an amount in excess of €16,250? (If the person is only a friend)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭98-00


    mystic86 wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be 33% on an amount in excess of €16,250? (If the person is only a friend)

    Yes, I think your right. That would go towards the life time allowance on group C, isn't that right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,542 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Why not play them in poker and win, then use that money to pay it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭98-00


    Why not play them in poker and win, then use that money to pay it?

    I don't play but sounds like it should work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,686 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    Unless you and they have a track record in playing very high stakes poker, I doubt that'd wash.

    Revenue: How did you suddenly come up with this money to pay your tax bill?

    You: oh I won it playing poker

    Revenue: WTF, how did you manage that, seeing as you're otherwise skint.

    (Revenue then think, logically, that there's more to this and maybe there's more money floating around somewhere, untaxed...)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,436 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Revenue: How did you suddenly come up with this money to pay your tax bill?

    They would assume that you used some of your taxable income to pay the tax. Like everyone else in the State.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,542 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Unless you and they have a track record in playing very high stakes poker, I doubt that'd wash.

    Revenue: How did you suddenly come up with this money to pay your tax bill?

    You: oh I won it playing poker

    Revenue: WTF, how did you manage that, seeing as you're otherwise skint.

    (Revenue then think, logically, that there's more to this and maybe there's more money floating around somewhere, untaxed...)

    All you need is a chip and a chair ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,686 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    They would assume that you used some of your taxable income to pay the tax. Like everyone else in the State.

    I'm thinking more in the sphere of an audit liability. If it's just a normal run of the mill pay & file scenario, then as you say above.


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