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Utilisation of losses on rental property

  • 26-01-2018 9:41am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭


    Hi,
    We bought an apartment in 07, lived in it for 3 years and have been renting it out since. We now want to sell it.
    Q) the house is currently ~€100k in negative equity and we're very likely to make a similar size loss on it when we sell. Can I use this losses to off set any potential taxable gains from the sale of some shares I own? (Hoping to sell shares this year that would give rise to a similar size gain)

    Any advice would be super helpful.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Rental losses are offsetable against rental income.

    The loss on sale is offsetable against capital income.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭scheister


    some of the rental loss will not be usable. As it was a ppr for 3 years that part of loss cannot be used. Bought in 07 sold 2018 so roughly 3/11 of the loss will be disallowed. But the balance can be used against the shares


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭Linto


    scheister wrote: »
    some of the rental loss will not be usable. As it was a ppr for 3 years that part of loss cannot be used. Bought in 07 sold 2018 so roughly 3/11 of the loss will be disallowed. But the balance can be used against the shares

    Super helpful, thank you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,039 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Just to note of course, that the mortgage and any negative equity is not relevant when calculating the capital loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Linto wrote: »
    Hi,
    We bought an apartment in 07, lived in it for 3 years and have been renting it out since. We now want to sell it.
    Q) the house is currently ~€100k in negative equity and we're very likely to make a similar size loss on it when we sell. Can I use this losses to off set any potential taxable gains from the sale of some shares I own? (Hoping to sell shares this year that would give rise to a similar size gain)

    Any advice would be super helpful.

    The capital losses can be carried forward and need to be used first, even before your 1,270 annual allowance so maybe drip sell the shares unless u need the mula:

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭Linto


    Geuze wrote: »
    Just to note of course, that the mortgage and any negative equity is not relevant when calculating the capital loss.

    And is there a formula I can use to estimate the capital loss?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Linto wrote: »
    And is there a formula I can use to estimate the capital loss?

    see page 12 here
    https://www.revenue.ie/en/tax-professionals/tdm/income-tax-capital-gains-tax-corporation-tax/part-19/19-07-03.pdf

    it deal with gains but same idea

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



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