Clamping

Billbo2015

I got clamped before Christmas left it and came back to someone takinh clamps off cars on the road and mine as his car was clamped also , I didn't ring clamping company just left it as who in there right mind is going to pay for a clamp that's gone ?? returned to my car today to find it be towed away they charged me €500 for clamp removal , €240 for towing away , had to pay this right away as it goes up by the day and not allowed my car back for two day .. I explained that this wasn't me that took the clamp off and what person in there right mind would pay for a clamp that not on there car should I appeal this ? As if they looked back on cctv they would see this wasn't me and the person that took the rest on the road off ?

Tenigate

Cool story

btkm8unsl0w5r4

So assuming that this happened....

Your car was parked improperly......you came back to it clamped but clamping Batman was removing clamps and cut your off....grand says you, thats sorted, no need to move my car or make the parking valid in any way now and you left it where it was....you come back some time later and they amazingly have towed your car away ....

You had your chance to escape without paying a fee and you missed it, now you are going to have to pay up now.

michellie

So you saw someone cutting off the clamp from your car but didn't make any form of verbal contact with that person or move the car? Hmmm

TheBully

Nana nana nana nana nana clampman

Kevin!

Was it a private clamping company or county council?

Billbo2015

Kevin! wrote: »

Was it a private clamping company or county council?

Yeah DCC

Kevin!

Billbo2015 wrote: »

Yeah DCC

I think the best thing that you could hope for is to negotiate paying for the two times it was clamped rather than the new fee. Whilst unlikely, unless they have proof they can't really claim that it wasn't someone else who removed the clamp the last time.

Billbo2015

Kevin! wrote: »

I think the best thing that you could hope for is to negotiate paying for the two times it was clamped rather than the new fee. Whilst unlikely, unless they have proof they can't really claim that it wasn't someone else who removed the clamp the last time.

No they won't take the car out of the pound without the fee of 740 Euro being paid but the girl I was talking to from DCC said it happens a lot people taking the clamps off altogether whilst taking there own but you can appeal the €500 Euro for the clamp removal but don't know if it would be worth the hassle but if they looked back on cctv they would see it wasn't me

Billbo2015

Kevin! wrote: »

I think the best thing that you could hope for is to negotiate paying for the two times it was clamped rather than the new fee. Whilst unlikely, unless they have proof they can't really claim that it wasn't someone else who removed the clamp the last time.

And I paid as it goes up €80 a day and there not letting me collect it till tommorow morning but just wondering does anyone know if it be worth appealing just for the clamp

OldmanMondeo

Billbo2015 wrote: »

No they won't take the car out of the pound without the fee of 740 Euro being paid but the girl I was talking to from DCC said it happens a lot people taking the clamps off altogether whilst taking there own but you can appeal the €500 Euro for the clamp removal but don't know if it would be worth the hassle but if they looked back on cctv they would see it wasn't me

But would CCTV see you talking to the guy who removed the clamp? They do take pictures of the car clamped to prove it was clamped.

Removing private operators clamps, I would now agree with 100%, since I have been clamped, but with DCC not a chance I would remove it, they have the powers to bring you to court. Think your going to have to pay it up.

Guy:Incognito

OldmanMondeo wrote: »

But would CCTV see you talking to the guy who removed the clamp? They do take pictures of the car clamped to prove it was clamped.

Removing private operators clamps, I would now agree with 100%, since I have been clamped, but with DCC not a chance I would remove it, they have the powers to bring you to court. Think your going to have to pay it up.

Why is it ok to take the piss with parking on private land but not council in your opinion?

antodeco

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Why is it ok to take the piss with parking on private land but not council in your opinion?

It's not illegal to remove a private clamp. It is a council clamp.

Same story as breaking the "speed limit" on private land versus on a public road. One is illegal, the other is not.

Anyway, OP did you leave your car in the same place after the clamp was removed? And was it illegally parked, or parking just not paid?

OldmanMondeo

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Why is it ok to take the piss with parking on private land but not council in your opinion?

Did I say anything about taking the piss? Park properly and clamping is not an issue.

I was clamped by private operators, no clear signage and the ticket machine was hidden away near bike shed, blocked by a parked car!!! If I had the means, the clamp would removed FOC,since under data protection private clampers would have had difficulty in chasing me down. DCC and any local council can access your details, since they are responsible motor tax... I ended up sucking it up and paying. OP chanced his arm with DCC and got caught, they will probably end up paying the release fees.

Guy:Incognito

antodeco wrote: »

It's not illegal to remove a private clamp. It is a council clamp.

Same story as breaking the "speed limit" on private land versus on a public road. One is illegal, the other is not.

Anyway, OP did you leave your car in the same place after the clamp was removed? And was it illegally parked, or parking just not paid?

I never mentioned the law.
It's common courtesy to play by the owners rules if you're on their property.

Billbo2015

OldmanMondeo wrote: »

Did I say anything about taking the piss? Park properly and clamping is not an issue.

I was clamped by private operators, no clear signage and the ticket machine was hidden away near bike shed, blocked by a parked car!!! If I had the means, the clamp would removed FOC,since under data protection private clampers would have had difficulty in chasing me down. DCC and any local council can access your details, since they are responsible motor tax... I ended up sucking it up and paying. OP chanced his arm with DCC and got caught, they will probably end up paying the release fees.

I did pay all fees was just curious to know if anyone knows if there would be a point in appealing it as the girl said on the phone who I made the payment to to appeal it to DCC as I wasn't the one who cut the clamp off ? I don't mind paying all clamp fees but was curious to know if there was any success in appeals to the DCC reguardimg clamping

Billbo2015

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I never mentioned the law.
It's common courtesy to play by the owners rules if you're on their property.

I was an inch away from facing a continuous white line according to the clamper

Dr_serious2

It surprises me how many people stand up for clamping.

Last year I was walking past Supermacs in Newcastle, Galway City. Anyone familiar with that part of the world would know that there is very little parking outside it. Anyway, it was a Friday evening and I noticed a youngish woman crying with three small children at her side. Her car had been clamped and she was begging and pleading with the burly male clamper that she was only going into supermacs for a Friday evening treat for her children and that she had only been gone for five minutes. He repeated 'not my problem, not my problem, not my problem,' a number of times.

Yes, he was within his rights to clamp her as I will shortly be reminded. But sometimes you just have to shake your head.

Guy:Incognito

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

It surprises me how many people stand up for clamping.

Last year I was walking past Supermacs in Newcastle, Galway City. Anyone familiar with that part of the world would know that there is very little parking outside it. Anyway, it was a Friday evening and I noticed a youngish woman crying with three small children at her side. Her car had been clamped and she was begging and pleading with the burly male clamper that she was only going into supermacs for a Friday evening treat for her children and that she had only been gone for five minutes. He repeated 'not my problem, not my problem, not my problem,' a number of times.


Yes, he was within his rights to clamp her as I will shortly be reminded. But sometimes you just have to shake your head.

I see you've gone for the "poor defenceless woman/ burley evil man " angle , with a side order of "won't somebody think of the children".
Should only men be clamped ? Only men with no kids?

What stopped her parking properly for the 5 minutes?

Edit. I don't know the area so had a look on street view. From what I can see it's all yellow boxes and double yellow lines. Anyone with an ounce of cop on knows you're clearly not meant to park there and are completely taking the piss if you do. The " I'm only abandoning my car here for 5 mins" crowd are the exact people that have places clogged up the whole time. A steady stream of them means that collectively, there may aswell be a permanent parking spot there. Hence the need for enforcement.

conor2469

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I see you've gone for the "poor defenceless woman/ burley evil man " angle , with a side order of "won't somebody think of the children".
Should only men be clamped ? Only men with no kids?
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it was a Friday evening and I noticed a burly male crying with three small children at his side. His car had been clamped and he was begging and pleading with the youngish woman clamper that he was only going into supermacs for a Friday evening treat for his children and that he had only been gone for five minutes. She repeated 'not my problem, not my problem, not my problem,' a number of times.

:pac::D

kingtut

It's always only 5 minutes :rolleyes:

markpb

Dr_serious2 wrote: »

It surprises me how many people stand up for clamping.

I used to live in an apartment block estate. We had clamping for a few years but decided to save money by cancelling the contract. Within weeks people had starting parking on footpaths, parking on corners, parking on double yellow lines and the usual shenanigans. The straw that broke the camels back was when a fire engine responded to a medical emergency but couldn't get to the apartment because two arseholes had parked on the corner so it couldn't fit round. When the paramedics tries to get the patient out on a stretcher, another arsehole had parked blocking the footpath so they had to squeeze between two cars. DFB had stern words with the management company, clamping was re-instated and parking went back to normal.

Moral of the story: clampers might be evil but they're a necessary evil because people park like arseholes when they think they can get away with it.

jimbis

I think the big problem with new housing estates/apartment blocks is the lack of parking spaces in the first place. It's like a mad max situation in the evenings fighting over who gets home earliest to get the parking spaces.
Lots of dwellings have more than 2 vehicles attached to them and they have to park somewhere.

Totally disagree with ignorant parking blocking people/emergency services by the way. Incase that sounds like I'm approving that sort of thing.

markpb

jimbis wrote: »

I think the big problem with new housing estates/apartment blocks is the lack of parking spaces in the first place.

You might be right in general but in my estate, there was a decent amount of space in the surface and three huge underground car parks which were never full or even busy. People just preferred to park right outside their door, even if that meant parking like a dick.

Guy:Incognito

markpb wrote: »

You might be right in general but in my estate, there was a decent amount of space in the surface and three huge underground car parks which were never full or even busy. People just preferred to park right outside their door, even if that meant parking like a dick.

Its the same everywhere, people are *****. See every Lidl and Aldi. Half empty car park and cars abandoned in the yellow box , the path, disable spaces etc near the door.