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Intermittent loss of RTE 1

  • 21-01-2018 5:08pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭


    Hi, since the end of the summer, I have had intermittent loss of RTE 1 and RTE Junior. The rest of the terrestrial channels are fine.

    My current setup is an aerial and satellite dish to receive saorview and free to air channels. I don't use any box, instead my hisense TV picks up both feeds.

    If anybody could point me in the right direction (or any direction) to rectify the issue I would appreciate it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭MenloPete


    cletus wrote: »
    Hi, since the end of the summer, I have had intermittent loss of RTE 1 and RTE Junior. The rest of the terrestrial channels are fine.

    My current setup is an aerial and satellite dish to receive saorview and free to air channels. I don't use any box, instead my hisense TV picks up both feeds.

    If anybody could point me in the right direction (or any direction) to rectify the issue I would appreciate it

    RTE 1, Junior and Be3 are on the same mux (frequency). You must have a lesser signal quality on that one. Need to check your aerial and connections.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    cletus wrote: »
    Hi, since the end of the summer, I have had intermittent loss of RTE 1 and RTE Junior. The rest of the terrestrial channels are fine ...

    So you haven't checked anything at all, such as condition of cables & connections, both indoors & outdoors, or even something obvious like the aerial having fallen down? (Assuming here outdoors is applicable.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    No, didn't say that. I have checked the connection at the external aerial, it appears fine. I checked the connection at the external diplexer, it seems fine. I checked the connection at the internal diplexer, it also seems fine. The areual is also still on the wall.

    I was wondering if there was a reason that I lost these channels specifically, and for short periods of time (maybe a day at a time)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    MenloPete wrote: »
    RTE 1, Junior and Be3 are on the same mux (frequency). You must have a lesser signal quality on that one. Need to check your aerial and connections.

    Actually, yes be3 goes too, but I wouldn't watch that too often...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    cletus wrote: »
    ... I was wondering if there was a reason that I lost these channels specifically

    I'd seriously doubt it, I'd say the signal for the other mux is poor as well, & I wouldn't be surprised if you've also had trouble with RTE2, TV3, & TG4 at some point.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    Thurston? wrote: »
    I'd seriously doubt it, I'd say the signal for the other mux is poor as well, & I wouldn't be surprised if you've also had trouble with RTE2, TV3, & TG4 at some point.

    I lost all terrestrial channels the other day, but it was the only time, and it was particularly bad weather, so was putting it down to that. When I get a chance I'll post up the signal strengths from the tv


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    cletus wrote: »
    I lost all terrestrial channels the other day, but it was the only time, and it was particularly bad weather, so was putting it down to that. When I get a chance I'll post up the signal strengths from the tv

    'Bad weather' shouldn't be causing problems.

    I'd guess it was a borderline installation to begin with: if you could 'check the connection at the external aerial', it mustn't be mounted very high up, at least? Then something has caused reception to deteriorate maybe just slightly, maybe something external to the system, like a newly created obstruction.

    I wouldn't bother posting signal strength/quality, as it's obviously poor, without looking any further into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭seablue


    Hi,

    I have a similar issue but mine only started a couple of weeks ago. I notice interrupted signal on rte1 and be3.

    Ive checked connections and all looks ok.

    Just posting so you know you are not alone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    The installation was carried out by a company, possibly satellite.ie.

    Its a two story house, with the installation just under the soffit. I just happen to have a ladder long enough to reach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    @thurston: just saw your edit there now. So have you any actual suggestions?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    I suppose it would be worth posting the channel nos. or frequencies you're receiving each mux on, & your general location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    Thurston? wrote: »
    I suppose it would be worth posting the channel nos. or frequencies you're receiving each mux on, & your general location.

    I'll do that as soon as I've the chance. Thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭webpal


    I'm the same, a reboot normally resolves my issue. Think there is an issue judging by this

    https://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2057831289


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    webpal wrote: »
    I'm the same, a reboot normally resolves my issue. Think there is an issue judging by this

    https://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2057831289

    Thanks for that, but I'm actually not with sky, and I have no box at all, so the only option would be to rescan. If I do that when I've no signal, it just returns no channels.

    As an aside, I wonder if the issues experienced by sky are related to both mine and the other poster's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭webpal


    Sorry I misread your opening post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    webpal wrote: »
    Sorry I misread your opening post

    No problem man, thanks for the input anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    OK, I'm in Rathangan, RTE 1 is on channel number 26, RTE 2 is on channel 23,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    cletus wrote: »
    I'm in Rathangan, RTE 1 is on channel number 26, RTE 2 is on channel 23,

    That's Mt. Leinster, so your aerial must be pointing south? If it's actually pointing east, it would be looking for chs. 54 & 58 from Kippure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    Yep, its pointing south. Had a quick look at the saorview website, and Kippure would seem to be recommended as the best transmitter for my area.

    However, all the aerials and satellite disshes in my estate are pointing south too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    cletus wrote: »
    Yep, its pointing south. Had a quick look at the saorview website, and Kippure would seem to be recommended as the best transmitter for my area.

    However, all the aerials and satellite disshes in my estate are pointing south too

    :) Well, all the dishes in the northern hemisphere point south. I wouldn't take the coverage checker as gospel, & anyway there'd be some locations that would have at least 2 transmitters as more or less equal choices, although it could be that the install was done this way more for the convenience of mounting dish & aerial together.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    Thats kinda what i was getting at. Is the aerial pointing this direction because thats where the dish was going?

    If thats the case, and considering im only getting signal strength of 28-34%, would it be beneficial to relocat the aerial, or would a larger/better aerial installed in the same location be of benefit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭bridster007


    Check that your hdmi cable is not touching or v close to the aerial cable going into TV. If you have a weak signal that normally works ok, some interference from the hdmi cable can set it off. Juggle the hdmi cable around a bit.

    Happens me with the BBC2 HD mux from Divis. Slightest movement of cables can set if off .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    Thanks for the tip, I’ll have a look


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    cletus wrote: »
    Thats kinda what i was getting at. Is the aerial pointing this direction because thats where the dish was going?

    If thats the case, and considering im only getting signal strength of 28-34%, would it be beneficial to relocat the aerial, or would a larger/better aerial installed in the same location be of benefit

    To really answer that question, you'd need to know what the installer's signal readings were like &, in the absence of that, your own viewing experience i.e. did it ever work properly. As I think I said in an earlier post, maybe additional buildings have gone up in the aerial's signal path since then, causing an obstruction?

    Anyhow, my solution would be either try Kippure or higher mounting for Mt. L., before I'd try a different aerial.

    Or it could just be a common fault maybe caused by say water ingress.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    Check that your hdmi cable is not touching or v close to the aerial cable going into TV.

    What HDMI cable? OP here has a sat./terr. TV with no separate box, so unless there's something else connected & switched on all the time ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 cool666


    Same thing here. Anyone got any idea. All cables and connectors are perfect. Brand new TV. Don't understand how it would go off and then you do a search and can't be found.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    cool666 wrote: »
    Same thing here. Anyone got any idea. All cables and connectors are perfect. Brand new TV. Don't understand how it would go off and then you do a search and can't be found.

    Well, assuming the bolded part is still correct, & connections weren't messed up when the new TV was installed, then most likely cause IME, is poor aerial installation.

    Doesn't matter if the job is done perfectly within spec. if the original spec. doesn't allow for proper siting of the aerial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,620 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    I used to get a perfect signal from Three Rock (ch. 30 & 33) off an indoor aerial in South Dublin. Since about 6 months ago, I can't get RTE1 TV any longer or at least most of the time it's just not there. The signal on channel 33 comes and goes for no apparent reason. Perfect picture on RTE2, TV3 and 3e and I can see all of the radio stations.

    So you don't need a cable fault or interference from a HDMI cable (:confused:) to lose a MUX.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    coylemj wrote: »
    I used to get a perfect signal from Three Rock (ch. 30 & 33) off an indoor aerial in South Dublin. Since about 6 months ago, I can't get RTE1 TV any longer or at least most of the time it's just not there. The signal on channel 33 comes and goes for no apparent reason. Perfect picture on RTE2, TV3 and 3e and I can see all of the radio stations.

    So you don't need a cable fault or interference from a HDMI cable (:confused:) to lose a MUX.

    HDMI interference can be a problem.

    I'm pretty sure I'd be right in saying that you wouldn't have lost channels if you weren't relying on a set-top aerial.


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