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Thinking of quitting my job - Nothing else lined up

  • 07-02-2018 3:31pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭


    Hi guys

    30 male here - work in Sales (10+ years experience)

    Started a new job in October (salary increase, higher bonus structure) - safe to say the worst decision I ever made - grass definitely wasn't greener - while there was a slight salary bump, the bonus structure was not what they said it would be (promised uncapped monthly, turned out to be capped quarterly pay out) - senior management, or two guys I directly deal with, are total snakes (had a recent family bereavement, took the day off - told I would need to work that day back on a weekend or if I could get them a certain amount of sales upon my return i wouldn't have to work the day back- essentially blackmail - I am aware I am not obligated to work the day back at all).

    Add to this the toxic environment I work in - no one is happy, most want out, no incentive to improve or better ourselves, glass ceiling in terms of progression - I am strongly considering pulling the plug at the end of the month and walking away.

    I know my worth, my references are bulletproof, and I'm thoroughly miserable in my role.

    I have enough money saved to cover rent and living expenses for the next few months while I am looking for something else - whether it's in sales or not I don't know, all I know is I need out of this place.

    Am I making a mistake quitting without having anything lined up? (Previous job was in London, so returning there isn't an option)

    Thanks


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    If you can at all stick it out until you have something else guaranteed to work in.apply for everything that suits your qualifications and do the interviews.stick it out lad and switch off the head while you are in there.youd be way better off going from that kip into an other job and keep your savings where they are.you wouldn’t feel dipping into them and be left with nothing and it will look better in an interview if you are already employed.
    Stick it out,switch off the head and just look interested and use every day to plan and get a way out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    If you don't care for the job, maybe look at switching sectors? Reach out to your mates, and see if there are any jobs going. As for interviews, do them in the morning, and goto work afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Always Be Closing


    If you can at all stick it out until you have something else guaranteed to work in.apply for everything that suits your qualifications and do the interviews.stick it out lad and switch off the head while you are in there.youd be way better off going from that kip into an other job and keep your savings where they are.you wouldn’t feel dipping into them and be left with nothing and it will look better in an interview if you are already employed.
    Stick it out,switch off the head and just look interested and use every day to plan and get a way out

    I won't be putting this job down as a reference - I am on great terms with my old boss so the 4 months I've spent here I will say I was with my last job on my CV - cleared it with my old gaffer who is prepared to give me a fantastic reference :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Always Be Closing


    the_syco wrote: »
    If you don't care for the job, maybe look at switching sectors? Reach out to your mates, and see if there are any jobs going. As for interviews, do them in the morning, and goto work afterwards.

    I am considering returning to education full time in the evenings so I would probably stick with sales during the day to fund college- sales has always been good to me and I like to think I'm good at it :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭NinetyTwoTeam


    I swear people in this country know nothing but living in fear, always on about sticking it out, you'll look better if you're in a job. Subservient nonsense. It's a sales job in a company that seems to show contempt for employees, plenty of them about, nothing to hold on to for dear life.

    you are in a good position with a bit of savings and good refs, and it sounds like your mind is made up anyway. Trying to make you work back a family funeral, life's too short to deal with that crap.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,378 ✭✭✭mojesius


    Totally agree with the poster above. Use some of your savings and walk away. Life is too short to be stuck in a job you hate. Take a week or two to yourself once you've quit this job to reset then go on the job hunt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭RoboRat


    I worked in a job I hated for 9 years and it damn near drove me over the edge. This was during the recession and jobs were scarce, especially in my field so I sucked it up.

    In hindsight, I should have left. Your health is your wealth and I should have set up by myself like I wanted to. There are plenty of jobs out there now, and if you're good at sales, you wont be unemployed for too long.

    My biggest regret was working my ar$e off and putting up with the $hit. ironically when I left, they only realised my true worth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    I swear people in this country know nothing but living in fear, always on about sticking it out, you'll look better if you're in a job. Subservient nonsense. It's a sales job in a company that seems to show contempt for employees, plenty of them about, nothing to hold on to for dear life.

    you are in a good position with a bit of savings and good refs, and it sounds like your mind is made up anyway. Trying to make you work back a family funeral, life's too short to deal with that crap.



    If it was me anyway I’d stay put even if I hated the place.id go in there and use every available minute to source another job and p1ss the crowd you hate off while doing so.id do the bare minimum just to keep the job and find something else.at least you’re still pulling a wage then and not spending your savings which are hard saved and it gives you a reason to get up in the morning.
    When you have something you want to do as a career sourced and guaranteed then tell the old employer exactly what you think of the place and to plant the job where the mice won’t get at it especially when you don’t need the reference.
    Boom must be back if some of ye reckon you are better off at home spending savings when ye could be at work.celtic tiger cub mentality with jobs and a wage disposable by some standards. The same crowd would buy a breakfast roll with a fiver and throw the change of coins in the bin along with the receipt.as for the health argument it’s hardly a prison camp with hourly whipping thrown in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭vectorvictor


    Have been here before. My attitude was its better to disconnect from the unhappiness and to see it as easy money while waiting for something better. No reason why the situation should be allowed drain your savings.

    You are there a short amount of time so there should be no major reference impact. Just see it as showing up money. Better for a company with those sort of conditions to be absorbing the cost while you interview rather than your own bank balance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭elbyrneo


    I won't be putting this job down as a reference - I am on great terms with my old boss so the 4 months I've spent here I will say I was with my last job on my CV - cleared it with my old gaffer who is prepared to give me a fantastic reference :)

    Would be a little cautious here. It's quite dishonest and I imagine would be grounds for dismissal in a new job if you were untruthful in your application. Also you may need to provide p45 etc for payroll purposes etc with your previous employer visible...

    Be honest (but without being overly harsh on current employer - just say its not the right fit for you etc.). Provide references you are happy for them to reach out to - perfectly fine not to give a current employer as a reference!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭vectorvictor


    elbyrneo wrote: »
    Would be a little cautious here. It's quite dishonest and I imagine would be grounds for dismissal in a new job if you were untruthful in your application. Also you may need to provide p45 etc for payroll purposes etc with your previous employer visible...

    Be honest (but without being overly harsh on current employer - just say its not the right fit for you etc.). Provide references you are happy for them to reach out to - perfectly fine not to give a current employer as a reference!

    Good advice but dont forget a P45 is easily bypassed by Revenue using P12A which will issue a cert of tax free allowances to a new employer but disclose no details of previous employer or salary. Did this before when I may have slightly overstated previous salary in negotiations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    I quit a job without having another lined up. But I had prepared for that, making sure I could go for a few months until the next. Though people say it is better to have another job lined up, it is actually difficult to spend the proper time doing interviews.

    During my time off I used it to practice and prepare, I also enjoyed the time having the freedom to not have to go to work and the general break. The core thing to remember, and I guess that people naturally fear otherwise, is that leaving job does not mean you never work another one again. I'm sure with the OP's sales skills and experience, there will be a better job out there. There was for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,254 ✭✭✭Esse85


    What area will you look to study in? I know you mentioned your in sales.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Always Be Closing


    Esse85 wrote: »
    What area will you look to study in? I know you mentioned your in sales.

    That's the thing - don't really have a clue.

    I've been doing sales for so long, and don't get me wrong, it's been good to me, but I'm tired. I'm still young, and I just want something else.

    As I said, conceivably, I would do sales for 3 or 4 more years to fund my education, but certainly not in my current company unfortunately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,608 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    That's the thing - don't really have a clue.

    I've been doing sales for so long, and don't get me wrong, it's been good to me, but I'm tired. I'm still young, and I just want something else.

    As I said, conceivably, I would do sales for 3 or 4 more years to fund my education, but certainly not in my current company unfortunately

    I would agree with those that say get a new role before leaving but also with the sentiment of not staying somewhere that you are not happy. doesn't give you an answer I'm afraid.

    I would say though, don't commit to any college course unless you are sure you like the industry. Will burn up your savings and motivation if you do not enjoy the content.

    Could you try to get short term contract or placement work in industries where you might think you'd like a long term career and then use that to guide college choice if you like it. Maybe take 6 months from now until end of summer to use work primarily as a guide to identifying your preferred college options and then start that in September if it suited.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Sales is one of the best industries to be in right now. There are loads of jobs. Some companies suck and others area great, you can always get a bad patch. Move on, find something better. What type of sales are you in? Get into IT.


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