Pothole season

Henry Ford III

Loads appearing on my commute. Must be the conditions of cold and rain maybe?

Beware Lahinch Road out of Ennis going uphill just past Whelans Quarry.

turbbo

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Loads appearing on my commute. Must be the conditions of cold and rain maybe?

Beware Lahinch Road out of Ennis going uphill just past Whelans Quarry.

Lack of road drainage - councils just keep refilling the same holes - talk about a waste.

Cantona's Collars

turbbo wrote: »

Lack of road drainage - councils just keep refilling the same holes - talk about a waste.

Drove down a small road near my place,the council filled holes with delay set tar. It's ok for paths or an emergency when a hole needs temporary filling. Two days later the tar was reduced to chippings along the roadside and the holes were back. A waste of time and OUR money.

turbbo

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Drove down a small road near my place,the council filled holes with delay set tar. It's ok for paths or an emergency when a hole needs temporary filling. Two days later the tar was reduced to chippings along the roadside and the holes were back. A waste of time and OUR money.

Same thing on the road outside my house - in fairness it's a rat run - If i'm outside and listen to the traffic the cars all hit the same hole - it's filled every week I was thinking recently it would be fun to do a little web log with dates and pictures and show the waste that goes on.
day 1 - hole filled
day 6 - hole back with loose chippings everywhere on the road and fence - day day 8 - (reset) hole filled again....and the cycle continues....

bazz26

If they fixed them properly to begin with then maybe that will help. Filling a pothole with gravel and flattening it is not fixing a pothole. A day or two of rain and a few cars passing over it just drags all the gravel out again so back to square one.

turbbo

bazz26 wrote: »

If they fixed them properly to begin with then maybe that will help. Filling a pothole with gravel and flattening it is not fixing a pothole. A day or two of rain and a few cars passing over it just drags all the gravel out again so back to square one.

I wonder who in the council thinks that it should be done the way?
Guess it's the same old Irish nonsense of nobody being accountable.
They talk about the environment - surely this is having a massive environmental as well as monetary impact.
Main reason for potholes is surface water and I won't say poor drainage more NO drainage along our roads.

Any time I drive up in the North I notice how good they keep their secondary roads - mainly because they use drainage - no big mystery.

boardsuser1

Plenty of sink holes around my way.

A nearby hill is breaking up in places as well due to the flow of water.

listermint

on the topic, what is the numero uno way of doing it. i mean top drawer (without doing the entire road resurface

turbbo

listermint wrote: »

on the topic, what is the numero uno way of doing it. i mean top drawer (without doing the entire road resurface

Build drainage first then build road. Simples.

Ubbquittious

Pothole season runs from the first day of the year to the last.

JoeA3

Loads around me too. It's all down to the incessantly miserable weather coupled with the "shovel of stones and tar" approach to "fixing" them.

DaveyDave

There's one or two bad ones on the back roads coming home from work. To be fair I haven't bothered reporting them yet, must note the location to report it. They did fill one on my commute to work...

Is the funding for potholes the same for speed bumps? Because the council have put a lot of unnecessary speed bumps around where I live and there's plenty of bad pot holes around here. They're also doing landscaping of roundabouts that didn't seem to be an issue at all.

Some road works were done a few months ago and the new surface is like a rumble strip to the point where people drive half in the bus lane. It's not like they're stuck for work, I don't understand why they half ass everything only to have to fix it again when there's other pot holes on the same roads that haven't been fixed.

If it ain't broke they fix it. If it's broke they don't.

turbbo

DaveyDave wrote: »

There's one or two bad ones on the back roads coming home from work. To be fair I haven't bothered reporting them yet, must note the location to report it. They did fill one on my commute to work...

Is the funding for potholes the same for speed bumps? Because the council have put a lot of unnecessary speed bumps around where I live and there's plenty of bad pot holes around here. They're also doing landscaping of roundabouts that didn't seem to be an issue at all.

Some road works were done a few months ago and the new surface is like a rumble strip to the point where people drive half in the bus lane. It's not like they're stuck for work, I don't understand why they half ass everything only to have to fix it again when there's other pot holes on the same roads that haven't been fixed.

If it ain't broke they fix it. If it's broke they don't.

The landscaping of roundabouts is a head melter! Surely they should be just flat and not block the motorists view?? - one got landscaped near me last year and I was like brilliant they removed all the bushes blocking the view and just put grass on it - when I came back from holidays they had a load of trees planted in it? WTF? makes me :mad:

turbbo

JoeA3 wrote: »

Loads around me too. It's all down to the incessantly miserable weather coupled with the "shovel of stones and tar" approach to "fixing" them.

Same miserable weather they have in the north, even worse I would suggest in parts.

ianobrien

I have a pet "theory" as to why the pot holes form on our roads. It's down to the way that the road surface is finished in that the final tar & chip layer leaves the stone slightly proud of the surface. This is done to leave the water drain between the stones, meaning better wet grip (you are gripping the stones, not on the water layer). However, this water next to the stone then freezes and expands, moving the stones. Then water can get under them, freeze, expand, move them and rinse & repeat. Once the surface has broken, the water just washes out the underlying road structure, creating a proper sink-hole of a pothole.

Throwing a bucket of stone into a wet hole is no good as it simply gets washed out. Then, the water fills the craters meaning you can't see the huge hole.

The roads are so bad that when I'm driving, if I see gravel near a puddle, there is more than likely a massive crater under the water. So, I'll slow down and maneuver to avoid. If that means going to the other side of the road I will. If the other side of the road is not clear, I'll either stop and wait or go through at less than 20kph. Sorry but I don't care how mad you are behind me, I won't risk breaking something. If the road is clear, simply overtake (and I'll help by pulling over if I can).

As for the simply daft idea of planting stuff on roundabouts, look at the way that they are done on the continent. There is nothing to block your view. The link is to the first roundabout you meet off the ferry. Any signs are back, all islands concrete/paving and a view across the roundabout https://www.google.ie/maps/@49.6358779,-1.5753912,3a,75y,263.6h,84.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZbiDNMQfgdsqD5jlOUFGTw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

the_pen_turner

its the cold weather combined with wet roads that cant drain. this plays havoc with our poorly built and maintained roads.
around here they go out with that machine that scutters tar towards a hole . they usually do it on the wettest of days. I kid you not they were out today after the snow over night . total waste


if they fixed one pothole every day properly we would have virtually no potholes after a while.
cut out a square,
dig out the hole properly and undercut the tarmac
dry out the hole
put in proper tarmac and whack it in properly
then do the seams with melted tar.

what clown is in charge that can justify doing such a poor job

i57dwun4yb1pt8

this country is run and maintained by Morons

FACT

CJhaughey

Picked up a nice windscreen chip today on the way home, the council had been out and helpfully scattered liberal amounts of chippings over the potholes, in the current weather they may as well have been trying to use porridge oats.
Truck in front of me picked up a stone and its made a nice chip in my screen.
Its pitiful the way that resources are wasted on poor patching jobs like this, it isn't an efficient use of tax monies.