What's the point of Winning Streak.

Mutant z

Does anyone else not see the point in Winning Streak all it seems to be is about spinning a wheel to win some cash there doesn't seem to be any effort put in to it why not a bit of general knowledge now and again. The fact this passes for entertainment on a Saturday evening is beyond me when you look at ITV and BBC and see the likes of The Chase and Pointless it puts RTE to shame when Winning Streak is regarded as one of its flagship shows. The whole show seems drab and boring made even worse with the forever insufferable Marty Whelan that alone would be enough for me to press the remote but RTE somehow regard it as royalty and an institution much like all the rest of the dross shown on that channel, but in reality Winning Streak should have been axed years ago if it was on any other channel it would have been but only RTE could find rubbish like this quality television there's so many decent game and quiz shows out but Winning Streak isn't one of them.

Tom Mann Centuria

It supplements already wealthy retired people's pension and adds to the inheritance of little seen nephews.

Tenigate

General knowledge questions in a gameshow that is completely based on luck?
Why not add a tie-breaker question to the lotto in case 2 people have the same winning numbers?

Tis a shame The Chase and Pointless don't have many questions on how to properly use punctuation.

kneemos

Presumably it's a paid for show or heavily sponsered by the Lotto to flog their cards.
It's a bit parish hall,but a lot of RTE stuff is.

Mutant z

Even shows based on luck have risks involved such as Deal Or No deal you are still at risk of losing money but Winning Streak hasnt got any of those risks and is far too safe another show was Goldenballs where the contestants had to guess which were the cash balls or the killers which if picked out knocked a nought off the total cash figure and at the end of the show the 2 remaining contestants had to decide whether to split it between themselves or steal the whole lot the contestants still had to challenge themselves in order to win cash thats not the case on Winning streak where you just randomly spin a wheel and still win something its incredibly boring you should always have something to lose.

valoren

The only complaint about it for me would be the fact that sometimes the person who spins the wheel can end up with less money than someone who doesn't spin. Should be a minimum 50k if you get to spin it.

kneemos

Mutant z wrote: »

Even shows based on luck have risks involved such as Deal Or No deal you are still at risk of losing money but Winning Streak hasnt got any of those risks and is far too safe another show was Goldenballs where the contestants had to guess which were the cash balls or the killers which if picked out knocked a nought off the total cash figure and at the end of the show the 2 remaining contestants had to decide whether to split it between themselves or steal the whole lot the contestants still had to challenge themselves in order to win cash thats not the case on Winning streak where you just randomly spin a wheel and still win something its incredibly boring you should always have something to lose.

It's not a game show though. More an advertisement.

BorneTobyWilde

Winning Streak is too cheap. Can easily be giving each contestant 50k at least, and the possibility of 1 million. Smallest amount on Wheel should be 50k also.

Tenigate

valoren wrote: »

The only complaint about it for me would be the fact that sometimes the person who spins the wheel can end up with less money than someone who doesn't spin. Should be a minimum 50k if you get to spin it.

They seem to have made it a bit socialist at one stage.. one round had participants sharing the money they won. I thought that was exceptionally poor TV.

I think it really should be the luck of the draw. That's the only appeal to the show, that someone could walk with 3k and someone else 100k. Much better viewing than the minimum prize being €10k, some of the prize money being split, and the person spinning the wheel getting something paltry.

Mutant z

valoren wrote: »

The only complaint about it for me would be the fact that sometimes the person who spins the wheel can end up with less money than someone who doesn't spin. Should be a minimum 50k if you get to spin it.

At least put a bankrupt option on the board so there's the chance you will end on it and blow the whole lot that would make it far more interesting and watchable risk is what entertainment should all be about whats the point otherwise.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Mutant z wrote: »

At least put a bankrupt option on the board so there's the chance you will end on it and blow the whole lot that would make it far more interesting and watchable risk is what entertainment should all be about whats the point otherwise.

Because they have already won the lotto. The tv show determines what they have won

Mutant z

Thats what i loved about goldenballs when at the end when one would be foolish enough to split and the other picked the steal ball and the look of disgust on the contestant who choose to split who ended up with nothing was real entertainment whats the fun in it if every contestant wins something without the fear of losing anything it should be about fooling your opponent as much as anything.

Mutant z

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Because they have already won the lotto. The tv show determines what they have won

Then there seems to be little point in the whole thing doesnt there if its already predetermined.

Won’t someone please think of the hairdressers up and down the country who looove when one of their clients gets on the show. They have to get the hair done, even if they’re only supporting the contestants. And buy a new outfit. And hire a bus to get there. It’s what’s keeping the country afloat.

Sabre0001

Winning Streak is great to watch (but only occasionally). I love seeing Mary* who has just won €15,000 looking sour-faced because the person beside her won three times that and a car

BorneTobyWilde

Most don't win enough to buy a new car, it's a joke. Each should be winning enough to change their lives a tad at least.

Goldenballs was the best. I was always willing them on to steal.

loyatemu

It's part of the Lottery, I think it has to be entirely luck based.

hullaballoo

It is subject to the Gaming and Lotteries Acts. This is why we don't have any TV quiz shows where there is prize money - the definitions in the Acts are too restrictive and the law actually makes it impossible for such shows to be lawful. The nature of such UK gameshow quiz thingies is that the odds are usually weighted against the contestant. Here, the contestant has to have the same odds of winning as the house.

Makes for shyte TV all right but you'd not mind a bit if your name was pulled out of that drum. Even if you do badly, you still come out of it with a decent lump.

Autecher

What's the point of anything?

plodder

hullaballoo wrote: »

It is subject to the Gaming and Lotteries Acts. This is why we don't have any TV quiz shows where there is prize money - the definitions in the Acts are too restrictive and the law actually makes it impossible for such shows to be lawful. The nature of such UK gameshow quiz thingies is that the odds are usually weighted against the contestant. Here, the contestant has to have the same odds of winning as the house.

Makes for shyte TV all right but you'd not mind a bit if your name was pulled out of that drum. Even if you do badly, you still come out of it with a decent lump.

Maybe it amounts to the same thing, but I thought it was because the national lottery is required to NOT be a game of skill, and solely based on chance. Incidentally, Winning Streak (or whatever it was called originally) was devised well before any UK equivalent.

The most interesting element of the show to me always seemed the hordes of family and friends in the audience tripping over each other to get in on the act at the end, to share the joy.

Go Harvey Go

Mutant Z, if you think Winning Streak is pointless, then you have to think Telly Bingo is pointless too.

Neither will be ending any time soon.

Also, this is probably a cliche, but remotes *do* have "off" buttons...

plodder wrote: »

Incidentally, Winning Streak (or whatever it was called originally) was devised well before any UK equivalent.

It's been called Winning Streak right from the start - nearly 30 years ago now. :eek:

I notice that the National Lottery appear to have stopped referring to it as "Europe's longest-running TV game show". Have they finally realised that shows like Des Chiffres et Des Lettres have been running much longer...?

Instead, they're now referring to it as "the most popular Irish TV game show". Well, *that's* correct...

https://www.lottery.ie/scratch-cards/winning-streak

Fr Tod Umptious

Mutant z wrote: »

Does anyone else not see the point in Winning Streak all it seems to be is about spinning a wheel to win some cash there doesn't seem to be any effort put in to it why not a bit of general knowledge now and again. The fact this passes for entertainment on a Saturday evening is beyond me when you look at ITV and BBC and see the likes of The Chase and Pointless it puts RTE to shame when Winning Streak is regarded as one of its flagship shows. The whole show seems drab and boring made even worse with the forever insufferable Marty Whelan that alone would be enough for me to press the remote but RTE somehow regard it as royalty and an institution much like all the rest of the dross shown on that channel, but in reality Winning Streak should have been axed years ago if it was on any other channel it would have been but only RTE could find rubbish like this quality television there's so many decent game and quiz shows out but Winning Streak isn't one of them.

These are completely different shows to Winning Steak.

The BBC also has, or at least it had, a Saturday night lottery show that was probably just as poor as Winning Steak, but I never watched it.

Go Harvey Go

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

The BBC also has, or at least it had, a Saturday night lottery show that was probably just as poor as Winning Steak, but I never watched it.

There were quite a few of these shows - and almost all of them had general knowledge questions in them.

With the exception of Who Dares Wins, they all ended when BBC1 stopped televising the draws at the end of 2016.

Here's a thread I created about these shows:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=102114021

Itssoeasy

Isn't the point of winning streak for local people and business to get a plug on the television ? Or am I being too cynical ?

SeeMoreBut

Can’t understand why the numbers don’t stay out at the end. Give people who haven’t been selected a better chance of getting back in the game.

I could have swarn that people won more as a minimum years ago.

cycle4fun

Lotto is a tax on the stupid.

iseegirls

Has it ever been revealed how many tickets are sent in on a weekly basis to be chosen to be picked out the following week? I know there's a hundred in the drum, bit how many would be left out.

Go Harvey Go

SeeMoreBut wrote: »

Can’t understand why the numbers don’t stay out at the end. Give people who haven’t been selected a better chance of getting back in the game.

Aside from a similar game played when Kathryn Thomas and Aidan Power were the hosts (yes, really) in 2008/9, that's always been the way.

I could have swarn that people won more as a minimum years ago.

Unless I'm mistaken, the minimum prize was €20,000 before the change in ownership of the National Lottery.

I've seen a few contestants go home with less than that amount since - so I guess the minimum prize has been cut back to €10,000.

And I don't think the instances of each amount on the wheel have changed since the Lottery ownership change, either...

18 x €20,000
16 x €22,000
16 x €24,000
14 x €25,000
14 x €30,000
4 x €35,000
4 x €40,000
4 x €50,000
2 x €60,000
2 x €75,000
4 x €100,000
1 x €250,000
1 x €500,000

iseegirls wrote: »

Has it ever been revealed how many tickets are sent in on a weekly basis to be chosen to be picked out the following week? I know there's a hundred in the drum, bit how many would be left out.

I don't think it has been revealed. I assume it's somewhere in the thousands though.

iseegirls

1,000th episode this weekend.

According to TV Now mag, and answering my own question from earlier, a whopping 20,000 scratchcards are sent in every week - with only 100 going into the drum.

Another few stats: Trailing Countdown as the longest running gameshow (28th year)
5,935 players - 168m in total shared
First episode aired on 21st Sep 1990
Just one person has appeared on the show twice - Gerry from Meath got 278,200 in his first go, and 5 years later he won 37,000 in 2017

plodder

cycle4fun wrote: »

Lotto is a tax on the stupid.

I saw a report recently that there are a fixed number of prizes in each scratch card game iteration, and it's possible for all the big prizes to be won, before all the tickets are sold. That has happened recently and people are buying these tickets without knowing they have zero chance of a big prize (I presume the three star game show draw, does continue on though).

dom40

I have watched winning streak for quite a few years now,in the last few years i cant help but notice how much less the players are winning,the dare to share amount has been cut down,all the other games seem to have less amounts,the wheel always lands on around 20 to 30 grand,the show itself is off air every turnabout eg off at christmas about 4 weeks break at halloween,every bank holiday,off air from early May to late September.the players used to get 1000 euro for every wheel reveal but stopped as well,I am sure there is plenty more cutbacks,it just seams to be so mean now,I just watch the start now as i like the craic with some of the players then I just forward to the wheel spin to see them win 22 grand .

MonkstownHoop

cycle4fun wrote: »

Lotto is a tax on the stupid.

What a thoughtful and original post

Go Harvey Go

dom40 wrote: »

I have watched winning streak for quite a few years now,in the last few years i cant help but notice how much less the players are winning,the dare to share amount has been cut down,all the other games seem to have less amounts,the wheel always lands on around 20 to 30 grand,the show itself is off air every turnabout eg off at christmas about 4 weeks break at halloween,every bank holiday,off air from early May to late September.the players used to get 1000 euro for every wheel reveal but stopped as well,I am sure there is plenty more cutbacks,it just seams to be so mean now,I just watch the start now as i like the craic with some of the players then I just forward to the wheel spin to see them win 22 grand .

The Lottery ownership change isn't a coincidence.

testings56

serious question here and apologies if its been answered elsewhere but you think anyone has taken the electric car as a prize as opposed to the cash alternative?

Degag

Years ago a new 250k segment was added every week when it wasn't won and people did win that amount every so often. Now i think they only add a 100k segment every week.

Arghus

Absolutely the worst game show on television. No skill or effort required from the contestants. They just sit there and win money, which is great for them, but it doesn't lend it itself to anything in anyway interesting.

The Crowman

Arghus wrote: »

Absolutely the worst game show on television. No skill or effort required from the contestants. They just sit there and win money, which is great for them, but it doesn't lend it itself to anything in anyway interesting.

Unless you know someone who's on it I really can't see the appeal. When did RTE last have a decent knowledge based quiz show? Quizzes have vanished from the schedules totally. Murphy's Micro Quiz and Where In The World weren't exactly top class productions but at least there was an element of skill involved.

BorneTobyWilde

It's a game of luck, would be stupid to make it a game of knowledge. Need to take home at least 50k each though, and maybe eliminate contestants one by one until there are two left, could then have a luck based strategy game where they face off, winner takes it all, 100k plus the chance to spin the wheel. BOOM! I'd watch that

Muahahaha

testings56 wrote: »

serious question here and apologies if its been answered elsewhere but you think anyone has taken the electric car as a prize as opposed to the cash alternative?

I doubt when any car is offered that many people actually take it over the cash alternative. You might not like the car, the colour, the size or the spec. Plus as soon as you drive it away it has lost 10 or 15% on depreciation almost immediately. Cash is king in that scenario. The cars themselves are offered as prizes because the car brand itself has paid for it to be there as a product placement, it is effectively an ad within the program.

KevinCavan

You would have to pay me €200 to watch that show end to end.

Dr. Bre

For country people to make money. That’s the point off it

lbc2019

The Crowman wrote: »

Unless you know someone who's on it I really can't see the appeal. When did RTE last have a decent knowledge based quiz show? Quizzes have vanished from the schedules totally. Murphy's Micro Quiz and Where In The World weren't exactly top class productions but at least there was an element of skill involved.

There cant be skill in a lottery game- it must be chance

Muahahaha

lbc2019 wrote: »

There cant be skill in a lottery game- it must be chance

Correct. And the reverse is also true for text in competitions that RTE run. It used to be the case that you just texted a number and that was your entry. But because legally that was defined as a game of chance it fell foul of the lottery and gaming acts. So instead they had to make it a game of skill, which is why to enter now you need to answer a quiz question. The answer to the question is obvious to anyone but it still falls into the category of a game of skill as there is a possibility you could get the question wrong.

branie2

To win lots of money

flazio

Advertising revenue.

whisky_galore

A chimp trained to push a button could win on it.

Awful show, like what was posted earlier, unless you know someone on it, what's the point of watching a bunch of strangers making easy money? There's no drama. It's boring.

KevinCavan

It seems like a terribly dated formula, belonging to a few decades ago, a bit like the Rose of Tralee.

CalamariFritti

It's ads in disguise. So much of what RTE does is.

Sam Quentin

It's a prize giving entertainment show, were the people who take part have already won by being selected from a drum after submitting 3 stars, if they are lucky enough to get pulled from the drum at the second stage then they will appear on the TV 'game' show and see what they have won.. it's not a quiz or skills show to see if you can beat the system!? It's a prize giving show with fun along the way...
I know people who love it.. if you're are the jelly or bitter type,.then you may not enjoy it :-))