Paid for 3 months motor tax, got 2 months?

messinkiapina

I paid for 3 months motor tax on a car I bought recently. Paid on November 28th, just got an email from them saying my renewal date is January 31st?

So I effectively am getting 2 months and a couple of days? Is that right?? I feel like I've been mugged.

freshpopcorn

messinkiapina wrote: »

I paid for 3 months motor tax on a car I bought recently. Paid on November 28th, just got an email from them saying my renewal date is January 31st?

So I effectively am getting 2 months and a couple of days? Is that right?? I feel like I've been mugged.

Yes, you owned the car in the month of November.
You should have already known this from your tax disc.

Kenny Logins

From November 1st to January 31st is 3 months (your disc must have expired on October 31st).

Stheno

messinkiapina wrote: »

I paid for 3 months motor tax on a car I bought recently. Paid on November 28th, just got an email from them saying my renewal date is January 31st?

So I effectively am getting 2 months and a couple of days? Is that right?? I feel like I've been mugged.

Yep

Regardless of when in a month you tax a car it counts as a full month

tayto lover

You should have waited until Dec 1st to apply.

Neilw

tayto lover wrote: »

You should have waited until Dec 1st to apply.

While the op would have got a disc for 3 months, they would have to pay arrears for November.

messinkiapina

tayto lover wrote: »

You should have waited until Dec 1st to apply.

Definitely would have if id known it works like that!

That's taking the urine a small bit.

Neilw

messinkiapina wrote: »

Definitely would have if id known it works like that!

That's taking the urine a small bit.

You bought the car in November so you're liable for tax for the full month of November.
Even if you waited to tax it until December you would still have to pay for November.
Now if you bought the car December 1st, you would only be liable for tax from December and would have got your 3 month disc.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

messinkiapina wrote: »

Definitely would have if id known it works like that!

That's taking the urine a small bit.

The Irish tax system is by far the most unfair backwards tax system in the world.

Isambard

Neilw wrote: »

While the op would have got a disc for 3 months, they would have to pay arrears for November.

no they could have declared it off road and stored it to the first and then taxed with no arrears.

Charles Babbage

Hunky Monster wrote: »

The Irish tax system is by far the most unfair backwards tax system in the world.

Exaggerate much?

tayto lover

Neilw wrote: »

While the op would have got a disc for 3 months, they would have to pay arrears for November.

Not if he said he bought it in Dec.

Neilw

Isambard wrote: »

no they could have declared it off road and stored it to the first and then taxed with no arrears.

But they didn't declare it off the road, deal with the facts.

tayto lover wrote: »

Not if he said he bought it in Dec.

Saying you bought it in December won't work if the vlc change of ownership is dated in November, which it was.

Isambard

Neilw wrote: »

But they didn't declare it off the road, deal with the facts.



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well it isn't a fact that he taxed it in December and had to pay arrears either is it?

Neilw

Isambard wrote: »

well it isn't a fact that he taxed it in December and had to pay arrears either is it?

You're not grasping this are you?

Car was bought in November so the op is liable for tax for the month of November. Even if they left it to tax the car until December, they still would have had to pay for tax for the month of November.

You are liable for tax from the date of sale, which in this case is November.

myshirt

I very nearly got caught on a car I imported before, you have a certain amount of days to pay the vrt and I seen an appointment was available for the end of March. Thank god I went for the one a few days later (in April) because if I had registered the car on the last day of March I would have been liable for the full month tax. This was a 3 litre BMW, not cheap.

Cee-Jay-Cee

messinkiapina wrote: »

I paid for 3 months motor tax on a car I bought recently. Paid on November 28th, just got an email from them saying my renewal date is January 31st?

So I effectively am getting 2 months and a couple of days? Is that right?? I feel like I've been mugged.

Isambard wrote: »

well it isn't a fact that he taxed it in December and had to pay arrears either is it?

He states quite clearly in his post that he paid the tax on the 28th November. Do you have difficulty understanding plain English??!

PurvesGrundy

You have a grace period of 21 days until you receive the log book.

Declare it off the road, wait a while and then tax it. It could possibly wipe the months arrears in this situation.

sdanseo

Hunky Monster wrote: »

The Irish tax system is by far the most unfair backwards tax system in the world.

It is but not for this reason. The smallest unit of time the system deals with is one month (or part thereof) - if we had people paying for odd days of tax the arrears calculations would be far more complex and you'd possibly end up having to provide a receipt for purchase etc.

Isambard

Neilw wrote: »

You're not grasping this are you?

Car was bought in November so the op is liable for tax for the month of November. Even if they left it to tax the car until December, they still would have had to pay for tax for the month of November.

You are liable for tax from the date of sale, which in this case is November.

I'm well aware of that I'm merely pointly out that you are talking of what might have happened if he had paid in December, which is no different from me saying what might have happened if he'd declared it off the road . Deal with facts ;-)

Isambard

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

He states quite clearly in his post that he paid the tax on the 28th November. Do you have difficulty understanding plain English??!

no but you can't read it...not what I said at all

twin_beacon

Isambard wrote: »

well it isn't a fact that he taxed it in December and had to pay arrears either is it?

The date the car tax was paid doesn't matter, as the ownership was switched over in the month of November, then the new owner has to pay motor tax from the first of November.

pearcider

Been stung before by this. If you're buying near the end of the month, just agree with the seller to put the 1st of the following month on the log book as the date of sale and ask them to hold off on sending it to dept of transport until then.

Isambard

twin_beacon wrote: »

The date the car tax was paid doesn't matter, as the ownership was switched over in the month of November, then the new owner has to pay motor tax from the first of November.

unless as I suggested he had declared it off road.

Cee-Jay-Cee

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

You have a grace period of 21 days until you receive the log book.

Declare it off the road, wait a while and then tax it. It could possibly wipe the months arrears in this situation.

No you don’t. There is no such thing. Gardai have discretion in that they ‘may’ allow you a grace period but they’re not obliged to and you can be prosecuted if the car isn’t taxed.

He bought the car at the end of November and so therefore cannot declare the car off the road for November so there is no way around it. He should have either waited till 1st December to buy the car or pay tax from the beginning of November. There is no other way out of it.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Isambard wrote: »

no but you can't read it...not what I said at all

Well maybe if you didn’t talk in riddles people would have half a clue what your on about. It’s quite clear what the op stated yet you start BSing about ‘isn’t it a fact’ and then stating something completely wrong. You need to learn to speak in ordinary language rather trying to dress up some nonsense argument in flowery language that only you understand.

Hoboo

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

He should have either waited till 1st December to buy the car or pay tax from the beginning of November. There is no other way out of it.

Well there is.

He could have changed the ownership again to a family member or friend, dating the sale as Dec 1st, taxing it without arrears as its a change of ownership, and then changing ownership back straight afterwards

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Charles Babbage wrote: »

Exaggerate much?

You sound like a 16 year old girl.