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Milk trolleys

  • 01-02-2018 8:38pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭


    Hi,I am thinking of buying one of the milk trolleys for moving milk from the parlor to the calf shed. The 170 litre one from JFC with the pump attachment.Got a price of 1700 Euro for it.Has anyone purchased one of these.I am told that the pump on it has been improved and the front wheels are more robust.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Just an idea.
    So apologies if it's a bit different.
    Is there any way you could rig up a 200 litre plastic barrel on a frame with wheels.
    Then buy a submersible pump from aldi/lidl and then just count out the seconds for the volume from the pump.
    Granted you'd need power in the calf shed.
    The barrel would be free as usually most farms would have them for detergent etc.
    You'd have to buy the parts for the frame and wheels and make alright. But hardly a big lot.
    Then submersible pump less than 50 Euro.
    Hose from pump hardly that much either.

    It's not what you asked but thought I'd throw it out there.

    Edit: those lidl/aldi pumps are faultless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭edward901


    Thanks for your idea. I already have an old 45 gallon drum mounted on a box iron frame with 3 wheels underneath. It is way too heavy to push up the yard when full of milk. That's why i was thinking of upgrading to one of the newer models. 20 Years of pushing milk up the yard and then having to pour milk from a bucket into the teat feeder is enough. Feeding calves is a lot of physical work when you are not set up well enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    edward901 wrote: »
    Thanks for your idea. I already have an old 45 gallon drum mounted on a box iron frame with 3 wheels underneath. It is way too heavy to push up the yard when full of milk. That's why i was thinking of upgrading to one of the newer models. 20 Years of pushing milk up the yard and then having to pour milk from a bucket into the teat feeder is enough. Feeding calves is a lot of physical work when you are not set up well enough.

    Could always pull behind the quad?

    I heard tell of someone feeding over 300 calves with a submersible pump for years now and I thought it was a great idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Neighbour welded brackets to an old tank for forks of loader , drafts out cows to be kept out and milked last pipe put into tank and carries over to calf shed then. Have jfc mixer here for milkreplacer grand job, One with pump costs a fair bit extra so lidl submersible a good idea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭edward901


    The submersible pump from Lidl is a very cheap alternative. Only problem is that you have to plug it in for it to work. An extension cable round the calf shed not a good idea. Always the chance of you tripping over it or maybe a suck calf chewing it.I don't have a quad to pull the trolley. The yard scraper is on the back of the tractor the whole time. I use it for pushing in the silage to the cattle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    Could you run a hose and pump it directly or to a header tank?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Yes bought one last year. Brilliant job but you won't push it across anything other than concrete when it's full.
    She submersible pump isn't a runner they destroy the fats and proteins in the milk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭edward901


    Thanks for all of the suggestions. Has anyone tried attaching a Honda petrol engine to the milk trolley to drive it across the yard with a full milk load in the tank?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    She submersible pump isn't a runner they destroy the fats and proteins in the milk.

    That sounds like a bit of an iffy claim.
    How is the pump on the jfc cart different?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    bought 1 2 years ago ,cost 1100. would not feed a calf without it now. my back will thank me when i retire in a few years time :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭einn32


    leg wax wrote: »
    bought 1 2 years ago ,cost 1100. would not feed a calf without it now. my back will thank me when i retire in a few years time :rolleyes:

    Years of back pain versus €1100. Why are ye so hard on yereselves!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    That sounds like a bit of an iffy claim.
    How is the pump on the jfc cart different?

    The submersible pump sucks it and damages the fats and proteins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭larthehar




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭edward901


    What type of trolley did you get for 1100 Euro.Has it a pump on it or is it the trolley on its own without the add-ons.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,585 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Therewill be a race for the milk kart above. However these trolleys must be 200kgs when full. No matterwhat wheels are under it this cart will be a hard pull. Some sort of Quad trailer.may be a better job. A small 2wd quad should cost sub 1500 euro it will have other applications as well. Pumps are easily sourced off Amazon or eBay. A 12V option would be the best choice. Another option would be a 110v (These are center tapped so only 55v) using a fixed 110v point in shed so lead is 55v.

    2k including quad would give a Rolls Royce solution.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    I got an old kilkenny bulk tank washer which I've put on wheels, works well enough, however the much more simple answer was to keep the calves closer to the parlour ha. Most the later calves are put into the cubicles which are right beside the parlour, when cows out to grass fulltime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    edward901 wrote: »
    What type of trolley did you get for 1100 Euro.Has it a pump on it or is it the trolley on its own without the add-ons.?

    jfc job with pump


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Therewill be a race for the milk kart above. However these trolleys must be 200kgs when full. No matterwhat wheels are under it this cart will be a hard pull. Some sort of Quad trailer.may be a better job. A small 2wd quad should cost sub 1500 euro it will have other applications as well. Pumps are easily sourced off Amazon or eBay. A 12V option would be the best choice. Another option would be a 110v (These are center tapped so only 55v) using a fixed 110v point in shed so lead is 55v.

    2k including quad would give a Rolls Royce solution.

    Not hard push at all. Heater in the shed here and you only have to push it down the passage


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Have a sub pump and hose set up in a barrel and wouldnt dream of pushing milk around the yard.my second lad used to feed up to 80 or so calves last year it was that easy and he was only 10 years old.whether you carry the bucket or push it in a trolley milk is heavy and you d want perfect concrete for that trolley


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    What about a 40gallon from with a tap at the bottom lifted by a skidsteer


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    K.G. wrote: »
    Have a sub pump and hose set up in a barrel and wouldnt dream of pushing milk around the yard.my second lad used to feed up to 80 or so calves last year it was that easy and he was only 10 years old.whether you carry the bucket or push it in a trolley milk is heavy and you d want perfect concrete for that trolley

    And a level yard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭TheFarrier


    The lads on the farm I work on keep the last jeep for field work once it won't pass the doe reasonably any more. Toyota hilux.
    During the calf rearing they keep a plastic water trough in the back with two hoses with taps fitted to the bottom of each chamber.
    Submersible pump in a barrel in the dairy, dump line to the barrel or else mix milk replacer in the barrel.
    Pump to the trough in the jeep.
    Drive to the calf shed and let gravity do the rest once the hoses are pointing the right way and the taps are opened.
    Two flaps made of rubber sheet on the top of the trough tie down to prevent spillage in transit.

    Had photos on the last phone must get more this year.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Fella.near thst rears alot of calves has yhe hot water on a ballcock going into ibc for milk replacer.no waiting around or over filling and spilling water.he comes back throws in his milk replacer and mixes it up .sub pump to calves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭farmertipp


    edward901 wrote: »
    Hi,I am thinking of buying one of the milk trolleys for moving milk from the parlor to the calf shed. The 170 litre one from JFC with the pump attachment.Got a price of 1700 Euro for it.Has anyone purchased one of these.I am told that the pump on it has been improved and the front wheels are more robust.

    That was a good price. I got asked 2k for one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,585 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    OP says he has to push it up the yard. As well his tractor is not available and I imagine that no other machinery is available. In reality he is looking for a complete solution. I imagine that no old jeep is available so he is looking for a total solution. I be afraid after buying the JFC solution it may not work if he has a bit of a gradient up to the shed and maybe roughish concrete. The JFC when full of milk would be nearly 200kgs in weight. That is eight bags of ration or cement.

    I think he needs something to pull the milk cart across the yard. The quad was one option. Another might be to buy a cheap small van like a Berlingo and install the milk container in the back.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭larthehar




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