New Cork to Spain Ferry Link starting April 2018!

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According to Independent.ie online today the first ever direct ferry route has just been announced from Ireland to Spain

The new route will depart from the Port of Cork, Ireland to Santander, Spain. Santander is a short drive from Bilbao and San Sebastian, offering motorists willing to undertake the long journey a direct drop-off in 'green Spain'.

Brittany Ferries has announced what it says is the first ever direct ferry link between Ireland and Spain, with tickets for sale by the end of January.

The company will operate two direct return sailings weekly from Cork to Santander in Northern Spain, it says, starting from the end of April.

Until now, travellers wishing to take their car or a ferry to Spain had to travel via the UK or France. In 2014, LD Lines launched a connection from Rosslare to Spain (Gijón) via a 'landbridge' service in St Nazaire, but this ran only for a brief period.

A ship will be chartered to serve the route, based on the économie model it already runs on services from the UK to France and Spain. The ship called "The Connemara" will carry around 500 passengers with space for 195 cars and the company expects a 50/50 split between passengers and freight carried.

As a result of the new service it will also deliver an additional weekly return sailing from Cork to Roscoff, a route that started 40 years ago, on St. Patrick's Day in 1978.

The option for freight carriers to bypass the UK land bridge will be seen as very attractive, as Brexit uncertainty continues," added Captain Michael McCarthy, Commercial Manager at the Port of Cork, which welcomed the service.

Full article from Independent.ie online
Source:
https://www.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/first-ever-direct-ferry-route-announced-from-ireland-to-spain-36493404.html

Louche Lad

Starting in April, two sailings a week, bookable from later this month, from Brittany Ferries:

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/new-ferry-route-to-link-cork-and-spain-from-april-1.3357346

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One of Brittany Ferries main competitors in Ireland is Irish Ferries owned by ICG. In recent years, Irish Ferries introduced a similar no-frills economy option on the vessel "Epsilon" for those who departed Dublin Port for Cherbourg in France which was unusual at that time as previously passenger ferries to/from Ireland and France tended to only depart from either Rosslare Europort or from Port of Cork's Ringaskiddy Ferry Terminal. The Epsilon also operates on the Dublin Port to Holyhead route as well. Brittany Ferries will also use it's chartered vessel (i.e.) the "Connemara" to add further capacity on it's existing Cork to Roscoff route during the forthcoming 2018 season.

This is not the first time that Brittany Ferries expanded services from it's Irish base out of the Port of Cork. Back in the early-mid 1990's they chartered another vessel called the "Duchess Anne" to service a Cork to St. Malo link and that ship may have also provided additional capacity on the former Cork to Swansea ferry route when it was operated by Swansea Cork Car Ferries Ltd. I understand the "Duchess Anne" was previously known as the "Connacht" and was under the former B+I Line livery. The ship was originally built at the former Verolme Dockyard in Rushbrooke near Cobh in Co. Cork.

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Louche Lad wrote: »

Starting in April, two sailings a week, bookable from later this month, from Brittany Ferries:

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/new-ferry-route-to-link-cork-and-spain-from-april-1.3357346

26 hours crossing time could be a challenge as it will not be a cruise ship.
I recall it taking about 21 hours on a crossing from Le Havre, France to Rosslare, Ireland on the "Saint Killian II" with Irish Continental Line (ICG) in Oct/Nov. 1985. No direct passenger ferry services between Ireland and Le Havre, St. Malo, Swansea to my knowledge anymore but I suppose we have a lot more by way of air route options with the airlines these days although; tickets can be expensive if you cannot book well in advance and then there's all the extra charges for things like baggage, seat allocation, priority boarding, meals, Online check-in etc;

roundymac

AwaitYourReply wrote: »

One of Brittany Ferries main competitors in Ireland is Irish Ferries owned by ICG. In recent years, Irish Ferries introduced a similar no-frills economy option on the vessel "Epsilon" for those who departed Dublin Port for Cherbourg in France which was unusual at that time as previously passenger ferries to/from Ireland and France tended to only depart from either Rosslare Europort or from Port of Cork's Ringaskiddy Ferry Terminal. The Epsilon also operates on the Dublin Port to Holyhead route as well. Brittany Ferries will also use it's chartered vessel (i.e.) the "Connemara" to add further capacity on it's existing Cork to Roscoff route during the forthcoming 2018 season.

This is not the first time that Brittany Ferries expanded services from it's Irish base out of the Port of Cork. Back in the early-mid 1990's they chartered another vessel called the "Duchess Anne" to service a Cork to St. Malo link and that ship may have also provided additional capacity on the former Cork to Swansea ferry route when it was operated by Swansea Cork Car Ferries Ltd. I understand the "Duchess Anne" was previously known as the "Connacht" and was under the former B+I Line livery. The ship was originally built at the former Verolme Dockyard in Rushbrooke near Cobh in Co. Cork.

They actually owned the Duchess Anne.

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roundymac wrote: »

They actually owned the Duchess Anne.

I stand corrected and appreciate the clarification.

For some reason, I got the impression some years back that the reason it had ended it's Cork - St. Malo service due to a number of factors one of which was that Brittany Ferries no longer had a suitable vessel to service the route circa 1996 onwards. I thought they only had the Duchess Anne out on a charter basis at the time so; it was the sale of the ship by Brittany Ferries that was one of the main reasons behind the closure of the route altogether. I had the pleasure of travelling on it myself in July, 1994 from Cork to St. Malo and was impressed by the ship and port of entry.

It was also around that time that the no-frills low cost airlines model really began to take off which must have started hurting the passenger ferry business. Different times indeed

scouserstation

Will be interesting to see what sort of prices we are talking about, if it is as cheap as their British economie service then this could cause an upset with some of Irish ferries sailings. If they get the timing right then 26 hours can pass quite easily for example a lunchtime boarding at Cork then disembark just after lunch in Spain would be an easy sell.This service would be handy for those not just travelling to Spain but also travelling to Southern France cutting out the long drive down from Cherbourg or Roscoff.

Jerry Mac

26 hours on a boat with children would be torture. The 3.5 hour crossing to fishguard can be borderline.

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Jerry Mac wrote: »

26 hours on a boat with children would be torture. The 3.5 hour crossing to fishguard can be borderline.

Brittany Ferries must have thought very long and hard about this route before the official announcement as a route to Spain from the Port of Cork has been a topic of discussion for a number of years. While I'm sure Brittany Ferries do not want to upset any potential customers, perhaps they recognise that this service is not ideal for all users.

That said, if customers looking to take their car & caravan/trailer to the South of France or Northern Spain they would have had to endure long journey times on a ferry (or multiple ferries if using UK as a landbridge) and drive considerable distances anyway which may have been more exhausting for families bringing their children on holiday.

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"EU eyeing sea project to reduce trade costs"
The below newspaper article from the Irish Examiner published in 2008 is now 10 Years old and the official announcement made this week probably stems from this project.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/eu-eyeing-sea-project-to-reduce-trade-costs-59834.html

"Port of Cork to apply for EU funding"
Below here is another article from the Irish Examiner in 2009
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/port-of-cork-to-apply-for-eu-funding-94863.html

Ferry route between Cork, Spain and France ‘imminent’
I believe this turned out to be the short lived service provided by LD Lines on a Rosslare-St Nazaire-Gijón route which was unexpected at that time as the Port of Cork was originally very pro-active on this front.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/ferry-route-between-cork-spain-and-france-imminent-111829.html

no.8

Jerry Mac wrote:

26 hours on a boat with children would be torture. The 3.5 hour crossing to fishguard can be borderline.

A bit of an exaggeration imo. Similar to a long haul flight(s) or road trip, you adjust your mindset and approach to suit. There are a raft of ways to keep children entertained these days and overall it is far less taxing than a sea/Road trip through the UK/France (as another poster mentioned).

ted1

I just priced a trip from Portsmouth to Santander with a car, 2 adults, 3 kids cabin each way.
The total price cane in at about 1100 gbp. Flights for 5 to Bilbao fir the same price is 1200 Euro, then left to rent a car for three weeks.

I reckon pricing will be similar to Portsmouth, hopefully they’ll do a intro fare. Looking to take 3-4 weeks around the Basque Country . I’ve been to San Sebastián, Bilbao about a dozen times and it’s s great part of the country. Really enjoying the benefit of being able to fill the car in the way back with spainish wine.

ted1

26 hours on a ferry is fine, charge the tablets , download stuff from Netflix , pack a picnic baskets and books etc. Get a cabin. And it’ll fly. (Or sail)

They’ll sleep for ten hours

Dj Tom

26 hours on boat not a hope. This won’t last. And for the people who want it for the wine lads ye have a problem. See doctor.

Fann Linn

Jerry Mac wrote: »

26 hours on a boat with children would be torture. The 3.5 hour crossing to fishguard can be borderline.

Ye obviously haven't spent time on a ferry to France so.

Tigerandahalf

It is a good option if your holidays are 3 weeks or so. Losing at least 2 days is not so bad then.

It would be a great option to take a bike tour of Spain or cycle some of the caminos.

North of Spain is a fabulous spot.

Hopefully it is not going to be another short term measure.

However with Brexit and the issues in Calais plus tolls in France maybe freight will see it as an attractive option.

Edit: a good option that may appeal to people is for one person to take the car on the ferry loaded with bikes and the other parent could fly with the kids and be collected at the airport.

no.8

Dj Tom wrote:

26 hours on boat not a hope. This won’t last. And for the people who want it for the wine lads ye have a problem. See doctor.

As with any mode of transport (air travel, by sea, on the rails, by road), you adjust your planning and mindset for the trip. It's not exactly oasis of the seas but you'll manage. Love air travel and use that mode of transport regularly but the freedom to move around / freely look around on ships and trains makes the experience so much more enjoyable.
Some just aren't up for long haul travel though (full stop).

badker

http://www.brittanyferries.ie/ferry-routes/new-direct-ireland-spain-route

Times out for the Cork- Santander route. Wonder why the Friday sailing takes 2 nights.? Be interesting to see prices

ANXIOUS

badker wrote: »

http://www.brittanyferries.ie/ferry-routes/new-direct-ireland-spain-route

Times out for the Cork- Santander route. Wonder why the Friday sailing takes 2 nights.? Be interesting to see prices

Because it leaves at 1030pm, so that 1.5 hours plus the whole next day.

AwaitYourReply

Brittany Ferries have since indicated that it's new Cork to Santander, Spain service has now gone on sale via their reservations team based in Cork.

Those interested may now obtain quotes and make bookings by calling 021-427 7801.

The sailing schedule for it's Cork to Santander, Spain and Cork to Roscoff, France routes have also been outlined.

Further info on all sailing schedule times via below web link:

http://www.brittanyferries.ie/ferry-routes/new-direct-ireland-spain-route

holly8

AwaitYourReply wrote: »

Brittany Ferries have since indicated that it's new Cork to Santander, Spain service has now gone on sale via their reservations team based in Cork.

Those interested may now obtain quotes and make bookings by calling 021-427 7801.

The sailing schedule for it's Cork to Santander, Spain and Cork to Roscoff, France routes have also been outlined.

Further info on all sailing schedule times via below web link:

http://www.brittanyferries.ie/ferry-routes/new-direct-ireland-spain-route

no introductory offers then??

ted1

holly8 wrote: »

AwaitYourReply wrote: »

Brittany Ferries have since indicated that it's new Cork to Santander, Spain service has now gone on sale via their reservations team based in Cork.

Those interested may now obtain quotes and make bookings by calling 021-427 7801.

The sailing schedule for it's Cork to Santander, Spain and Cork to Roscoff, France routes have also been outlined.

Further info on all sailing schedule times via below web link:

http://www.brittanyferries.ie/ferry-routes/new-direct-ireland-spain-route

no introductory offers then??

Has anyone called them ? They may have

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holly8 wrote: »

no introductory offers then??

I'm sure the prices for the new Cork - Santander ferry route on the "Connemara" vessel will probably be at their lowest if you make enquiries and confirm bookings at an early stage. Only way to obtain rates at present is by calling Tel: 021-427 7801. There has been a lot of interest expressed in the service since the announcement so; I'd imagine it's the usual rule of thumb in terms of pricing will largely depend on supply and demand that you find with accommodation/transport operators.

It is based on what Brittany Ferries describe as their successful "économie model" that the ferry operator has established on services from the UK to France and Spain up to now. This will be a very different experience in comparison to the cruise sailings provided by this operator on vessels such as the "MV Pont-Aven" which would cost more.

Meanwhile another operator, Irish Ferries operates it's "economy class" ferry using the vessel "Epsilon" on Dublin Port to Cherbourg and it also operates on the Dublin Port to Holyhead route as well.

badker

€1165 to 1365 for 2 plus car end June. It is a bit steep if thats gonna be lowest price

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badker wrote: »

€1110 bit steep if thats gonna be lowest price

I honestly don't know myself without further details...

What are you actually getting in return for the price quoted?

Is it for one or more people travelling?

Does the price include car/camper/caravan/trailer?

How does it all compare when you add everything up allowing for time and driving to your furthest destination?

What would it cost to fly to Northern Spain and hire a car for same number of people?

Cucumber1

We were so eager to book the crossing to Santander… expecting good price.i rang them and so disappointed, the quote is almost 1500 return, cheapest cabins, the vessel is small and very basic. Choppy bay of biscay is scary but I would go for it if the price was right.
Before they offered the quotes, I checked the quote for Plymouth to Santander and it was 1100 sterling on Pont Aven which is a fab boat!
We will probably go to France again.
Best of luck to those who decide to use it, it will be interesting to hear the reviews.
They said online bookings will start 15th Feb.

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Just wondered if the quotes received were for the busy July+August high season when demand would usually be greater as rates will be reflected accordingly. Also need to factor in the amount of time not driving such long distances which results in cost of fuel savings, less in toll charges, chance for the driver to rest during transit with X 2 nights accommodation provided on the Friday night departure sailing from Cork.

I'm not surprised to hear that Plymouth to Santander is cheaper as this is probably due to several factors one of which is the shorter crossing duration somewhere in the region of 19-20 hours on Plymouth-Santander crossing Vs 26 hours on Cork-Santander crossing, a difference of 6-7 additional hours which is not insignificant as I would imagine that each route would need to be a sustainable service for the ferry operator in question.

Cost of renting holiday facilities at home here in Ireland for 1-2 weeks during July+August can also be very expensive not to mention the unreliable weather and high cost of living. Rates will tend to fluctuate depending on supply and demand and vary between high and low season whether you are booking a ferry sailing, airline flight, cruise holiday, hotel stay, B+B/Guesthouse stay, tourist hostel stay, holiday rental accommodation, caravan/mobile home rental etc;

Maybe once the Online system at Brittany Ferries is open for booking as from 15th February it may reflect discounts but I would not be expecting to find huge reductions during the busy high season period although; there may be scope for better deals from end of April-June & September/October...Either way, I hope it goes well for all concerned and that prices can be as competitive as possible in the months and years ahead.

If BREXIT does go through next year as planned, I wonder if Duty Free Shopping will ever return for Ireland to UK travel in the years ahead? Such a move could help restore interest in a possible Cork-Swansea ferry link again if the right circumstances and resources were put in place.

scouserstation

€1500 return sounds very expensive, obviously they have to make the route financially viable but at those prices its not going to be an easy sell, why cant Brittany ferries apply for motorway of the seas funding to subsidise the costs, im sure this route would meet the criteria for it.

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scouserstation wrote: »

€1500 return sounds very expensive, obviously they have to make the route financially viable but at those prices its not going to be an easy sell, why cant Brittany ferries apply for motorway of the seas funding to subsidise the costs, im sure this route would meet the criteria for it.

Still unsure of how the 1500EUR quote figure is actually based?
How many passengers - Number of Adults and/or Kids breakdown?
What were Departure/Return travel dates?
Is there a Car/Camper/Caravan/trailer included in this quote?
Cabin accommodation included in quote?
If so, how many cabins quoted, is it considered standard/deluxe/suite?
Any food+beverage vouchers or other extras included?

How does it all compare if you use alternative methods allowing for fuel costs, toll charges, vehicle wear & tear, other ferry link ticket prices, length of time in transit, driver fatigue etc;

All rates quoted are usually time and date sensitive in these situations (e.g.) You would not expect a bargain rate at certain times of year such as during school holidays with most transport carriers/accommodation providers however; it is unclear from the post if this was the case or not. Maybe we will get more transparency when Brittany Ferries online booking system for this new route is due to open as from 15th of February next.

As for applying for "Motorway of the Seas" funding from the EU, it is unclear as to whether the Port of Cork/Brittany Ferries managed to obtain this for the new Cork - Santander route commencing end of April this year. I would imagine that it was considered as the Port of Cork had previously tried to launch a Cork - Gijon service in recent years and there were calls for "Motorway of the Seas" funding.

Sources:
http://www.portofcork.ie/index.cfm/page/currentnews/id/117
https://afloat.ie/item/22282-new-ireland-spain-ferry-route-called-for-at-trade-transport-discussions

Of course, you previously had a short lived ferry service operated by LD Lines between Rosslare - Saint Nazaire - Gijon which ended after 29th August 2014 sailing ex-Rosslare. A link from Ireland to Spain using a French landbridge at Saint Nazaire. Below are press releases announcing the start and termination of that service. That service apparently had secured 'Motorways of the Sea' funding but had to go off-service for three months for dry-docking and other duties until she resumed the Irish route in June and would finally cease altogether in late August 2014.

Sources:
https://afloat.ie/port-news/ferry-news/item/24163-ld-lines-launch-first-ever-irish-spanish-ferry-service%20
https://afloat.ie/item/26520-ld-lines-to-cease-ireland-france-spain-services

Cucumber1

My quote of 1500 is for standard car, 2 adults 2 kids with cheapest cabin, nothing else. The vessel is equvalent to Stena Horizon so just truckers Ro ro. Yes in holiday season. Proper cruise to France is 900 for same dates same family.
Fly and car hire for same dates is cheaper! (And you don't lose days on travel).
Did you get a quote?

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Cucumber1 wrote: »

My quote of 1500 is for standard car, 2 adults 2 kids with cheapest cabin, nothing else. The vessel is equvalent to Stena Horizon so just truckers Ro ro. Yes in holiday season. Proper cruise to France is 900 for same dates same family.
Fly and car hire for same dates is cheaper! (And you don't lose days on travel).
Did you get a quote?

I am not in a position to travel abroad myself this year so; I did not request a quotation. Your alternative findings will be useful information for others looking to travel to Spain by ferry this year. I would have thought that prices would have been more competitive given that it is meant to have been based on their "économie model". If you managed to obtain a quote for 900 for same dates, same party of persons travelling then this is a significant difference.

Flying and car hire cheaper for similar dates is also interesting.

Perhaps there are those customers who will not shop around for cheaper alternative options but this is a risk that the operator is taking if the price difference is too significant versus other methods.

What are the arrival departure and arrival ports for the 900 cruise sailing quote?

Maybe Brittany Ferries opted to run with these opening rates first until they could better gauge what prices/package deals should be offered once they opened for Online booking as from 15th of February although; I have no inside knowledge. I understand that Brittany Ferries have operated their Cork - Roscoff route since 1978 so; I imagine they must know what they are doing from a commercial perspective in the Irish market having operated out of Cork for 40 years. At the end of the day, the market will ultimately decide so; I hope that this service is as successful as the Cork - Roscoff route which is expanding it's choice of sailings this year however; prices need to be competitive on the new Cork - Santander route if it is to succeed in the long term.

Nobody wants to see a repeat of the short lived Ireland-France-Spain service which was previously operated by another carrier called "LD Lines" between the ports of: Rosslare-Saint Nazaire-Gijón during 2014.

I hope you and your family enjoy your summer holidays in 2018 regardless of how you travel to your final destination. Bon Voyage or Buen Viaje! (in Spanish)
:cool:

Tigerandahalf

It seems this ferry won't take passengers on foot, only with motorised vehicles.

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Tigerandahalf wrote: »

It seems this ferry won't take passengers on foot, only with motorised vehicles.

That's interesting.
I'm come across other ferry services in the past that adopted a similar policy where those described as "Foot Passengers" were not permitted to use certain services. This is clearly aimed at passengers travelling with vehicles & freight as the operator may feel that it is not suitable for "Foot Passengers" only. I gather there is only a limited amount of accommodation space & facilities on the chartered vessel "Connemara" so; it looks like they want to avoid problems especially given the longer crossing time of 26 hours approx. Perhaps this is a wise move on the part of Brittany Ferries given that it is the start of a new service. If this route becomes a major success, maybe they will organise a larger vessel at some point in the future meaning less restrictions.

Tabnabs

It's also a matter of logistics; foot passengers need an assembly area ashore, baggage handling facility, and a gangway to get onboard. None of this is needed with vehicular based passengers.

Muahahaha

Anyone know if they take motorbikes? And if you are charged the same as a car for doing so?

Tigerandahalf

Muahahaha wrote: »

Anyone know if they take motorbikes? And if you are charged the same as a car for doing so?

They do take motorbikes. Check the website for quote.

badker

prices seem cheaper than what was quoted originally

ted1

badker wrote: »

prices seem cheaper than what was quoted originally

Dearer than my original quote

scouserstation

The new Cork - Santander route is already attracting a lot of interest from the tourism sector and the haulage industry while fishermen have even claimed the route will become a "game changer" within the industry, according to the evening echo

http://www.eveningecho.ie/businessnews/New-Cork-to-Spain-ferry-link-will-be-a-game-changer-2dad75ef-53e4-4540-acef-68ad6d249a3b-ds

Agent_47

So who has taken the plunge and what are the good and bad points from the route. Looking to go later in the year and do a road trip as fares very cheap

Stab*City

We are travelling in August. Jeep, Two Adults, Two Kids, Dog, Roofbox, Bikes €1500.

Anyone been on this yet?

Agent_47

Better thread with more info on it here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/crd.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2057830820%26utm_source%3Dnotification%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Ddigestthread&d=OHyl06PzAdaNyvwwfpH2BQLq1lpk3GU8wlWIPCTFWFqEriAiYzdUngz8l0kKWznNeh6-113v0msGBU6_5XaRZjWPLUzdq8lpCdPHpdCS74ogo-ut3mVjJCJ405ZGqB3_fmsjuOxDz1AbJpQGa2cKU7uovdyh_ZaVkz6WL51IeJ3bF2Z-F3xNNdf9TljskB1YJPbUDicQHOzJJhbC7Wve27A1Vpu1cl6dGFbNAqZH5jpeSK6iduGbEgTc70ACeL7Q49L3Rmj_JE2a_j1pmObCEuzuPpf0fZGHoJDgmOLionZmbC7RA9WtT00oZKUADZ0q0xXFjg3moWXOGE795MkpD_EWfKx0iS2-StI85N6QOQhKxw..

Stab*City

Agent_47 wrote: »

Better thread with more info on it here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/crd.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2057830820%26utm_source%3Dnotification%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Ddigestthread&d=OHyl06PzAdaNyvwwfpH2BQLq1lpk3GU8wlWIPCTFWFqEriAiYzdUngz8l0kKWznNeh6-113v0msGBU6_5XaRZjWPLUzdq8lpCdPHpdCS74ogo-ut3mVjJCJ405ZGqB3_fmsjuOxDz1AbJpQGa2cKU7uovdyh_ZaVkz6WL51IeJ3bF2Z-F3xNNdf9TljskB1YJPbUDicQHOzJJhbC7Wve27A1Vpu1cl6dGFbNAqZH5jpeSK6iduGbEgTc70ACeL7Q49L3Rmj_JE2a_j1pmObCEuzuPpf0fZGHoJDgmOLionZmbC7RA9WtT00oZKUADZ0q0xXFjg3moWXOGE795MkpD_EWfKx0iS2-StI85N6QOQhKxw..

Thanks!!

Tarbyonline

scouserstation wrote: »

The new Cork - Santander route is already attracting a lot of interest from the tourism sector and the haulage industry while fishermen have even claimed the route will become a "game changer" within the industry, according to the evening echo

Unfortunately, for now at least, it seems all this initial interest hasn't transpired into bookings. Its still very early days though. Freight in particular will take time to change routes.

roundymac

Tarbyonline wrote: »

Unfortunately, for now at least, it seems all this initial interest hasn't transpired into bookings. Its still very early days though. Freight in particular will take time to change routes.

Source?

Tarbyonline

roundymac wrote: »

Tarbyonline wrote: »

Unfortunately, for now at least, it seems all this initial interest hasn't transpired into bookings. Its still very early days though. Freight in particular will take time to change routes.

Source?

Industry statistics. Unfortunately not something I can make public. However, I again stress it is very early days! It’s not unusual for a route to start off slow.

roundymac

Tarbyonline wrote: »

Industry statistics. Unfortunately not something I can make public. However, I again stress it is very early days! It’s not unusual for a route to start off slow.

Usual bluff in other words.

roundymac

Was down in Ringaskiddy last, plenty of freight and a handy number of car's loading.