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2040 Plan Waterford Thread

  • 16-02-2018 2:35pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,086 ✭✭✭✭ Harry Palmr


    Just went through it and this is what I find mentioning Waterford directly.

    Urban Regeneration and Development Fund: €2 billion, under the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government will support the co-development of the NPF’s growth enablers for the five cities and other large urban centres. Examples of projects that have the potential to receive support under the Fund would include the development of the Cork Docklands (City Docks and Tivoli and associated mobility and bridge access), the Limerick 2030 initiative, the Waterford North Quays SDZ regeneration project, the plans for Galway City Centre regeneration, and the Portlaoise urban design and renewal initiative
    €2 billion allocated for an Urban Regeneration and Development Fund – to promote co-ordinated investment in the renewal and redevelopment of our cities and towns. This fund will support the co-development of the NPF’s growth enablers for the five cities, examples could include Cork Docklands (City Docks and Tivoli and associated mobility and bridge access), Limerick 2030, Waterford North Quays Strategic Development Zone (SDZ), and Galway City Centre regeneration.
    The following sections of the national road network will be progressed through pre-appraisal and early planning during 2018 to prioritise projects which are proceeding to construction in the National Development Plan.

    • N24 Waterford to Cahir• N25 Waterford to Glenmore
    The investment under the National Development Plan will allow An tarto continue to play its important role in employment creation in Gaeltacht areas over the period of the plan/

    /In order to achieve this, the incremental increase in the annual capital allocation to €12 million will enable the creation of an additional 400 jobs annually, bringing to over 1,000 the number of jobs created annually in Gaeltacht areas across counties Donegal, Mayo, Galway, Cork, Kerry, Waterford and Meath. In addition, significant investment will be made in order to bring ar property and infrastructure portfolio to an appropriate standard to attract new enterprise
    A number of sustainable transport projects will be delivered over the period to 2027 across the five cities Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford to provide additional sustainable travel options to complement increased capacity and faster higher quality public transport in the cities. These will include traffic management, bus priority and other smarter travel projects along with new urban cycling and walking routes to allow transport infrastructure to function more effectively and relieve congestion

    Park-and-Ride Programme: strategic park and ride sites plus investment in parking facilities at rail, Luas and bus locations, for example, Swords, Finglas, Dunboyne, Liffey Valley, Naas Road, Carrickmines, Woodbrook and Greystones and with national development of BusConnects, for example, Galway, Cork, Limerick and Waterford
    DA property solutions, strategic sites and grants in all regions will deliver new Foreign Direct Investment and high-quality jobs/

    /This action will build on IDA’s current €150 million regional property investment programme that has delivered new advanced buildings in Athlone, Castlebar, Sligo, Galway, Limerick, Tralee and Waterford, among other locations.
    €60 million EI Regional Enterprise Development Fund

    Innovation and technology partnership collaborations approved include, InsurTech Network Centre in Carlow, AgriTech Centre of Excellence in Kerry plus, Irish Manufacturing Research in Westmeath and ThreeD (design develop disseminate) Waterford.
    Regional Innovation – EI, IDA Ireland and SFI Technology and Research Centres

    • Pharmaceutical Manufacturing: research across pharmaceutical manufacturing chain, continuous and powder processing, advanced rapid micro-analytical techniques, partners include UCC, University of Limerick (UL), IT Sligo, IT Tralee, Cork IT (CIT), Waterford IT and IT Tallaght.
    Continued Exchequer support for smaller regional airports is planned under the Regional Airports Programme (Ireland West Airport Knock, Waterford Airport, Donegal Airport and Kerry Airport).
    and the importance of continuing investment to further improve the quality of port facilities, particularly those in the South-East such as Rosslare and the Port of Waterford given their role in maintaining transportation linkages with crucial EU markets
    Acute Hospital developments including:Waterford ward block•
    Role of Regional Investment Plans
    The NPF and the associated legislative framework will guide the Regional Assemblies’ delivery of statutory RSESs. These strategies will include new Metropolitan Area Strategic Plans for the cities of Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford. This concept represents a major innovation in enabling the adoption of an integrated, consolidated and coherent approach to regional planning. Spatial planning in relation to the Greater Dublin Area (GDA) already provides an example of co-ordination of sectoral plans

    n order to ensure the RSESs are practical and realistically aligned to the level of available investment resources, each Regional Assembly is establishing high-level steering groups comprising senior officials from local authorities, Government Departments/Agencies and commercial-State companies to oversee the preparation of the RSESs. The steering groups will also ensure that their plans are properly aligned with NPF National Strategic Outcomes and are, in aggregate, deliverable within the available public capital investment resources set out in chapter 3. It is envisaged that by end-2018 each RSES should be finalised containing agreed priority investment projects capable of being delivered within the capital allocation available to Departments and Agencies
    In this way, the National Development Plan will support the achievement of more balanced development of:• Ireland’s three regions: the Northern and Western Region; the Southern Region; and the Eastern and Midland Region;• Ireland’s main cities, Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford, whose success is central to the success of these regions
    Waterford City and Metropolitan Area Waterford is the principal urban centre in Ireland’s
    south-east and is unique in having a network of large and strong regional urban centres in close
    proximity within each of the surrounding counties that both complement the role of Waterford and
    perform strong regional and local economic and developmental roles for their own areas.
    Given the unique urban composition of the south east and the objective to enable Waterford City
    to become a regional city of scale, an agreed development strategy is required to build
    Waterford’s population and employment base substantially while enabling surrounding urban
    centres to perform complementary roles. From a national perspective, a stronger Waterford
    City would lead the development of the wider south-east, which has experienced slower economic
    recovery than the national average in recent years, together with high unemployment rates, lower
    value job opportunities and less job creation.

    The City is well-served by motorway and rail links to Dublin, but requires improved road links to
    other major urban areas, particularly Cork and Limerick, and also within the region to towns that
    are not served by motorway. Waterford and the wider south-east region is also served by a regional
    airport and the Port of Waterford at Belview and Rosslare-Europort, which are geographically
    close to EU trading partners and will be important in Ireland’s response to Brexit, and an Institute
    of Technology, to form part of a Technological University.

    The WIT must be pretty disappointed with the crumbs they are getting.

    Read the whole thing here http://www.gov.ie/en/pdf-viewer/?file=https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/govieassets/18/5569359-NDP%20strategy%202018-2027_WEB.pdf#page=35


Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭ dzilla


    Atlantic corridor was originally from Letterkenny to Waterford I believe. Now its Cork to Sligo. N25 between Cork and Waterford needs to be HQDC at this stage. Disappointing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭ Max Powers


    Re WIT, There's stuff on investment and TECH UNI too.tech uni south east gets particular mention


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,086 ✭✭✭✭ Harry Palmr


    Max Powers wrote: »
    Re WIT, There's stuff on investment and TECH UNI too.tech uni south east gets particular mention

    Yep just found it on http://npf.ie/wp-content/uploads/Project-Ireland-2040-NPF.pdf - added to the OP
    South-East
    Counties Carlow, Kilkenny, Waterford and Wexford,
    as well as the southern part of County Tipperary are
    included in this regional area. Although it has a strong
    urban structure, much of this area is rural in character
    and includes some of Ireland’s most productive
    agricultural land.

    A Metropolitan Area Strategic Plan (MASP) will
    be prepared for the Waterford Metropolitan area
    through the Regional Spatial and Economic Strategy
    process. Strategically located between Cork and
    Dublin, with a network of large towns, the southeast
    has capacity for improved growth, but has not
    had a focus sufficient in scale to drive the sustained
    development of the region as a whole.
    Regional opportunities to leverage growth include
    national and international connectivity, especially
    via ports proximate to continental Europe, such
    as Belview and Rosslare-Europort, strengthening
    HEIs and further balanced employment and housing
    development in key settlements and county towns.
    This must be based on infrastructure and quality of
    life, rather than long distance commuting to Dublin, as
    is apparent in part of counties Carlow and Wexford in
    particular.
    Waterford City and Metropolitan Area

    Waterford is the principal urban centre in Ireland’s
    south-east and is unique in having a network of
    large and strong regional urban centres in close
    proximity within each of the surrounding counties
    that both complement the role of Waterford and
    perform strong regional and local economic and
    developmental roles for their own areas.
    Given the unique urban composition of the south
    east and the objective to enable Waterford City
    to become a regional city of scale, an agreed
    development strategy is required to build
    Waterford’s population and employment base
    substantially while enabling surrounding urban
    centres to perform complementary roles.
    From a national perspective, a stronger Waterford
    City would lead the development of the wider
    south-east, which has experienced slower economic
    recovery than the national average in recent years,
    together with high unemployment rates, lower
    value job opportunities and less job creation.

    The City is well-served by motorway and rail links
    to Dublin, but requires improved road links to
    other major urban areas, particularly Cork and
    Limerick, and also within the region to towns that
    are not served by motorway. Waterford and the
    wider south-east region is also served by a regional
    airport and the Port of Waterford at Belview
    and Rosslare-Europort, which are geographically
    close to EU trading partners and will be important
    in Ireland’s response to Brexit, and an Institute
    of Technology, to form part of a Technological
    University.

    Expect a missive from Kilkenny City soonest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,480 ✭✭✭✭ Jamie2k9


    dzilla wrote: »
    Atlantic corridor was originally from Letterkenny to Waterford I believe. Now its Cork to Sligo. N25 between Cork and Waterford needs to be HQDC at this stage. Disappointing.

    It was to Waterford at first but it was never planned Cork-Waterford would be dual carriageway/motorway. Only sections were the new motorway to Midleton and the outer Dungarvan bypass was to be dual carriageway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭ Deiseen


    Waterford needs to make full use of this €2 billion fund if it wants to keep up. What do we think can be achieved with this?

    Ideas
    1. Purchase Waterford Crystal site for WIT/Walsh Park Upgrade
    2. Upgrade of Tramore Road to with dual carriageway
    3. Conversion of Car Parks on Quays to public space
    4. Major Revamp of Ballybricken
    5. Third Bridge for Road Traffic
    6. As much funding for extended runway for airport as is allowed
    7. Extend Suirvalley Railway into city
    8. Extending of Greenway into City


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,086 ✭✭✭✭ Harry Palmr


    This isn't a wish list fund


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭ Deiseen


    This isn't a wish list fund

    What is it then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,086 ✭✭✭✭ Harry Palmr


    A prescription sent down from Dublin, they'll tell us where the money will be spent and they'll oversee same.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭ Deiseen


    A prescription sent down from Dublin, they'll tell us where the money will be spent and they'll oversee same.

    So we will get nothing then basically.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,086 ✭✭✭✭ Harry Palmr


    Well strip out the Saudi investment and frankly there's feck all in this beyond what should be routine spending by a state in a city area.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭ Deiseen


    Well strip out the Saudi investment and frankly there's feck all in this beyond what should be routine spending by a state in a city area.

    Not to mention that its an investment that the government is scheduled to get back 5 times the amount. Hopefully this investment is the catalyst for future investment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭✭ jimbo1979


    Without the Saudi investment it's only chicken feed what the government is giving us compared to the investments in cork-limerick.a bit disappointing,really thought Waterford might have gotten a bit more investment with collage,airport,hospital,motorway


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭ BBM77


    Have to agree. Am struggling to see what the government are planning to do to achieve “a stronger Waterford City”. Don’t have a problem with upgrading the N24/N25 etc but they have not committed to putting anything in Waterford. They will just take credit for the work of the city and county council and the Alhokair Group.


  • Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭ imacman


    Re WIT, There's stuff on investment and TECH UNI too.tech uni south east gets particular mention
    WIT is finished as we know it, its about to become a sub campus of the TUSE with ITcarlow calling all the shots in the merger process with the backing of the HEA, the Dept of Education and minister. WIT s financial position makes it the weak and they are rolling over to Carlow right now making concessions on everything and letting Carlow lead on everything.Its a sad day for Waterford and WITs proud staff as they are sold down the river for the yellow pack university


  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭ fargojones123


    No mention of a Limerick - Waterford Motorway :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭ curmudgeonly


    No mention of a Limerick - Waterford Motorway :(

    Limerick /Cork should be through Cahir/Mitchelstown and hey presto you have half of it built and the best bang for your buck, but hey this is Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,086 ✭✭✭✭ Harry Palmr


    There is Waterford to Limerick Junction but that is at the most preliminary stage. Be a few years before anything happens.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭ BBM77


    Limerick /Cork should be through Cahir/Mitchelstown and hey presto you have half of it built and the best bang for your buck, but hey this is Ireland.

    You'd wonder if that will be the way it ends up. It's ridiculous upgrading the N20 and N24. When upgrading the N24 will do the same job and cost half the money of doing both. But as you say, hey this is Ireland.

    Completely smacks of a political decision. Cork TD’s probably thought it would be great to have a motorway go down the west of the country and end in Cork. If it branched in Cahir/Mitchelstown going to Cork and Waterford it would not fit in with their delusion that they are something special.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,911 ✭✭✭✭ Johnboy1951


    No mention of a Limerick - Waterford Motorway :(

    Lmk Junction to Cahir
    Cahir to Waterford
    Waterford to Glenmore
    NewRoss bypass

    None of them motorway ...... and no mention of bypassing the other villages between the junction and Lmk.

    The great Atlantic road was originally stated to go as far as Waterford.
    That has now apparently changed and it stops in Cork!

    A motorway is badly needed from Rosslare to Limerick.
    I am more than a little surprised that the Tipp politicians did not get something done about their horrible east-west road. :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭ curmudgeonly


    I think it was Dr Ed Walsh first postulated the idea as The Atlantic Technopolis, with a motorway from Galway through Limerick Cork Waterford and onto to Rosslare , the whole idea behind it was to create a counter weight to Dubland sic.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭ BBM77


    Have nothing against upgrading roads but building roads is not going to create a counter weight to Dublin. Investing in places like Waterford city will. Upgrading WIT properly will. We already have a motorway from Belfast all the way down to Waterford. What difference has it actually made?


  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭ curmudgeonly


    BBM77 wrote: »
    Have nothing against upgrading roads but building roads is not going to create a counter weight to Dublin. Investing in places like Waterford city will. Upgrading WIT properly will. We already have a motorway from Belfast all the way down to Waterford. What difference has it actually made?
    Really? Are you serious?


  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭ fargojones123


    Lmk Junction to Cahir
    Cahir to Waterford
    Waterford to Glenmore
    NewRoss bypass

    None of them motorway ...... and no mention of bypassing the other villages between the junction and Lmk.

    It is hard to understand why none of these will be Motorways when Gorey to Enniscorthy will be
    The great Atlantic road was originally stated to go as far as Waterford.
    That has now apparently changed and it stops in Cork!

    That's to prevent strengthening Waterford's argument to be included in the Wild Atlantic Way


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭ 914


    Limerick /Cork should be through Cahir/Mitchelstown and hey presto you have half of it built and the best bang for your buck, but hey this is Ireland.

    Fully agree if you construct mitchelstown to limerick you now have, Cork, Limerick, Waterford and Galway all connected by Motorway.

    Motorway from Waterford to Cahir, micthlestown to Limerick.

    Waterford as far as New Ross bypass and you now have cork, limerick and galway connected to rosslare (europort) via motorway.

    You then have every city in Ireland connected via motorway/dual carriageway. For probably the same money. Seems silly to connect two cities when you could connect four at the same cost


  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭ fargojones123


    914 wrote: »
    Fully agree if you construct mitchelstown to limerick you now have, Cork, Limerick, Waterford and Galway all connected by Motorway.

    Motorway from Waterford to Cahir, micthlestown to Limerick.

    Waterford as far as New Ross bypass and you now have cork, limerick and galway connected to rosslare (europort) via motorway.

    You then have every city in Ireland connected via motorway/dual carriageway. For probably the same money. Seems silly to connect two cities when you could connect four at the same cost

    It wouldn't be a bad idea, shame some people won't like it because it wouldn't be a direct route.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭ Deise Vu


    It wouldn't be a bad idea, shame some people won't like it because it wouldn't be a direct route.

    I think a connection to Limerick / Galway by Motorway would be more than welcomed. The objection to that serving as the connection to Cork is that it wouldn't be really any faster than the current road although travelling times would at least be guaranteed.

    I would be happy enough with a Western connection and an upgrade of the current road by just bypassing Killeagh and Castlemartyr which could probably be done with 2 Kms of tarmac and some political will. If Dungarvan was also given a bypass, travelling times to Cork wouldn't be much over an hour and a quarter. Though I would imagine there will be uproar if someone tries to build a road that would have to go very close to slicing into the Comeraghs. How much of an economic boost does a bunch of crusties living in trees bring?:(:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭ fargojones123


    Deise Vu wrote: »
    I think a connection to Limerick / Galway by Motorway would be more than welcomed. The objection to that serving as the connection to Cork is that it wouldn't be really any faster than the current road although travelling times would at least be guaranteed.

    I would be happy enough with a Western connection and an upgrade of the current road by just bypassing Killeagh and Castlemartyr which could probably be done with 2 Kms of tarmac and some political will. If Dungarvan was also given a bypass, travelling times to Cork wouldn't be much over an hour and a quarter. Though I would imagine there will be uproar if someone tries to build a road that would have to go very close to slicing into the Comeraghs. How much of an economic boost does a bunch of crusties living in trees bring?:(:(

    The link to Cork via Mitchelstown would more to the benefit of the people travelling from Limerick to Cork and the reverse. A dedicated Cork to Rosslare motorway would still be needed, but it would be a start.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,911 ✭✭✭✭ Johnboy1951


    Deise Vu wrote: »
    I think a connection to Limerick / Galway by Motorway would be more than welcomed. The objection to that serving as the connection to Cork is that it wouldn't be really any faster than the current road although travelling times would at least be guaranteed.

    Presently it is nearly all motorway, since the bypass of Gort was completed.
    I would be happy enough with a Western connection and an upgrade of the current road by just bypassing Killeagh and Castlemartyr which could probably be done with 2 Kms of tarmac and some political will. If Dungarvan was also given a bypass, travelling times to Cork wouldn't be much over an hour and a quarter. Though I would imagine there will be uproar if someone tries to build a road that would have to go very close to slicing into the Comeraghs. How much of an economic boost does a bunch of crusties living in trees bring?:(:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,911 ✭✭✭✭ Johnboy1951


    Limerick /Cork should be through Cahir/Mitchelstown and hey presto you have half of it built and the best bang for your buck, but hey this is Ireland.

    Making it necessary to travel from Limerick to Cahir to get to Cork would not be near ideal.
    Limerick to Mitchelstown would be more acceptable, if it could be done.

    On the other hand a motorway from Limerick to Cahir and on to Rosslare is badly needed. So if the Lmk/Cahir section was done first it would serve two purposes.
    It might be all that is needed if it got well used by Lmk/Cork traffic.

    EDIT: The more I think about it the better I like the Lmk/Cahir motorway for the Lmk/Cork traffic .....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,086 ✭✭✭✭ Harry Palmr


    In the roads board this has been discussed a lot, have to check to see who won that one!


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