No more rain gun slurry at all?

tellmeabit

As it says. Is there no more rain gun slurry spreading. Have Glen used to use rain gun to spread slurry on slope. Am goosed now

wrangler

tellmeabit wrote: »

As it says. Is there no more rain gun slurry spreading. Have Glen used to use rain gun to spread slurry on slope. Am goosed now

Here's a quote from a four year old Farmers Journal, as i suspected that rain guns were illegal since we had to get rid of the upward facing splash plate.
In answer to your question, it was just as illegal last year when you were at it

''‘Sludge irrigator’ is legalese for rain gun; accordingly, its use is not allowed. This is not new, with the use of rain guns being prohibited since the 2006 European Communities (Good Agricultural Practice for Protection of Waters) Regulations.''

tellmeabit

I thought it was not legal from the road last year....

Say my name

tellmeabit wrote: »

I thought it was not legal from the road last year....

You must be from NI or Gb.

Are you serious?
It's illegal for years.
Stick up a picture of yourself doing it with your reg number and see what happens.

(Btw for your own sake don't).

wrangler

tellmeabit wrote: »

I thought it was not legal from the road last year....

Didn't think of you not being from southern Ireland,

Here's the rules for slurry spreading as per cross compliance, this is in years here.
They call a rain gun a sludge irrigator, I'd say more than you will be taken a back by these rules, some think that once the date passes they're away.

This is what's prohibited
Not allowed to
Spread fertilisers during the prohibited spreading period
§ Use an upward-facing splash plate or sludge irrigator on a tanker, or use one on an umbilical system for
spreading organic fertiliser or soiled water
§ Spread organic fertilisers or soiled water from a road or passageway, even if the road or passageway is
on your own holding
§ Spread chemical fertilisers, livestock manure, soiled water or other organic fertilisers when:
§ The land is waterlogged
§ The land is flooded, or it is likely to flood
§ The land is frozen, or covered with snow
§ Heavy rain is forecast within 48 hours (you must check the weather forecast prior to spreading)
§ Spread chemical fertilisers, livestock manure, soiled water or other organic fertilisers if the ground has a
steep slope (> 10%) and if there is a significant risk of causing pollution. When you are deciding whether
there is a risk, you must take into account how close you are to waters, what condition the soil is in, the
ground cover and how much rainfall there is or how much rainfall is expected
§ Spread chemical fertiliser on land within 2 metres of surface water

Never wrestle with pigs

Were you not pumping dirty water from your flooded mother in laws yard?

tellmeabit

I'll be out with a 10 ltr bucket so

Muckit

Say my name wrote: »

You must be from NI or Gb.

Are you serious?
It's illegal for years.
Stick up a picture of yourself doing it with your reg number and see what happens.

(Btw for your own sake don't).

Legalities aside, what would the difference be between splash plate and rain gun? Is it all not going up in the air? Rain gun at least you not squashing poor earthworms

davidk1394

Muckit wrote: »

Legalities aside, what would the difference be between splash plate and rain gun? Is it all not going up in the air? Rain gun at least you not squashing poor earthworms

I'd say the reason for banning the rain gun is the excess amount of atmospheric N being lost while spreading it. In another few years i could see the standard splash plate being banned aswell

Say my name

Muckit wrote: »

Legalities aside, what would the difference be between splash plate and rain gun? Is it all not going up in the air? Rain gun at least you not squashing poor earthworms

Both kind of the same. Well the dirty water from a rain gun would have further to fall through the air.
From the dept point of view it was brought in to stop slurry/dirty water being spread when land was saturated and increasing the chance of runoff.
From their point of view it was ban the rain gun use and prioritize slurry holding facilities for spreading in drier times of the year.
Although this business of stopping the splash plate after June is a bit crap too.
There's a bit of leeway there but still, farmings becoming a bit of a dangerous business now. You could end up in a room with a murderer for going about your business.

bogman_bass

Muckit wrote: »

Say my name wrote: »

You must be from NI or Gb.

Are you serious?
It's illegal for years.
Stick up a picture of yourself doing it with your reg number and see what happens.

(Btw for your own sake don't).

Legalities aside, what would the difference be between splash plate and rain gun? Is it all not going up in the air? Rain gun at least you not squashing poor earthworms

If you are using a rain gun then chances are it's on ground that's either on a steep slip or saturated and can't handle a tanker. Either way that run off is only going one way

Muckit

I've had my well contaminated from splash plate slurry spread by a neighbour during open season. So not exclusive to rain gun.

alps

Muckit wrote: »

I've had my well contaminated from splash plate slurry spread by a neighbour during open season. So not exclusive to rain gun.

Can you talk us through that Muckit? How it became noticeable, how it cleared up? Terrain, weather?

Muckit

I dont want to go into the specifics of the case. I would advise everyone with full tanks this time of the year though to be extremely careful about how, when and where they spread after the open date. Slurry odour is a minor and fairly fleeting nuisance compared to well contamination. The effects of which will last for over 6 weeks until the brown colour goes and God knows when it would be potable for human consumption without some sort of UV filtration system. Well would need to be sterilised and water testing done until no traces of cattle faecial matter found.