Is Gardai using APNR for NCT/tax?

accord2001

it seems like gards are using anpr catching car without NCT & tax these days? anyone knows?

biko

It seems this tweet from March 2016 tells us at least tax is detected

ANPR detection Limerick. Tax July '15. Annual rate €1809 euro.
25000kms covered since June 2015 as per NCT disc

https://twitter.com/gardatraffic/status/712001992457986049

bazz26

Some of their fleet are fitted with ANPR.

Lord Nikon

I for one, welcome ANPR. Saves time setting up checkpoints for tax/insurance checks.

tossy

accord2001 wrote: »

it seems like gards are using anpr catching car without NCT & tax these days? anyone knows?

Better get the tax and Insurance sorted on that 01 accord

accord2001

tossy wrote: »

Better get the tax and Insurance sorted on that 01 accord

lol where i live theres a regular road blocks & defo i am not as brave as my neighbour who been drivin around without both for some time, only thing that is valid on his & her car(s)x2 is insurance disc, its been a good while, he just change car after a while........

tabby aspreme

I bought a van recently which had no tax, I met a garda transit van on Rathgar rd about a week after I bought it, and they turned around and stopped me regarding the van not taxed , APNR definitely being used

biko

So from my post with the tweet and the post above it seems tax is definitely scanned with APNR.

fancy pigeon

biko wrote: »

So from my post with the tweet and the post above it seems tax is definitely scanned with APNR.

One of the Isuzu D-Max pickups was kitted out with ANPR, got a demonstration in 2012.

Been around since then

biko

Yeah APNR has been around a while, the question is if and when they scan for tax and NCT.
So tax seems to be scanned for since 2016 at least

punisher5112

ANPR is around since 2007 or not long after.

Plenty of focus,Mondeo and vectras were kitted out.

They tried the insurance but it logged a huge number as having no insurance so they had to stop that as they took cars that turned out to be covered.

It's a difficult system to run as lots drive on extension of insurance so car may not have insurance but the person driving has enough to cover them to drive it.

Tax has been linked a long time and well before 2016.

NCT is another that will show up.

If you see an i30 you're safe as they can't take the equipment as dash is too small.

Most traffic corps or now roads policing units have anpr.

Land cruiser,Avensis, dmax, ranger, focus,Mondeo, vectras, insignia, i40, BMW 530d, X5, Volvo few models, Audi Q7, Forrester but not many if any left these days, I'm sure I've left out a few still going that were fitted from 2007 approx onwards.

McCrack

tabby aspreme wrote: »

I bought a van recently which had no tax, I met a garda transit van on Rathgar rd about a week after I bought it, and they turned around and stopped me regarding the van not taxed , APNR definitely being used

I don't think Paddy wagons are fitted with ANPR

Atlantic Dawn

punisher5112 wrote: »

If you see an i30 you're safe as they can't take the equipment as dash is too small.

Pure gold medal for whoever decided to buy them

georgefalls

I got stopped in January 2014 in Carlow, on a car I'd just bought and was driving it home.

So that there ANPR has been around a good while.

biko

http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=106

All vehicles fitted with ANPR camera systems will be able to identify vehicles as being stolen, untaxed, suspect, cited as connected with terrorist suspects, crime groups, drug trafficking, people trafficking and/or persistent offending.

tcawley29

biko wrote: »

http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=106

How does this work saw if you buy a car off a drug dealer which was known or if the previous owner was a repeat offender?

Does the database reset once a new vlc is issued I wonder

punisher5112

tcawley29 wrote: »

How does this work saw if you buy a car off a drug dealer which was known or if the previous owner was a repeat offender?

Does the database reset once a new vlc is issued I wonder

It would be updated but nothing stopping marker still on it as they could well pretend to sell.

In the UK they would have to put in a request.

tabby aspreme

McCrack wrote: »

I don't think Paddy wagons are fitted with ANPR

The one that stopped me definitely had it, I asked . 171 reg

punisher5112

tabby aspreme wrote: »

The one that stopped me definitely had it, I asked . 171 reg

Was it a pick up?

Or

A fiat van?

mikeecho

accord2001 wrote: »

it seems like gards are using anpr catching car without NCT & tax these days? anyone knows?

They have been doing so, for the past few years.

Limited to some (not all) traffic cars, and certain specialist units.

The regular joe soap won't have to worry about specialised units, they're not looking for tax, nct or insurance... there are bigger things.

GM228

To clarify around 160 cars are currently fitted with ANPR (all of which have speed detection as part of the ANPR).

ANPR systems do check for NCT, ANPR can detect motor tax, but is not currently used for such (since mid 2017) for prosecutions due to legal evidential matters which were flagged by the Attorney General early last year.

New/amended legislation is required to enable use of the ANPR system for motor tax prosecutions.

UnknownSpecies

tcawley29 wrote: »

How does this work saw if you buy a car off a drug dealer which was known or if the previous owner was a repeat offender?

Does the database reset once a new vlc is issued I wonder

It doesn't. I bought a car from someone who had just lost their license (did not know this when buying). I was stopped twice in the first week I had it with ANPR. Must have updated the status on their end after the second time because I haven't been stopped since.

accord2001

GM228 wrote: »

To clarify around 160 cars are currently fitted with ANPR (all of which have speed detection as part of the ANPR).

ANPR systems do check for NCT, ANPR can detect motor tax, but is not currently used for such (since mid 2017) for prosecutions due to legal evidential matters which were flagged by the Attorney General early last year.

New/amended legislation is required to enable use of the ANPR system for motor tax prosecutions.

my neighbour been driving both cars with no tax/ only 1 car has nct for last 1.5yr now, only valid disc is insurance......outside our estate is a Lucan checkpoint hotspot, hes is defo getting away big time...

tabby aspreme

punisher5112 wrote: »

Was it a pick up?

Or

A fiat van?

No , a high roof transit van

corks finest

punisher5112 wrote: »

ANPR is around since 2007 or not long after.

Plenty of focus,Mondeo and vectras were kitted out.

They tried the insurance but it logged a huge number as having no insurance so they had to stop that as they took cars that turned out to be covered.

It's a difficult system to run as lots drive on extension of insurance so car may not have insurance but the person driving has enough to cover them to drive it.

Tax has been linked a long time and well before 2016.

NCT is another that will show up.

If you see an i30 you're safe as they can't take the equipment as dash is too small.

Most traffic corps or now roads policing units have anpr.

Land cruiser,Avensis, dmax, ranger, focus,Mondeo, vectras, insignia, i40, BMW 530d, X5, Volvo few models, Audi Q7, Forrester but not many if any left these days, I'm sure I've left out a few still going that were fitted from 2007 approx onwards.

They've no problems in the UK with it,why here?

punisher5112

corks finest wrote: »

They've no problems in the UK with it,why here?

Costs money they don't want to be seen to have.

ED E

punisher5112 wrote: »

Costs money they don't want to be seen to have.

Or makes work for RPU that'd rather just cruise about between calls.