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UPVC tilt and turn : installing trickle vents

  • 08-01-2018 3:15pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭


    Hi folks,

    We had our windows replaced a couple of years ago and went for tilt and turn triple glazed windows.

    The triple glazing is great for heat retention but I regret getting the tilt and turn since there is no ability to keep the window partially open a fraction while locked as there is with other windows.

    I was thinking of installing trickle vents and wonder if posters here have done so before.

    These are the ones I was looking at : http://www.windowrepairshop.co.uk/epages/es115683.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es115683_shop/Products/%22Titon%204000mm%20Trickle%20Vent%22/SubProducts/H45

    If you installed them in the past how did you get on? Was it difficult? Any tips to make it easier? Was it effective?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭hooplah


    This video on youtube looks like a decent guide on how to install trickle vents: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlGoG2CdLAk

    Anyone who has done the job care to comment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭dok_golf


    Was working in a house today where the lady had new windows installed in November. She is now getting the walls pumped but needs trickle vents to get the SEI grant. The lad that installed them will retro fit trickle vents for here. Its a matter of drilling holes in the frame and covering with a vent cover. The only thing I would be wary off is hitting the metal frame within the window. If this is nicked and air can get at it, then rust can set in internally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭Alkers


    Haven't watched the video but you could consider wall vents also, you can get humidity controlled vents which will open only when the internal air is humid. Don't require power but circa 100e per vent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    You can get catches that are used when the window is in tilt mode.

    https://www.handlestore.com/r06-tilt-turn-window-restrictor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭hooplah


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    Haven't watched the video but you could consider wall vents also, you can get humidity controlled vents which will open only when the internal air is humid. Don't require power but circa 100e per vent.

    Are they difficult to fit?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭hooplah


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    You can get catches that are used when the window is in tilt mode.

    https://www.handlestore.com/r06-tilt-turn-window-restrictor

    Ah I hadn't come across those before, thanks for sharing that. It's a pity they're not lockable, but they are worth considering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    hooplah wrote: »
    Ah I hadn't come across those before, thanks for sharing that. It's a pity they're not lockable, but they are worth considering.

    Best option tbh, - You shouldnt leave your windows open in any way when out of the house as youll regret it a the point of break in.

    And those trickle vents will always be open and you may get wind noise / excess heat loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭Alkers


    hooplah wrote:
    Are they difficult to fit?

    Not at all, if you have a 100mm core. Any handyman could do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    Not at all, if you have a 100mm core. Any handyman could do it.

    Core drilling is not fun id ask a professional to do it. Recently completed 16 Core holes on my renovation and thats with a professional core drill.

    Yes they are difficult to fit if you dont have the right tools, that can include simple items like a ladder for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭hooplah


    I got some 4 inch vents put into my house by someone else (it's mass concrete which is a pain to drill, and I wouldn't be happy doing the top storey of the house).

    I was wondering more about fitting the vent into the hole, hmmm. I was looking at this and thought it might be a goer, but was reluctant to shell out on it without knowing more about fitting it.
    http://www.i-sells.co.uk/mob/prod_detail.php?cPath=10_210_215_218_230&products_id=3169

    [The trickle vents are for a different room].


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭Alkers


    hooplah wrote:
    I was wondering more about fitting the vent into the hole, hmmm. I was looking at this and thought it might be a goer, but was reluctant to shell out on it without knowing more about fitting it.


    Aside from drilling the core, it's very simple


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    Aside from drilling the core, it's very simple

    super simple. bit of cutting to shorten pipe. maybe a screw or 4 on that unit and then some gunk for sealing. Might be foam for any gaps but its all in anyones capabilities


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    hooplah wrote: »
    Ah I hadn't come across those before, thanks for sharing that. It's a pity they're not lockable, but they are worth considering.

    You can’t get in a tilted window either way so there shouldn’t be an issue.

    At least this option doesn’t mean you’re ruining the insulation of your window.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭hooplah


    Thanks for all the tips folks. One more question while I have everyone here - would one 100mm vent suffice for a 5m x 3m bedroom? It's on the first floor, the vent is about 30cm off the floor and from the way it's reduced the temperature in the room it seems to be getting a decent flow of air through it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    That's plenty big . Don't like vents on the floor myself should be 30cm from the ceiling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭hooplah


    listermint wrote: »
    Don't like vents on the floor myself should be 30cm from the ceiling

    Why is that? I'm half suspicious they did it that way to just make it easier for themselves but is there a technical reason?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    hooplah wrote: »
    Why is that? I'm half suspicious they did it that way to just make it easier for themselves but is there a technical reason?

    My understanding is cool air flows into the room below your door and this is heated by your radiators and this then rises up and moves out, creating a continous flow of clean air into the room.

    This action would be prevented by floor vents.


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