Range Rover Evoque

MisterH

Hi ... sorry complete nuubee here .... Im thinking about buying a Ranger Rover Evoke 2016 2.0 , I am completely new to Land Rover , can anyone advise on the the Evoke and their general reputation, heard some horror stories from people who owned Discovery Land Rovers , about 10 years ago. How well is the Evoke rated?

Anjobe

MisterH wrote: »

Hi ... sorry complete nuubee here .... Im thinking about buying a Ranger Rover Evoke 2016 2.0 , I am completely new to Land Rover , can anyone advise on the the Evoke and their general reputation, heard some horror stories from people who owned Discovery Land Rovers , about 10 years ago. How well is the Evoke rated?

Its a nice car but Land Rover still have a poor reputation for reliability - check the What Car 2017 reliablity survey (https://www.whatcar.com/news/reliability-survey-7/). Range Rover Sport is the least reliable new car sold in the UK in the last 3 years!

freddieot

Check the safety rating also...

biko

Moved out from old thread

freddieot

freddieot wrote: »

Check the safety rating also...

Does this actually influence a purchase for some people? I've no idea of the safety rating of any car I've owned nor would I even check it for a car I was buying never mind actually influence the decision.

Del2005

Randall Low Handcuff wrote: »

Does this actually influence a purchase for some people? I've no idea of the safety rating of any car I've owned nor would I even check it for a car I was buying never mind actually influence the decision.

For most people it is a major issue, especially when they start hauling around the next generation.

Del2005

Del2005 wrote: »

For most people it is a major issue, especially when they start hauling around the next generation.

I have my doubts, aside from staying away from small cars (which I suppose is me thinking of safety to a degree) I'd say most people wouldn't let safety rating stop them buying the car they want, wouldn't even enter their heads I reckon.

Look at home many people are driving tiny cars which would be absolutely destroyed in a crash with a bigger car never mind a jeep or bigger.

chicorytip

MisterH wrote:

Hi ... sorry complete nuubee here .... Im thinking about buying a Ranger Rover Evoke 2016 2.0 , I am completely new to Land Rover , can anyone advise on the the Evoke and their general reputation, heard some horror stories from people who owned Discovery Land Rovers , about 10 years ago. How well is the Evoke rated?

In general cars made by Land Rover these days are very reliable. The horror stories are a thing of the past and tended to be exaggerated. Buy the car that you want - if you can afford to! The Evoque would not be my own cup of tea in terms of styling and design but mechanically speaking it should prove to trouble free.

Dravokivich

Randall Low Handcuff wrote: »

I have my doubts, aside from staying away from small cars (which I suppose is me thinking of safety to a degree) I'd say most people wouldn't let safety rating stop them buying the car they want, wouldn't even enter their heads I reckon.

Look at home many people are driving tiny cars which would be absolutely destroyed in a crash with a bigger car never mind a jeep or bigger.

Just shows you don't know what is expected. The car is meant to be destroyed as that means the force dissipates throughout the vehicle.

When the ncap ratings were introduced, the fiesta had among the highest score.

biko

One person's review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSrutdUeE_w

Carwow review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyQ4STAdWJ8

freddieot

Randall Low Handcuff wrote: »

Does this actually influence a purchase for some people? I've no idea of the safety rating of any car I've owned nor would I even check it for a car I was buying never mind actually influence the decision.

Having had the misfortune to be in a car that was involved in a serious accident (1980ish), believe me its something /I always think of. Lucky to get out of it.
The mate is also only alive today because he was in a large SUV - hit by a rock carrying lorry (big quarry thing) that failed to yield at a junction. Fire briage had to peel the jeep from around him.

One of the lads in the office was rear-ended by an E class a few weeks ago on the M1. He was in a Yaris. Guess who ended up in hospital and is still there today.

Those are just my personal or near personal experiences. The safety ratings are always high on my list of features. I could have a very very hot hatch for the price of the SUV I drive. To each their own of course and I doubt many people even look it up but the safety factor is one of the main things I look for in a car.

Zubeneschamali

And you'd be safer. SUVs are twice as likely to roll, and a crash with a roll is 10 times more likely to kill you.

And the SUV can't steer or stop as safely as a hot hatch - laws of physics stuff.

The only upside is the case you mention where you are hit by a larger vehicle.

Dravokivich

Dravokivich wrote: »

Just shows you don't know what is expected. The car is meant to be destroyed as that means the force dissipates throughout the vehicle.

When the ncap ratings were introduced, the fiesta had among the highest score.

When i said destroyed I meant actually destroyed as in the driver would be in bits.

Doesn't matter how good the ncap rating is, hit that fiesta in a landcruiser and it's game over for you in the fiesta.

freddieot

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

And you'd be safer. SUVs are twice as likely to roll, and a crash with a roll is 10 times more likely to kill you.

And the SUV can't steer or stop as safely as a hot hatch - laws of physics stuff.

The only upside is the case you mention where you are hit by a larger vehicle.

It's a lot harder to roll an SUV nowadays than before as they all have anti this and that as standard but they are more likely to roll -agreed , but very dependant on the way the vehicle is driven. A Q7 or an X5 is not an A5 Quattro or a Golf GTI. You have to modify driving style, there is not doubt about that. However, in the majority of real life accidents, driving normally on normal roads rather than sprinting around corners I'd rather be in a decent SUV rather than any hot hatch.

By the way on my route home I often have to overtaken hot hatches and such that are too scared to go over a bump in the road. They can't seem to get up hills in the ice either without making a fuss. I had a piece of a table flip up into the front bumper last year and only left a small scratch on the SUV, reckon it would have derailed anything like a Fiesta ST etc. Brakes are actually better on many SUVs in comparison to cars once they are being driven at the slower speed ranges - physics again, although I concede that at higher speeds a car is usually quicker to stop.

Ideally I'd own one of each and drive the hot car early in the morning at the weekends before most as**oles are awake.

Del2005

Randall Low Handcuff wrote: »

When i said destroyed I meant actually destroyed as in the driver would be in bits.

Doesn't matter how good the ncap rating is, hit that fiesta in a landcruiser and it's game over for you in the fiesta.

The crumble zone in a Land Cruiser is the passenger compartment. The crumble zone in a modern 5 NCAP vehicle is everywhere else. I would rather be in a modern high NCAP unibody vehicle than a ladder chassis vehicle with me being the crumble zone.

https://youtu.be/qBDyeWofcLY

The height will make a difference but the new car will have a stronger cage around the passenger compartment so the 4x4 will still not do as much damage as you think.

freddieot

Del2005 wrote: »

The crumble zone in a Land Cruiser is the passenger compartment. The crumble zone in a modern 5 NCAP vehicle is everywhere else. I would rather be in a modern high NCAP unibody vehicle than a ladder chassis vehicle with me being the crumble zone.

https://youtu.be/qBDyeWofcLY

The height will make a difference but the new car will have a stronger cage around the passenger compartment so the 4x4 will still not do as much damage as you think.

There is a quite a difference in height between the two. In a lot of crashes (off-side and side impact) the LC would hit above the Fiesta chassis line, effectively destroying the passenger cell and anything in it. Physics again...

John_Rambo

Aside from the obvious results when big car hits little car when it all goes tits up at speed your hot hatch is going to handle things a lot better than a SUV. Low profile tyres, hardened suspension, low centre of gravity and buckets of power when needed will stand to you. They stop a lot quicker too.

I have a largish SUV now and I've tempered my road speed a lot because I know if things go wrong it's going to wallow and slew all over the road. Very hard to control, big tyres, soft suspension, high centre of gravity etc...

Dravokivich

Randall Low Handcuff wrote: »

When i said destroyed I meant actually destroyed as in the driver would be in bits.

Doesn't matter how good the ncap rating is, hit that fiesta in a landcruiser and it's game over for you in the fiesta.

The idea of being safer in a bigger vehicle is wrong. I can tell you from experience, having a van crash right into my door over 60kmh. My car took the force of the hit by breaking up in the manner you seem to be fearful of.