Importing Audi A6 S-Line

masterboy123

So i have been looking for a 2017 Audi A6 S-line 3 litre engine & found one up for sale now. Here is the link :

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709279705620?advertising-location=at_cars&minimum-badge-engine-size=2.2&advertising-location=at_cars&exclude-writeoff-categories=on&transmission=Automatic&year-from=2017&maximum-mileage=25000&postcode=bt100dj&model=A6%20SALOON&sort=price-asc&page=1&make=AUDI&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New

So it's price is 25,000 pounds. My rough guess is it will cost around 36,000 euros including VRT. Same specs in Ireland would be in the range of 45,000 euros. The dealer is based in England and i am wondering if MotorBrokers on boards are a good choice, and what %age do they charge to sort out VRT, bring the car to my address in Ireland, etc?

And will it be 2 year Audi warranty? Mercedes are giving 2 year warranty in Ireland on almost new Mercedes UK cars.

If someone recently imported car from UK, please share your thoughts and views.

Thanks

bazz26

Motorbrokers have a sponsored sub forum so best ask them yourself what their commission is but expect to be told ring them:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1817#

BTW if your going 3.0 litre you should be looking at the more powerful Quattro version. The fwd version is too nose heavy with the v6 lump and also the fwd A6 has the lower powered version of the 3.0 TDi which is not a huge deal better than the smaller 2.0 TDi.

bazz26

There are also a number of threads in the buying and selling sub forum around experience of importing from the UK:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=176389

masterboy123

Thanks for the link Bazz.

I rented a A6 3.0 TDI in America recently and since then loved it's performance, not quite sure if it was Quattro version. Quattro version will add another 6k€ to my bill, which is going to be out of my budget. Another reason these 3 litre engine car got really comfy leather seats with lumbar adjustable support.
The link i posted is a rear wheel drive, do you think they ain't good enough?

I tried 172 Mazda 6, 2.2 Litre. It's not bad but somewhat lacks pick up when you're already doing 100 kmph and want to go up to 120 kmph, possibly they are not turbo charged engines.

Do you recommend any other car with 3.0 litre engine and €35k range?

bazz26 wrote: »

Motorbrokers have a sponsored sub forum so best ask them yourself what their commission is but expect to be told ring them:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1817#

BTW if your going 3.0 litre you should be looking at the more powerful Quattro version. The fwd version is too nose heavy with the v6 lump and also the fwd A6 has the lower powered version of the 3.0 TDi which is not a huge deal better than the smaller 2.0 TDi.

MarkN

It’s FWD or Quattro with these, not purely RWD. The seats are S-Line seats and could be on any variant of engine if specced so they’re not exclusive to the 3.0TDI. It’s a lot of money to spend if you’re not sure whether the car you drove in the US was Quattro or not. Maybe even ring the company with your old reference and ask. A nose heavy FWD saloon is not going to be a lot of fun.

bazz26

I don't think they sold a fwd A6 in the US.

copacetic

masterboy123 wrote: »

So i have been looking for a 2017 Audi A6 S-line 3 litre engine & found one up for sale now. Here is the link :

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709279705620?advertising-location=at_cars&minimum-badge-engine-size=2.2&advertising-location=at_cars&exclude-writeoff-categories=on&transmission=Automatic&year-from=2017&maximum-mileage=25000&postcode=bt100dj&model=A6%20SALOON&sort=price-asc&page=1&make=AUDI&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New

So it's price is 25,000 pounds. My rough guess is it will cost around 36,000 euros including VRT. Same specs in Ireland would be in the range of 45,000 euros. The dealer is based in England and i am wondering if MotorBrokers on boards are a good choice, and what %age do they charge to sort out VRT, bring the car to my address in Ireland, etc?

And will it be 2 year Audi warranty? Mercedes are giving 2 year warranty in Ireland on almost new Mercedes UK cars.

If someone recently imported car from UK, please share your thoughts and views.

Thanks

I brought one in just before Christmas, tried to use motor brokers but useless, cancelled appts and didn’t bother answering emails. Same as all the other importers really.

Much better off doing it yourself, may as well buy an import from any garage as use brokers.

Audi uk warranty is 3 years or 60,000 miles.

blindside88

If you’re looking to take the hassle out of importing it yourself it’d be worth giving Shane Connolly cars a call. They are very good to deal with and they vrt and deliver included in the price. I bought my wife’s car from them last year and have no complaints. They don’t seem to have what you’re looking for in stock but I’d say give them a call and see what they can do.

http://www.shaneconnollycars.com/

masterboy123

Did you buy the A6 3 litre quattro? And was the VRT roughly in the same price region as using the online VRT calculator?
And how was your experience with the VRT office? I am wondering how many days would i need to take off from work. Someone on boards mentioned that these importers actually cost less when you take into consideration your time off work, etc.

If you can shed some light from your experience, that would be of much help.

copacetic wrote: »

I brought one in just before Christmas, tried to use motor brokers but useless, cancelled appts and didn’t bother answering emails. Same as all the other importers really.

Much better off doing it yourself, may as well buy an import from any garage as use brokers.

Audi uk warranty is 3 years or 60,000 miles.

masterboy123

I have checked the rental car, yes you're right, it was A6 Quattro 2017 auto model. Just love it when the engine got so much power in reserve when you need it on motorways.
I am unsure how my car insurance is going to be effected, currently I am paying €1500 yearly for C200D.

MarkN wrote: »

It’s FWD or Quattro with these, not purely RWD. The seats are S-Line seats and could be on any variant of engine if specced so they’re not exclusive to the 3.0TDI. It’s a lot of money to spend if you’re not sure whether the car you drove in the US was Quattro or not. Maybe even ring the company with your old reference and ask. A nose heavy FWD saloon is not going to be a lot of fun.

MarkN

It'll go up anyway, that's for sure. A lot of companies insure by the engine size. I can insure a brand new Golf R for less per year than it actually costs to insure my 6 year old BMW 640.

copacetic

masterboy123 wrote: »

Did you buy the A6 3 litre quattro? And was the VRT roughly in the same price region as using the online VRT calculator?
And how was your experience with the VRT office? I am wondering how many days would i need to take off from work. Someone on boards mentioned that these importers actually cost less when you take into consideration your time off work, etc.

If you can shed some light from your experience, that would be of much help.

No, would have like to, but much less common and vrt much higher. Went from my large engined Quattro to fwd, not half as nice and quite often spin wheels, but went 2-3 years newer win car instead. One day to get car. Vrt appt took 30 mins, exactly as per online. Appeal currently in process to get a fair bit back.

That someone on boards was talking absolute BS. Importers also are rumoured to appeal your vrt afterward and pocket the refund. Every garage is an importer now, looking to make 1-5k off you.

logie101

I imported a 2014 Audi A6 S-line Avant in December from an Audi Uk main dealer. It’s the 2.0tdi but I am very happy with it. Very refined, comfortable car was not bad performance. Initially I too had been looking at a 3.0tdi Quattro version but the VRT was significantly higher. About 3k more VRT plus much higher insurance it wasn’t worth it.

The car cost about €18,300 to buy and €5,000 VRT. So just under €23,500 isn’t too bad considering Audi North Dublin have an identical car to mine up for sale at €29,995...

I wouldn’t rule out the 2.0tdi version.

Personally I prefer the look of the Avant over the Saloon.

Wailin

Those 18" alloys do the car no favours at all. Is that the single turbo 215hp version? It won't be all that more powerful than the 190hp 2 litre version and economy will be a good deal worse. You'd be better off with the 245hp quattro if you can afford it or just stick to the 2 litre. Lower vrt, tax, better fuel economy etc.

logie101

While the 20 inch wheels look the part they result in a very harsh ride.

SBPhoto

I had those 18" Alloys on the A6 190 SLine i bought last year and changed them recently for the Black Edition 20" alloys
Really hasn't made much difference to the ride comfort, and i don't find them harsh at all. If your getting the 3.0l definitely go for the quartro 245 or 272bhp models. bear in mind that your insurance will rise by about 25 to 30% on the 3.0l and your fuel consumption will be in the region of 35-40mpg where as the 2.0l will return 45-50mpg I had been looking at both before i bought, it was an UK Import bought through a dealer in Waterford. Much more spec than the Irish model.

copacetic

logie101 wrote: »

While the 20 inch wheels look the part they result in a very harsh ride.

I came from 18s on air suspension to 20s on normal and it's not half as bad as I expected. way better than the bmw i had on 19inch run flats.

JoeA3

I think perceived ride comfort varies a lot from person to person, depending on what you're used to on a daily basis. I thought the comfort in my last car - a Golf on 19's was perfectly acceptable. I'm now in a BMW also on 19's, but run flat tyres - and I find the ride in this car much more compliant on bad bumps - maybe even too "compliant" as I do like a firm ride. I'm guessing that the larger car and perhaps softer damping has a lot more influence than the tyres / wheel size.

masterboy123

Ok so it appears i may loose 2-3 grand if i choose importers service.

What do you mean by appeal? Can everyone claim back on VRT paid? And what percent can we expect to get back? Actually i never knew that you can claim some percent back on VRT.

Cheers

copacetic wrote: »

No, would have like to, but much less common and vrt much higher. Went from my large engined Quattro to fwd, not half as nice and quite often spin wheels, but went 2-3 years newer win car instead. One day to get car. Vrt appt took 30 mins, exactly as per online. Appeal currently in process to get a fair bit back.

That someone on boards was talking absolute BS. Importers also are rumoured to appeal your vrt afterward and pocket the refund. Every garage is an importer now, looking to make 1-5k off you.

masterboy123

These are interesting facts and figures.
It looks like I can't afford the quattro version at present, as insurance is going to be 25% higher plus fuel cost for a bigger engine. But i loved the power in quattro. Thinking to even delay my purchase by an year or two, to get financial aspect sorted and eventually get the quattro. I am in a dilemma now.
Will do some more research on this.
Thanks everyone

SBPhoto wrote: »

I had those 18" Alloys on the A6 190 SLine i bought last year and changed them recently for the Black Edition 20" alloys
Really hasn't made much difference to the ride comfort, and i don't find them harsh at all. If your getting the 3.0l definitely go for the quartro 245 or 272bhp models. bear in mind that your insurance will rise by about 25 to 30% on the 3.0l and your fuel consumption will be in the region of 35-40mpg where as the 2.0l will return 45-50mpg I had been looking at both before i bought, it was an UK Import bought through a dealer in Waterford. Much more spec than the Irish model.

fm

Why don't you get a slightly older car to bring the cost down? 2014 or 15? I have a 3.0 diesel v6 and insurance is 660 with 5 years ncb

copacetic

masterboy123 wrote: »

Ok so it appears i may loose 2-3 grand if i choose importers service.

What do you mean by appeal? Can everyone claim back on VRT paid? And what percent can we expect to get back? Actually i never knew that you can claim some percent back on VRT.

Cheers

The Omsp values are generally inflated, if you can show this with examples could save 10-20%. Much easier on a common car than a rare one when you don’t have examples. If that appeal doesn’t work, then next stage is independent appeal.

If the Omsp is inflated you will get refund.

bazz26

I'd wait 6 months or so, there is a brand new A6 due this year so resale values of existing models will drop dramatically.

masterboy123

I would like to get a year old car, so there is still 2 years company warranty left on it. It can be pricey to change things in these cars.

fm wrote: »

Why don't you get a slightly older car to bring the cost down? 2014 or 15? I have a 3.0 diesel v6 and insurance is 660 with 5 years ncb

masterboy123

I see
But i suppose irish counterparts will be definitely expensive so it's difficult to get any money back on German cars especially. Anyone had luck?

copacetic wrote: »

The Omsp values are generally inflated, if you can show this with examples could save 10-20%. Much easier on a common car than a rare one when you don’t have examples. If that appeal doesn’t work, then next stage is independent appeal.

If the Omsp is inflated you will get refund.

madds

bazz26 wrote: »

I'd wait 6 months or so, there is a brand new A6 due this year so resale values of existing models will drop dramatically.

I'm waiting to see what this new A6 model is like before making the plunge myself. I've been searching online for info but can only find the spy shots. Is it a little too early yet for actual pics?

JoeA3

It's Audi, so it's not going to be a radical change. Look at the current new model A4 and increase the proportions a bit. That'll give you a fair idea...

masterboy123

Been doing my research this weekend and found a clause that says if car is less than 6 months old or used less than 6000 km, then an additional charge will be applied on import.
I am wondering if both conditions need to be met or it's either or? For example car is 9 months old but used 4500 km, then an extra charge will be applied?
Cheers

frozenfrozen

Needs to be both over 6000km and over 6 months to not be liable for vat