VRT'ing a Japanese VW?

projectgtr

My partner is currently looking at golfs (mostly 1.4TSI) at auction in japan. She asked me to check the VRT on them for her, no big deal or so I thought, but the online calculator will only let me pick Volkwagen from the drop down menu if i select "No" to the first question "Was the vehicle first registered in Japan?" How did peoples VRT experience go with bringing in a VW from japan? I doubt it but do they just go with the UK rates?

Thanks in advance

colm_mcm

I would select ‘no’ for the Japan bit. I’d imagine the VRT would be largely the same as a U.K. one. Might be more complicated proving emissions than on a European car though. Factor in import duty too.

Neilw

Don't forget you will have to pay VAT on the price at 23% too.

As for VRT, as mentioned it should be similar to a UK car.

Jap car could be more expensive to insure, the radio will be in Japanese and the FM frequency will be wrong.
I'm not sure if the car will have an immobiliser either.

Also factor in the cost of a timing chain replacement with the revised chain, they are very prone to stretching the chain and breaking in some cases.

michellie

Op you will have to get document evidence of the Co2, This isn't stated on the jap reg doc.

Also make sure you get the SAD doc from when it comes into the country so you won't have to pay VAT on top of the VRT.

There most likely won't be a STAT Code for that car so it may have to be sent to revenue to get the price back.

Lantus

Sounds like an extra pain. How much cheaper than the UK imports would it be?

5500

It's the same process as with any other jap car so you probably know the ropes already from importing before, except they won't quote you on the day of inspection because it's not on the system as jap , they'll send it to rosslare and wait for the price back from revenue.

Use the UK variant as a guide but not gospel, you can't take anything for granted with them.

projectgtr

colm_mcm wrote: »

I would select ‘no’ for the Japan bit. I’d imagine the VRT would be largely the same as a U.K. one. Might be more complicated proving emissions than on a European car though. Factor in import duty too.

Been talking to people who have brought in some VWs its starting to look like they do use the uk import prices, great if its true but ill tell her its just a guideline.

Neilw wrote: »

Don't forget you will have to pay VAT on the price at 23% too.

As for VRT, as mentioned it should be similar to a UK car.

Jap car could be more expensive to insure, the radio will be in Japanese and the FM frequency will be wrong.
I'm not sure if the car will have an immobiliser either.

Also factor in the cost of a timing chain replacement with the revised chain, they are very prone to stretching the chain and breaking in some cases.

Cheers i have imported a couple before so im aware of the costs involved, but when she said she wanted a VW from japan it threw a curve ball at me. Everything ive imported was Japanese. I didnt know that about those engines, to be honest i dont know much about VW at all, i would prefer if she went with something Japanese.

michellie wrote: »

Op you will have to get document evidence of the Co2, This isn't stated on the jap reg doc.

Also make sure you get the SAD doc from when it comes into the country so you won't have to pay VAT on top of the VRT.

There most likely won't be a STAT Code for that car so it may have to be sent to revenue to get the price back.

The SAD doc is something new to me can you tell me any more?

Lantus wrote: »

Sounds like an extra pain. How much cheaper than the UK imports would it be?

Hard to tell without accurate VRT, but if the market values are correct at auction then there is a bit of a saving there alright. To be honest though she doesnt mind if it ends up costing the same as over here as the standard of imports we have gotten has always been well above what was on sale here in ireland.

5500 wrote: »

It's the same process as with any other jap car so you probably know the ropes already from importing before, except they won't quote you on the day of inspection because it's not on the system as jap , they'll send it to rosslare and wait for the price back from revenue.

Use the UK variant as a guide but not gospel, you can't take anything for granted with them.

Ive put the feelers out on DTD as a couple have brought in GTIs so hopefully ill have some confirmation with them, i think you are right ill just treat the UK prices as guide. Im hoping i can persuade her with something jap but shes not biting :rolleyes: , have you brought in anything lately?

Neilw

A friend of mines sister is selling this one.
Jap import.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-golf-gt-tsi-5dr-automatic-low-mile/17932639

colm_mcm

That looks lovely. Doesn’t the 170 have a bit of a reputation though?
I think half of the appeal of getting a JDM one over a U.K. or Irish one is the condition. Anything I’ve gotten from Japan has been in a different league for the year.

That’s an example of a very good ad IMO.

michellie

projectgtr wrote: »

The SAD doc is something new to me can you tell me any more?

You will get this from customs when it's imported it's a Single Administration Document. If you don't provide this you get charged VAT + VRT at the NCT centre.

colm_mcm

Isn’t VAT payable on import?

projectgtr

colm_mcm wrote: »

That looks lovely. Doesn’t the 170 have a bit of a reputation though?
I think half of the appeal of getting a JDM one over a U.K. or Irish one is the condition. Anything I’ve gotten from Japan has been in a different league for the year.

Thats it in a nutshell , There is just something a bit special about a fresh Japanese import. She is looking at the Mk6 i dont think they do a 170 in that just a 120 and a 140, am i right in thinking that they are just turbo charged? VW is a steep learning curve for me

projectgtr

michellie wrote: »

You will get this from customs when it's imported it's a Single Administration Document. If you don't provide this you get charged VAT + VRT at the NCT centre.

Dont i pay VAT regardless as it is coming from Japan? or does this SAD doc stop that since its a European car?

Neilw

colm_mcm wrote: »

That looks lovely. Doesn’t the 170 have a bit of a reputation though?
I think half of the appeal of getting a JDM one over a U.K. or Irish one is the condition. Anything I’ve gotten from Japan has been in a different league for the year.

That’s an example of a very good ad IMO.

I think it's just the timing chain that gives trouble, there's a revised chain that doesn't stretch now.

colm_mcm

Neilw wrote: »

I think it's just the timing chain that gives trouble, there's a revised chain that doesn't stretch now.

Far as I remember they went through turbos a bit too.

5500

projectgtr wrote: »

Dont i pay VAT regardless as it is coming from Japan? or does this SAD doc stop that since its a European car?

You do, its still coming from outside the EU despite where it was made so it still applies. The SAD document is with the paperwork MCC give you, just shows the vat and duty you paid.

Have a honda stream rsz on the way at the moment, good value in them from Japan as opposed to here. I've seen 2 golfs out of Japan before and they were very clean, but just watch out for anything from northern Japan ie snow country if your buying from auction rather than stocks