Freesat dish size sligo

micks_address

Hi folks,
My aunt has some trouble receiving few channels. She has a small enough dish. If she wanted rock solid reception what size dish would be advised? Also what make lnb? I know some of them are supposed to be better than others. Feeding ariva 120 combi
Thanks,
Mick

Johnboy1951

micks_address wrote: »

Hi folks,
My aunt has some trouble receiving few channels. She has a small enough dish. If she wanted rock solid reception what size dish would be advised? Also what make lnb? I know some of them are supposed to be better than others. Feeding ariva 120 combi
Thanks,
Mick

Maybe the dish or LNB moved slightly?
What sized dish does she have?
What channels is she having trouble with? .... the answer might indicate what the problem could be.

micks_address

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Maybe the dish or LNB moved slightly?
What sized dish does she have?
What channels is she having trouble with? .... the answer might indicate what the problem could be.

Challenge TV and sky news. The dish is on s pole low to the ground. There's a bush I'd say that'd possibly interfering with signal path. Really think it should be on the wall I think. Re size I'm not sure. I'd say standard sky dish size.
Thanks,
Mick

micks_address

micks_address wrote: »

Challenge TV and sky news. The dish is on s pole low to the ground. There's a bush I'd say that'd possibly interfering with signal path. Really think it should be on the wall I think. Re size I'm not sure. I'd say standard sky dish size.
Thanks,
Mick

I checked frequency of channels and they are fine...

micks_address

micks_address wrote: »

I checked frequency of channels and they are fine...

Cut the Bush today nothing now blocking dish bit still no joy in it sky news or challenge tv. Attached pictures of signal strength on the tps

Looks low?

Thanks,
Mick

micks_address

micks_address wrote: »

I checked frequency of channels and they are fine...

Cut the Bush today nothing now blocking dish bit still no joy in it sky news or challenge tv. Attached pictures of signal strength on the tps

Looks low?

Thanks,
Mick

micks_address

micks_address wrote: »

Cut the Bush today nothing now blocking dish bit still no joy in it sky news or challenge tv. Attached pictures of signal strength on the tps

Looks low?

Thanks,
Mick

Dish is in bad spot..

dxhound2005

She had the same problem two years ago, and probably all the time since. I think we can see the reason now. The dish does not need to be very high off the ground, but it should be higher than that. I'm surprised the installer set it up like that.

As I said two years ago, she could be missing hundreds of channels, but you would have to do a full scan to find out.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=98919860

micks_address

dxhound2005 wrote: »

She had the same problem two years ago, and probably all the time since. I think we can see the reason now. The dish does not need to be very high off the ground, but it should be higher than that. I'm surprised the installer set it up like that.

As I said two years ago, she could be missing hundreds of channels, but you would have to do a full scan to find out.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=98919860

It's a zone 2 sky dish with single lnb. To guarantee full service, what dish / lnb should she go for? I'll get some one professional to fit for her. Weird thing is it's be fine all this time. Channels have moved and needed retuning bit first time she lost channels since.

Thanks,
Mick

micks_address

dxhound2005 wrote: »

She had the same problem two years ago, and probably all the time since. I think we can see the reason now. The dish does not need to be very high off the ground, but it should be higher than that. I'm surprised the installer set it up like that.

As I said two years ago, she could be missing hundreds of channels, but you would have to do a full scan to find out.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=98919860

Btw the dish does have clear view of sky...

Thurston?

dxhound2005 wrote: »

... The dish does not need to be very high off the ground, but it should be higher than that.

Why? Just to keep it out of harm's way?

OP, how is the pole anchored in the ground?

dxhound2005

Looking at the picture, it is being blocked by the foliage, meaning that only the strong transponders are getting through. Mick would need to do a full scan. If it is only the few channels that are still missing, I withdraw my analysis.

micks_address

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Looking at the picture, it is being blocked by the foliage, meaning that only the strong transponders are getting through. Mick would need to do a full scan. If it is only the few channels that are still missing, I withdraw my analysis.

It's not being blocked by anything. I think the problem is the dish isn't aligned 100% the picture is deceiving. I thought same last night which is why we cut away load of stuff today. If you stand being the dish and look out you have clear line of sight.

Two years ago she got a new dish, that was on side wall of the house. A few days later channels dropped. Another guy called and took dish off wall and spent a day fluting around moving the dish around the garden and finally got signal where he erected it on the low pole. I'm not sure what sort of meter he had but I'm guess it was something really basic. She loves her TV so I'd like to have it right for her. I'm thinking something like a 62cm sab dish and good lnb maybe inverto and a professional installation.

I'll phone sat planet early neat week to organise it.

Thanks,
Mick

micks_address

Thurston? wrote: »

Why? Just to keep it out of harm's way?

OP, how is the pole anchored in the ground?

It feels very solid to be fair, I think he concreted it into ground

micks_address

micks_address wrote: »

It feels very solid to be fair, I think he concreted it into ground

Dish like this?

http://sat-planet.ie/satellite-tv/dishes/universal?product_id=648

What size is a zone 2 sky dish?

micks_address

micks_address wrote: »

Dish like this?

http://sat-planet.ie/satellite-tv/dishes/universal?product_id=648

What size is a zone 2 sky dish?

Maybe this be better?

http://sat-planet.ie/satellite-tv/dishes/universal/78cm-triax-satellite-dish-non-rust

dxhound2005

Just to satisfy my curiosity, would you be willing to do a full scan? It should get you 931 TV stations, 500 if you scan Free to Air only.

http://en.kingofsat.net/pos-28.2E.php

micks_address

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Just to satisfy my curiosity, would you be willing to do a full scan? It should get you 931 TV stations, 500 if you scan Free to Air only.

http://en.kingofsat.net/pos-28.2E.php

No I won't do full scan as will fill up the box with loads of channels and I've sorted it in a way she likes and knows where channels are. She watches ewtn and bbcs utvs and channel four and five.. They all fine.. I think it's pretty obvious there's an issue with the dish.. Unlikely to be a box issue.

Thurston?

micks_address wrote: »

... What size is a zone 2 sky dish?

A zone 2 dish has about the same gain as a round 60cm dish, iirc.

If the installer had to go searching for a spot to put the dish, there must be something odd going on, either with other obstructions or maybe interference from say a phone mast: is the dish looking at any kind of communications gear?

dxhound2005

Just for information, EWTN Catholic on 11265 V is 15.5 dB on my setup now. Two years ago it was 11.1 which is only a fair signal. 15.5 is strong and the footprint is at the max all over Ireland. There are another 8 channels on that transponder. It might have changed frequency.

micks_address

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Just for information, EWTN Catholic on 11265 V is 15.5 dB on my setup now. Two years ago it was 11.1 which is only a fair signal. 15.5 is strong and the footprint is at the max all over Ireland. There are another 8 channels on that transponder. It might have changed frequency.

Ewtn is fine for her. No problems.. Challenge and sky news are issue as per screenshot

micks_address

Thurston? wrote: »

A zone 2 dish has about the same gain as a round 60cm dish, iirc.

If the installer had to go searching for a spot to put the dish, there must be something odd going on, either with other obstructions or maybe interference from say a phone mast: is the dish looking at any kind of communications gear?

There are eircom masts not to far away. Rathedmond estate.. That being said her neighbours are fine.. No issue with satellite dish

micks_address

Thurston? wrote: »

A zone 2 dish has about the same gain as a round 60cm dish, iirc.

If the installer had to go searching for a spot to put the dish, there must be something odd going on, either with other obstructions or maybe interference from say a phone mast: is the dish looking at any kind of communications gear?

I'm not convinced he had a proper meter.. He was more a TV aerial guy than sat expert

Thurston?

micks_address wrote: »

There are eircom masts not to far away. Rathedmond estate.. That being said her neighbours are fine.. No issue with satellite dish

If they're any distance away, they should be well out of the dish LOS.

Maybe the original problem was the house itself getting in the way, although you'd think the installer being an 'aerial guy' would have just went for the chimney, if another wall was out of the question, for whatever reason?

Thurston?

Just to add, I wouldn't be surprised if some installers don't recheck their 'perfect' signal after final tightening of bolts etc.

micks_address

Thurston? wrote: »

Just to add, I wouldn't be surprised if some installers don't recheck their 'perfect' signal after final tightening of bolts etc.

Probably first port of call is to get the alignment checked. I'll start there. The dish is in perfect condition so be waste replacing it..

Thurston?

micks_address wrote: »

Probably first port of call is to get the alignment checked ...

Yep, that's a definite no-brainer, & if you're going to do it yourself, & given the dish location, it would suit taking a receiver & TV out beside it for signal checking purposes, if need be.

micks_address

Thurston? wrote: »

Yep, that's a definite no-brainer, & if you're going to do it yourself, & given the dish location, it would suit taking a receiver & TV out beside it for signal checking purposes, if need be.

I'll leave it to the professionals..

MenloPete

micks_address wrote: »

I'll leave it to the professionals..

Mick, before you do anything else, check the LO frequency, this has fixed several people's issues like this with high frequency TPs.
Under Antenna Setup, the LNB frequency should be Universal 9750-10600

micks_address

MenloPete wrote: »

Mick, before you do anything else, check the LO frequency, this has fixed several people's issues like this with high frequency TPs.
Under Antenna Setup, the LNB frequency should be Universal 9750-10600

Thanks I away back to Dublin but will ask brother to look at it

micks_address

micks_address wrote: »

Thanks I away back to Dublin but will ask brother to look at it

Just wanted to bump this thread to say thanks... Was exactly the the problem with lnb frequency. Was set to 9750-10700