net salary after tax

mischascha

Was told I'll get 100e salary a day as a delivery driver. How much would that be after tax. Can't find any web page on the internet that calculate that ehen provided with one day wage, as I don't know how many days a week will I work- but roughly 3-5. single guy 35y.o . My idea is to convince the job giver to make it around 115-120 as handling money and lifting is involved lifting is involved plus mostly its around 10h. cheers M

legin500

€90.50 per day into your hand based on 4 days per week

mischascha

but that's like 10% isn it? how did you calculate that? thanks a mill!!

legin500 wrote: »

€90.50 per day into your hand based on 4 days per week

wiggle16

Per week, in 2018, it should look like this:

The first €664 you earn will be taxed at 20%. Anything after that will be at 40%.

So if you make €500 in a week, 20% of it is tax = €100

Then you have tax credits, which are subtracted from that €100.

Your tax credit should be €63 a week if you have an employer. So €100 less €63 = €37 tax.

Your USC would be around €10 a week, plus PRSI @4% = €20

10 + 20 + 37 = 67

So €67 a week in tax/USC/PRSI.

There's no real point in calculating it per day if you don't know how many days a week you will do, but it would probably work out at like €86.50 in your hand a day.

And €100 a day for being a delivery driver is pretty good.

Good luck with the new job

mischascha

OK thanks! So how long is a 'day' few times I worked 12-16h without even break for lunch, was eating while driving. As I checked therout on google maps its 8,5 hours only to those places and back, but to load the truck took 3 h and another 3 to unload all the stuff and take cash.

wiggle16 wrote: »

Per week, in 2018, it should look like this:

The first €664 you earn will be taxed at 20%. Anything after that will be at 40%.

So if you make €500 in a week, 20% of it is tax = €100

Then you have tax credits, which are subtracted from that €100.

Your tax credit should be €63 a week if you have an employer. So €100 less €63 = €37 tax.

Your USC would be around €10 a week, plus PRSI @4% = €20

10 + 20 + 37 = 67

So €67 a week in tax/USC/PRSI.

There's no real point in calculating it per day if you don't know how many days a week you will do, but it would probably work out at like €86.50 in your hand a day.

And €100 a day for being a delivery driver is pretty good.

Good luck with the new job

rizzee

You'll probably have to agree the hours which determines a day for you with your employer. Obviously if you're working 12-16hrs there should be an element of overtime in play and not to be taken advantage of.

Good luck.

TheBully

12-16 hour days for €100 a day?

wiggle16

mischascha wrote: »

OK thanks! So how long is a 'day' few times I worked 12-16h without even break for lunch, was eating while driving. As I checked therout on google maps its 8,5 hours only to those places and back, but to load the truck took 3 h and another 3 to unload all the stuff and take cash.

You'll have to talk to your employer about what constitutes a "day", but really you should be asking them what your hourly wage/rate is and how many hours a day you'll be working. You'll be able to work it out from that.

mischascha

TheBully wrote: »

12-16 hour days for €100 a day?

no 12-16h is the route(say Donegal and back) - thats how long it takes to get to all the places, unload the truck, collect the money, and come back.

aido79

mischascha wrote: »

no 12-16h is the route(say Donegal and back) - thats how long it takes to get to all the places, unload the truck, collect the money, and come back.

So your hourly rate would be roughly between €6.25 and €8.30. Doesn't sound like a good deal really does it?

punisher5112

Don't forget max hours driving and the break times you legally must take.

mischascha

aido79 wrote: »

So your hourly rate would be roughly between €6.25 and €8.30. Doesn't sound like a good deal really does it?

not at all, plus I didn't add lunch time here.

namenotavailablE

List of available tax calculators:

I've an Excel spreadsheet (uses macros) located at Karl Grabe's website: http://taxcalc.eu/monthlyss
Karl's web app is good for a quick calculation: http://taxcalc.eu
Hookhead's calculator is at http://www.virtualaccountant.ie/Tools/tax2018.jsp
Deloittes: http://services.deloitte.ie/tc/
Taxcalc.ie: http://taxcalc.ie/budget-2018/

Del2005

mischascha wrote: »

not at all, plus I didn't add lunch time here.

Are you driving on a B or C/C1 licence? If C/C1 you are breaking the law with regards to driving hours and breaks and will be in serious trouble when the RSA or Gardai stop you.


If driving on B your employer is placing you, and everyone else at risk, and shouldn't be making you drive so much.

http://www.hsa.ie/eng/Vehicles_at_Work/Driving_for_Work/

SCOOP 64

Driving jobs rarely pay overtime.

Del2005

Del2005 wrote: »

Are you driving on a B or C/C1 licence? If C/C1 you are breaking the law with regards to driving hours and breaks and will be in serious trouble when the RSA or Gardai stop you.


If driving on B your employer is placing you, and everyone else at risk, and shouldn't be making you drive so much.

http://www.hsa.ie/eng/Vehicles_at_Work/Driving_for_Work/

Pointed this out to a previous employer where I was a IT engineer and was told if I didn't like it I could leave. If the HSA did investigate they could simply state it was my choice to leave my house at six to arrive in Cork for nine, work calls around the county scheduled until seven then drive back home so I could be in Donegal the next day for nine in the morning. Didn't seem worried that our cars were tracked to confirm we weren't stopping for lunch etc.

Left as soon as I could. Best of luck with the new Job OP

mischascha

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Driving jobs rarely pay overtime.

that explain why the routes planned by menagement are pushing to the limits, and leaving the driver fully responsible (which I understand)yet the worst problem I see here is the human factor that is also involved in convincing future employees to belive that day of work is 8h not 1 route and it mostly depends on you, your way of work, sklls, zealousness and whatnot. So as I see it the rotation of drivers there is huge due to the fact that one needs to see in practice how long it takes in average to estimate how one will earn, so its about 3weeks for the proper estimation and they are probably OK with the outcome of that type of gentle untracable temporary exploitation.

Del2005

DubInMeath wrote: »

Pointed this out to a previous employer where I was a IT engineer and was told if I didn't like it I could leave. If the HSA did investigate they could simply state it was my choice to leave my house at six to arrive in Cork for nine, work calls around the county scheduled until seven then drive back home so I could be in Donegal the next day for nine in the morning. Didn't seem worried that our cars were tracked to confirm we weren't stopping for lunch etc.

Left as soon as I could. Best of luck with the new Job OP

I know how employers treat employees on the road. But if a person driving for work crashes and its found that they have been forced to do excessive hours then the employer will be in trouble, unfortunately in this country someone will have to die before action will be taken through.

Del2005

Del2005 wrote: »

I know how employers treat employees on the road. But if a person driving for work crashes and its found that they have been forced to do excessive hours then the employer will be in trouble, unfortunately in this country someone will have to die before action will be taken through.

Yeah pretty much how it works all right. Used to get phone calls from my manager asking me what I was doing if stopped for the hour lunch that was in my contract as they had an alert system set up on the trackers for when a car was stopped for more than 30 minutes.
When told it would look bad at my yearly review I mentioned that I had recorded every call he made to me about taking my lunch was an issue, I swear I heard him choke a little.
Heard from one of the high ups who I actually got on with after I left as to why they weren't to worried about an investigation and given this is Ireland and its who you know not what you know I understood them feeling secure.

Ginger83

mischascha wrote: »

no 12-16h is the route(say Donegal and back) - thats how long it takes to get to all the places, unload the truck, collect the money, and come back.

You are going to end up one way......burnt out.

Believe me no job is worth those hours.

Ginger83

DubInMeath wrote: »

Yeah pretty much how it works all right. Used to get phone calls from my manager asking me what I was doing if stopped for the hour lunch that was in my contract as they had an alert system set up on the trackers for when a car was stopped for more than 30 minutes.
When told it would look bad at my yearly review I mentioned that I had recorded every call he made to me about taking my lunch was an issue, I swear I heard him choke a little.
Heard from one of the high ups who I actually got on with after I left as to why they weren't to worried about an investigation and given this is Ireland and its who you know not what you know I understood them feeling secure.

Yep i worked for a waste oil crowd before. They didnt care about hours, weights carried, vehicle condition, breaks,etc. It was do it or leave.

tedpan

I'm guessing that if they said 100euro a day it'll be cash in hand. My dodgy boss paid by the day when I first worked behind a bar twenty odd years ago..

mischascha

DubInMeath wrote: »

Yeah pretty much how it works all right. Used to get phone calls from my manager asking me what I was doing if stopped for the hour lunch that was in my contract as they had an alert system set up on the trackers for when a car was stopped for more than 30 minutes.
When told it would look bad at my yearly review I mentioned that I had recorded every call he made to me about taking my lunch was an issue, I swear I heard him choke a little.
Heard from one of the high ups who I actually got on with after I left as to why they weren't to worried about an investigation and given this is Ireland and its who you know not what you know I understood them feeling secure.

on the bigger picture, as I said its a big rotation of people there. So one needs to see it to belive it, when you strip down all the convinients and technology behind major
aspects of modern live, it all boils down to who is physically paying for that, use to be the merchants who do the buisness, now thanks to technology and transport, everything is click away, and responsibility is pushed by law to other peope

Truckermal

Jesus that's scandalous paying someone those wages, are you working now OP? Truck drivers are very scarce ATM so you will do much better! I do specialised work and do weekend's/unsocial hours but I'm getting nearly twice that!

Del2005

Truckermal wrote: »

Jesus that's scandalous paying someone those wages, are you working now OP? Truck drivers are very scarce ATM so you will do much better! I do specialised work and do weekend's/unsocial hours but I'm getting nearly twice that!

They are not increasing the wages though, they are pushing for non EU visas so they can screw more people. The Journal covered it a few weeks ago and the comments were full of stories similar to the OP.

mischascha

Del2005 wrote: »

They are not increasing the wages though, they are pushing for non EU visas so they can screw more people. The Journal covered it a few weeks ago and the comments were full of stories similar to the OP.

I don't really think they want to screw people, but don't have a choice themselves but that's a different story(on the other hand it might be some variety of Stockholm syndrome :0)

Truckermal

mischascha wrote: »

what about small damage to the car done by me? who's paying? and what if a costumer gives me fake money? in both cases (happens already) I'm paying for that.

Ah lad plenty of jobs without that crap..

Del2005

mischascha wrote: »

I don't really think they want to screw people, but don't have a choice themselves but that's a different story(on the other hand it might be some variety of Stockholm syndrome :0)

They knowingly send drivers out in defective vehicles for 12+ hours a day and they base their quotes on this model. The companies could easily quote the job to give the drivers a decent wage but won't, as the companies they are delivering too won't pay and the race to the bottom is still ongoing by trying to get non EU drivers instead of improving conditions for current drivers.

I bet none of the office staff earn as little as the drivers after the hours are totaled and what responsibilities have they.

_Brian

TheBully wrote: »

12-16 hour days for €100 a day?

This is exactly why delivery drivers take no care and will dump parcels wherever they can get a chance to, why they are impossible to talk to on the phone to arrange a delivery.

mischascha

_Brian wrote: »

This is exactly why delivery drivers take no care and will dump parcels wherever they can get a chance to, why they are impossible to talk to on the phone to arrange a delivery.

ok

Truckermal

Del2005 wrote: »

They knowingly send drivers out in defective vehicles for 12+ hours a day and they base their quotes on this model. The companies could easily quote the job to give the drivers a decent wage but won't, as the companies they are delivering too won't pay and the race to the bottom is still ongoing by trying to get non EU drivers instead of improving conditions for current drivers.

I bet none of the office staff earn as little as the drivers after the hours are totaled and what responsibilities have they.

Yep Nail on the Head!

mischascha

Truckermal wrote: »

Yep Nail on the Head!

ok

mischascha

_Brian wrote: »

This is exactly why delivery drivers take no care and will dump parcels wherever they can get a chance to, why they are impossible to talk to on the phone to arrange a delivery.

its b2b so different story, I've Irish driving licence, any loss or damage is taken from my wage so I can't do that

mischascha

mischascha wrote: »

its b2b so different story, I've Irish driving licence, any loss or damage is taken from my wage so I can't do that[/quote
it says: your normal hours of work are variable each week, as rostered between the hours of 10.45 am. and 7.00 pm. Monday to Sunday with agreed breaks each day. then it says : you need to be flexible regarding start and finish times.... It sounds to me like some bad poetry leaving everything every word for interpretation