Nissan Leaf 30kw quick charge xe

Jp1980

Hi was wondering if it is essential to have the navigation system installed in the vehicle to be able to use the Nissan connect website or app to remote control charging settings, climate control and view other things like economy driving etc. I have already signed up for my account and registered my vehicle to my garage but when I go to complete the ownership check it fails every time. Any ideas??? Have been onto customer services in UK and waiting on tech support to call me back

n97 mini

XE is the base model with no remote control.

Quick charge in thread title is confusing as it has nothing to do with the questions in the post.

Jp1980

n97 mini wrote: »

XE is the base model with no remote control.

Quick charge in thread title is confusing as it has nothing to do with the questions in the post.

I was told by the dealer it is the xe here but classified as the visia in the UK. If you look on the Nissan connect website it says that from Nissan connect you can control several basic functions remotely including remote charge starting, battery power remaining, remote climate control etc. I know I would not have the other settings that can be controlled from the navigation system screen etc. When I rang UK customer services in Friday afternoon I described my car as the xe in Ireland and visia in the UK. Surely the Nissan connect customer service personnel would know that a visia model is not supported and tell me as soon as I tell them I do not have sat nav system installed in the vehicle. Surely I would not be down as being called back by technical support if these features won't work on my model.

goz83

I was unable to register my uk import on nissanconnect. Its a Tekna (sve). I had to use the carwings version.

Jp1980

goz83 wrote: »

I was unable to register my uk import on nissanconnect. Its a Tekna (sve). I had to use the carwings version.

You car is it a few years old or imported as new? Just asking as mine a 181 only got it on last Wednesday and would have thought from ready a thread elsewhere which most post come from 2016 that these issues would be resolved by now that others where having. Was told by customer services on phone that it could be a issue with my Brower on my phone not registering my account properly and to try registering using a pc/laptop which should rectify the issue with ownership check process. I did this last night and tried doing the ownership check today on both my phone (which customer service said should work once account setup on pc/ laptop) and again on laptop and both failed to complete the ownership check? I absolutely love the car but being able to set climate control to start using the app or website for 15 minutes would be great as I work nights and finish at different times each night due to workloads and not having to sit waiting 10 mins for Windows to clear off using demister while sitting in the car especially on frosty nights would save me time getting home and also as I can sometimes charge at work battery power as well for journeys

goz83

Mine is a 141. Imported last march. I only ever use the app to check the battery level and have maybe used it twenty times to do that. The novelty wears off quickly....atleast for me. Also the windows would be cleared within a minute or two after getting into car if if was frosty. It won’t be the end of the world if you cant use the app.

Im curious....why did you go for an xe rather than an sv?

cros13

While the Irish XE is equivalent to the UK Visia there are some differences, for example the UK Visia required rapid charging to be specced as an £1k factory option but it was standard on the Irish XE. But neither the UK Visia or Irish XE include the 2G/3G telematics modem for the nissanconnect/carwings system. It also cannot be retrofitted.

The XE is a not a great buy for most drivers, it doesn't for example include the Heat Pump which means 2-5 times the energy consumption in winter for cabin heating. There are good reasons the Visia/XE is a rare spec in Ireland and the UK (for example, of the 79 2017 leafs for sale on autotrader.. not one is a Visia) despite being the base model.

Jp1980

goz83 wrote: »

Mine is a 141. Imported last march. I only ever use the app to check the battery level and have maybe used it twenty times to do that. The novelty wears off quickly....atleast for me. Also the windows would be cleared within a minute or two after getting into car if if was frosty. It won’t be the end of the world if you cant use the app.

Im curious....why did you go for an xe rather than an sv?

It was actually the demo model I drove that I purchased. I actually have a relative who works for the dealership not in sales though. Who confirmed for me it was the last 30kw they had in stock between them and all their sister garages which the sslesman told me the day I took car for test drive. I was in a bit of a predicament to be honest my own car was a 02 Renault and it was not going to pass an nct and tax was out as well. So along with the time constraints not to get fined or taking to court for no nct and tax. I was unable to wait till May for the 40kw to become available as the dealership was sold out till at least then with pre orders, along with could not afford the payments on finance for the difference in price of at least €6000 for the basic model. Which I presume now from reading posts from others will not have the ability to use the app either.

Jp1980

cros13 wrote: »

While the Irish XE is equivalent to the UK Visia there are some differences, for example the UK Visia required rapid charging to be specced as an £1k factory option but it was standard on the Irish XE. But neither the UK Visia or Irish XE include the 2G/3G telematics modem for the nissanconnect/carwings system. It also cannot be retrofitted.

The XE is a not a great buy for most drivers, it doesn't for example include the Heat Pump which means 2-5 times the energy consumption in winter for cabin heating. There are good reasons the Visia/XE is a rare spec in Ireland and the UK (for example, of the 79 2017 leafs for sale on autotrader.. not one is a Visia) despite being the base model.

So what your saying is that i could not just pay the extra €750 as advertised on Nissan webpage in car builder to have the connect system installed

goz83

Jp1980 wrote: »

It was actually the demo model I drove that I purchased. I actually have a relative who works for the dealership not in sales though. Who confirmed for me it was the last 30kw they had in stock between them and all their sister garages which the sslesman told me the day I took car for test drive. I was in a bit of a predicament to be honest my own car was a 02 Renault and it was not going to pass an nct and tax was out as well. So along with the time constraints not to get fined or taking to court for no nct and tax. I was unable to wait till May for the 40kw to become available as the dealership was sold out till at least then with pre orders, along with could not afford the payments on finance for the difference in price of at least €6000 for the basic model. Which I presume now from reading posts from others will not have the ability to use the app either.

I hope I didn't come across as negative. You've got a great little car....app, or no app. Congrats on the purchase.

Mind me asking what deal you got on the car?

I see the predicament you were in. The Bangernomics thread would have been perfect for you. You could have picked up a run around with tax and nct for about 3-500 euro to keep you legally motoring until the new Leaf came around, but spilled milk and all that. As I said earlier, the app is more of a novelty imo. I have never used it to preheat the car.

Jp1980

goz83 wrote: »

I hope I didn't come across as negative. You've got a great little car....app, or no app. Congrats on the purchase.

Mind me asking what deal you got on the car?

I see the predicament you were in. The Bangernomics thread would have been perfect for you. You could have picked up a run around with tax and nct for about 3-500 euro to keep you legally motoring until the new Leaf came around, but spilled milk and all that. As I said earlier, the app is more of a novelty imo. I have never used it to preheat the car.

Yeah it a great car. Honestly even without the app it brilliant. App would be handy for situations like I was in yesterday where I had not set climate control to come on during time car was charging as it misted up interior while charging probably as for some of the time near end of charging I was in the car reading the owners manual ( a light bit of reading a massive book) to see how I could get the most out of the car and tips on all lights warning symbols etc. Like to familiarise myself with them and know meaning before it appears and panicking it a large problem. Also have not gotten my web access card for charging in public )hopefully receive in post this week) so have to ring up to get charging stations turned on and off etc

goz83

Jp1980 wrote: »

Also have not gotten my web access card for charging in public )hopefully receive in post this week) so have to ring up to get charging stations turned on and off etc

Takes about 10 days for the cards to arrive. You can often activate the fast chargers with a bank card, or other rfid card.

ewj1978

you can turn on the heating/blowers etc while charging.. Just hit the power button twice. (Obviously without putting your foot on the brake).

Jp1980

ewj1978 wrote: »

you can turn on the heating/blowers etc while charging.. Just hit the power button twice. (Obviously without putting your foot on the brake).

Ok thanks my interpretation of the owners manual is that with switch turned to "on" position stops charging. What you are saying is that once it not actually started it won't stop the charger but radio and heating will be able to turn on. As I said earlier in the thread am only making my way through the owners manual so probably have not reached the relevant section in reference to charging and having heating on. Thank you

ewj1978

I've often been plugged into a fast charger and had heated seats, blower and radio going.

Be warned though. If its on a slow charger you may use more power than whats coming into the car...

Jp1980

goz83 wrote: »

Takes about 10 days for the cards to arrive. You can often activate the fast chargers with a bank card, or other rfid card.

Ok cool so swip my bank card/ credit card will start the charger and stop it as well. Was told when I registered on phone the other day if I emailed on my utility bill and proof of purchase that they send out the card and it be with me Monday or Tuesday this week. Although the email I received in return does state the next few days. But thanks for the information I will try using my bank card at the charging stations till I get the access card

Jp1980

ewj1978 wrote: »

I've often been plugged into a fast charger and had heated seats, blower and radio going.

Be warned though. If its on a slow charger you may use more power than whats coming into the car...

Ok good to know information I will only do it on the fast charging stations. Thanks

ewj1978

Jp1980 wrote: »

Ok good to know information I will only do it on the fast charging stations. Thanks

If the car has the 6.6kw charger you'll be fine to use any charger. Mines a 3.3kw and I notice it.

Jp1980

ewj1978 wrote: »

If the car has the 6.6kw charger you'll be fine to use any charger. Mines a 3.3kw and I notice it.

Yeah am unsure about which mine is as it a quick charge model and on the display screen only says estimated time to 100% charge. Not sure how to tell if the 6.6kw is mine or the 3.3kw

ewj1978

If there's only one charge time its a 3.3kw.

Jp1980

ewj1978 wrote: »

If there's only one charge time its a 3.3kw.

Good to know that. Thanks very much. I really do appreciate all information I can pick up that other people think is relevant to my car

ewj1978

Have 63000kms on mine so ask away.

Gumbo

goz83 wrote: »

Mine is a 141. Imported last march. I only ever use the app to check the battery level and have maybe used it twenty times to do that. The novelty wears off quickly....atleast for me. Also the windows would be cleared within a minute or two after getting into car if if was frosty. It won’t be the end of the world if you cant use the app.

Im curious....why did you go for an xe rather than an sv?

My UK 141 has full control over the app.
Pre heat etc

I find I use it every day, particularly on the cold mornings, I just preheat and by the time I go out it’s warm and windows defrosted.
No location obviously as that was only in the later cars.

Jp1980

Yeah the quick charge reference is that the dealer told me for insurance purposes it is called a Nissan Leaf 30kw QC (qc standing for quick charge). I would question it only for as I said earlier in the thread my relation works there.

Jp1980

ewj1978 wrote: »

Have 63000kms on mine so ask away.

Yeah well am only learning as I go basically with mine currently have just over 650 km on the clock and reading the owners manual bit by bit. When am on breaks at work and maybe a bit while charging as am currently working 12hr shift nights so am basically home into bed. Up for dinner and into work which is a 45 min drive each way.

Do you find that you have to charge alot during winter and less in summer due to temperatures. Warmer weather car goes further on a single charge than in winter

ewj1978

aye, you'll lose 10-20% range in winter.

goz83

kceire wrote: »

My UK 141 has full control over the app.
Pre heat etc

I find I use it every day, particularly on the cold mornings, I just preheat and by the time I go out it’s warm and windows defrosted.
No location obviously as that was only in the later cars.

Mine is on carwings. I can check battery level and turn on the climate control with the app. That's about it.

I occasionally get a random google maps text to say where I parked the car.

Jp1980

ewj1978 wrote: »

aye, you'll lose 10-20% range in winter.

I will have less range than most as I spend most of time driving with lights turned on. Also with it being colder at night I normally have heat on for at least some of my journey if not all of it. I noticed even with full charge I can turn on the fan but as soon as I active the heat or ac it drops range by min 20km that before I turn on lights at night for driving home

jprboy

Jp1980 wrote: »

I will have less range than most as I spend most of time driving with lights turned on. Also with it being colder at night I normally have heat on for at least some of my journey if not all of it. I noticed even with full charge I can turn on the fan but as soon as I active the heat or ac it drops range by min 20km that before I turn on lights at night for driving home

The lights will make very little difference to the range

Jp1980

goz83 wrote: »

Mine is on carwings. I can check battery level and turn on the climate control with the app. That's about it.

I occasionally get a random google maps text to say where I parked the car.

Well being honest dealer asked if I wanted the navigation system installed and I said no as I have Google maps on my smartphone along with I was gifted a TomTom sat nav a couple of years ago (1 or 2 can't remember). But said as long as I can control heating and charging remotely ( like check how long left till fully charged etc) then I would be happy. So no point in paying the extra €750 for sat nav system. If he had said i needed it in stalled for to be able to access stuff i wanted remotely i would have said i would pay the extra money without hesitating

cros13

Again the XE lacks the efficient heat pump of the SV or SVE so there is an additional reduction in range in winter over the usual that most of us have experienced.

Jp1980

cros13 wrote: »

Again the XE lacks the efficient heat pump of the SV or SVE so there is an additional reduction in range in winter over the usual that most of us have experienced.

Well i have to admit i used to drive my previous car around with heat on full with fan on nearly full blast at all times except maybe on days when it is quite warm outside which as we all know is not too many days in Ireland. So some would say am too fond of my heat. May just get used to not having as much heat now to extend driving range. Also for first while I can't preheat the car as no home charger installed unless I walk the 2km from nearest charge point to home. So it will be public charging on the go in the fast charging stations if I can get them