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New boiler needed

  • 03-02-2018 12:04pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭


    Guys&Gals

    I'm looking for a new gas boiler and flush , Kildare Town. Baxi boiler is dead.

    Which models should I look for.

    Thanks.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭roy rodgers


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Guys&Gals

    I'm looking for a new gas boiler and flush , Kildare Town. Baxi boiler is dead.

    Which models should I look for.

    Thanks.
    Won't go wrong with a Worcester Bosch. Get a filter on it too, it will prolong it's life..

    How many radiators in the house have You?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 739 ✭✭✭Dev84


    Grant vortex condenser is your only man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭roy rodgers


    Dev84 wrote: »
    Grant vortex condenser is your only man.

    It's a gas boiler he has!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Won't go wrong with a Worcester Bosch. Get a filter on it too, it will prolong it's life..

    How many radiators in the house have You?

    8.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 739 ✭✭✭Dev84


    It's a gas boiler he has!


    I need to start reading the posts properly!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭roy rodgers


    ebbsy wrote: »
    8.

    18kw boiler be loads there. I hate seeing boilers over sized..
    Have you heating controls at the moment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    18kw boiler be loads there. I hate seeing boilers over sized..
    Have you heating controls at the moment?

    No. I'm going to need new thermostats. So far one quote of 4k but I've no interest in spending that amount. But I dont want a dud either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭rightjob!


    ebbsy wrote: »
    No. I'm going to need new thermostats. So far one quote of 4k but I've no interest in spending that amount. But I dont want a dud either.

    You cant go wrong with a bosch.

    Can you heat the hot water only using the gas boiler?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    rightjob! wrote: »
    You cant go wrong with a bosch.

    Can you heat the hot water only using the gas boiler?

    No can do it from the tank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭rightjob!


    ebbsy wrote: »
    No can do it from the tank.

    Was just checking if it would be cost effective to go for the grant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭amtc


    I got mine replaced for 1800. Ideal logic. Can pm the guy's details


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    amtc wrote: »
    I got mine replaced for 1800. Ideal logic. Can pm the guy's details

    Would you please. What did you get for that price. Would I need a flush. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Rafloution


    amtc wrote: »
    I got mine replaced for 1800. Ideal logic. Can pm the guy's details

    Pm too please thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭rightjob!


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Would you please. What did you get for that price. Would I need a flush. Thanks.

    You would 100% want a flush with a boiler change over.
    Otherwise it will void the warranty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    When getting quotes to have a new gas boiler fitted make sure to get a couple of different quotes and compare like for like.
    Power flushing is highly recommended and is mentioned in the installation instructions by most manufacturers, depending on how big and dirty the system is, this could take most of a day to do by itself. Would you buy a new car and put old engine oil into it? No you wouldn't, so why put dirty contaminated water into a new boiler!
    Fitting a Magnetic Filter, imo, is a standard, not an option, see Fernox F1 or Adey MagnaClense.
    Condensate Drainage is where I see a lot of short cuts taken, find out where they propose to run the drain pipework. It should Not be left draining across the ground or a roof, or an open pipe poking out through the wall. There Are regulations dictating how this should be done correctly, it must be piped directly into a drainage system, or a proper purpose made soak drain.
    Wiring is another issue. New gas boilers require a permanent live and an auxiliary on / off switching (unless fitted with a built in time clock). Incorrect boiler wiring can cause problems with the boiler and will invalidate warranties.
    Most boilers come with 5, 7 and up to 10 year warranty. It is vitally important to have your paperwork in order for warranties to be valid.
    You Must have a Cert 2 from your RGI for the installation. Some manufacturers require registration for the warranty, make sure its done.
    You must have the boiler correctly serviced each year after installation, with a Cert 3 from your RGI to show it has been done. No Servicing Certs = No Warranty!

    Hope that information is useful to some of you looking to get a new gas boiler fitted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭rightjob!


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    When getting quotes to have a new gas boiler fitted make sure to get a couple of different quotes and compare like for like.
    Power flushing is highly recommended and is mentioned in the installation instructions by most manufacturers, depending on how big and dirty the system is, this could take most of a day to do by itself. Would you buy a new car and put old engine oil into it? No you wouldn't, so why put dirty contaminated water into a new boiler!
    Fitting a Magnetic Filter, imo, is a standard, not an option, see Fernox F1 or Adey MagnaClense.
    Condensate Drainage is where I see a lot of short cuts taken, find out where they propose to run the drain pipework. It should Not be left draining across the ground or a roof, or an open pipe poking out through the wall. There Are regulations dictating how this should be done correctly, it must be piped directly into a drainage system, or a proper purpose made soak drain.
    Wiring is another issue. New gas boilers require a permanent live and an auxiliary on / off switching (unless fitted with a built in time clock). Incorrect boiler wiring can cause problems with the boiler and will invalidate warranties.
    Most boilers come with 5, 7 and up to 10 year warranty. It is vitally important to have your paperwork in order for warranties to be valid.
    You Must have a Cert 2 from your RGI for the installation. Some manufacturers require registration for the warranty, make sure its done.
    You must have the boiler correctly serviced each year after installation, with a Cert 3 from your RGI to show it has been done. No Servicing Certs = No Warranty!

    Hope that information is useful to some of you looking to get a new gas boiler fitted.


    @ K.Flyer bang on with that advice!
    The amount of poor installations on new boiler boilers is shocking!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Rafloution


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    When getting quotes to have a new gas boiler fitted make sure to get a couple of different quotes and compare like for like.
    Power flushing is highly recommended and is mentioned in the installation instructions by most manufacturers, depending on how big and dirty the system is, this could take most of a day to do by itself. Would you buy a new car and put old engine oil into it? No you wouldn't, so why put dirty contaminated water into a new boiler!
    Fitting a Magnetic Filter, imo, is a standard, not an option, see Fernox F1 or Adey MagnaClense.
    Condensate Drainage is where I see a lot of short cuts taken, find out where they propose to run the drain pipework. It should Not be left draining across the ground or a roof, or an open pipe poking out through the wall. There Are regulations dictating how this should be done correctly, it must be piped directly into a drainage system, or a proper purpose made soak drain.
    Wiring is another issue. New gas boilers require a permanent live and an auxiliary on / off switching (unless fitted with a built in time clock). Incorrect boiler wiring can cause problems with the boiler and will invalidate warranties.
    Most boilers come with 5, 7 and up to 10 year warranty. It is vitally important to have your paperwork in order for warranties to be valid.
    You Must have a Cert 2 from your RGI for the installation. Some manufacturers require registration for the warranty, make sure its done.
    You must have the boiler correctly serviced each year after installation, with a Cert 3 from your RGI to show it has been done. No Servicing Certs = No Warranty!

    Hope that information is useful to some of you looking to get a new gas boiler fitted.

    Thanks for this.

    Can I ask how does the normal person know they are getting a power flush as part of a boiler install? In a quote I have they talk of a chemical flush which from advice on here isn't worth a sh1te. Would rather know from people here who know and dont have a vested interest one way or another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Rafloution wrote: »
    Thanks for this.

    Can I ask how does the normal person know they are getting a power flush as part of a boiler install? In a quote I have they talk of a chemical flush which from advice on here isn't worth a sh1te. Would rather know from people here who know and dont have a vested interest one way or another.

    Don’t waste your money on a chemical flush. Ask the installer what kind of flush they are doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭rightjob!


    Rafloution wrote: »
    Thanks for this.

    Can I ask how does the normal person know they are getting a power flush as part of a boiler install? In a quote I have they talk of a chemical flush which from advice on here isn't worth a sh1te. Would rather know from people here who know and dont have a vested interest one way or another.
    Make sure its a powerflush,ask them what type of power flushing machine they use and what cleaner they use too.
    If they have not quoted for a power flush of the system i would avoid that installer.

    I usually show the home owner pictures of the flush if they are not in the house.

    Waste of time not flushing it as it can jst cause you so much problems down the line.

    Also if you can afford it i would go for the bosch boiler too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,009 ✭✭✭micks_address


    18kw boiler be loads there. I hate seeing boilers over sized..
    Have you heating controls at the moment?

    Hi Roy,
    Dropped you a pm
    Thanks,
    Mick


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