What is your moral stance on this issue

percy212

Check out the thread over on legal about a dog incident on a vet premises.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057822568

Tigger

if itvwas my dog id be cross

cocker5

If it were my dog I’d be very p*ssed off .. plus she would be paying for my vet bill (if any costs incurred) .. id have serious words with her.

With regard to moral aspect? Vets are stressful places .. my dog wees himself with fear etc .. dogs can behave irrationally etc yes a dog of that nature should be muzzled.. most likely in all public places .. but no I’ve no moral obligation to make that happen.

tk123

I’d be pissed off at both the owner and the Vets for not having her put the dog on a lead sooner let alone muzzle it. I took Bailey over one time when he was in a lot of pain .. there was a dog running around reception approaching every dog... every time I had Bailey settled (I even had a kong for him to sit with as I expected to be waiting ages) and sitting down the dog was over annoying him or the dog next to him.. every time the door opened it was a rush to stop the dog running out etc etc
Eventually I snapped after Bailey stood up yet again after the dog bashed into him and asked would she put the dog on lead as my dog was in a lot of pain and her dog wouldn’t leave him alone. I had words with the Vet too because both the Vet and nurses had been out a number of times and hadn’t enforced their own bloody rule of dogs must be on leash!

Just to add - the breed is irrelevant to me on this and I have no fear of kids being eaten by the dog either(!)

faceman

That’s shocking but even more shocking that the vet hadn’t insisted on dog being on a lead.

My problem with stories like this is that there will be very little in terms of punishment for the owner which is in most of these cases, the root cause of the problem. The story in the news this week of the dog owner in Donegal who was fined €10 for mistreating her dog is a prime example that laws around dog ownership are desperately in need of an update.

I imagine most people would be in support of stricter punishments for flouting animal ownership laws.

Knine

I would be disgusted but to be honest the minute I walked into the waiting room and saw the loose dog and it's idiot owner I would have insisted that it was put on a lead.

I'm not going to skirt around the issue either. Pit Bulls have very strong jaws and when they get into a fight they can be very hot and can do an awful lot of damage. This time bomb needs to be removed from its obviously irresponsible owner before it kills another dog.

I often have my children with me at the vets and if that happened to my dog with my children present or caught up in it then God help both the vets and owner. I would insist that the owner pays all vets bills.

Bells21

I think, breed aside for the moment, everyone needs to have their dog on a short enough leash at the vets. It's a stressful situation and you just don't know how your dog is going to react. You also don't know which other dogs are in pain etc and even though they may normally be happy to greet other dogs or interact, if they're in pain who would really want another dog in their face or bouncing into them? I think both the owner and vets are at fault. If the owner is really that stupid and can't see that their dog needs to be leashed then that's where the vet needs to remind them and insist on a dog being leashed. I know in our local vets, dogs are on leads and the receptionist will often ask people to wait at their cars or outside if the weather permits and their dog is boisterous or very very nervy.
On the part of breed, any dog could've behaved in the manner that this dog did, but unfortunately being a rather strong breed, there is a far greater risk of injury/serious injury or worse, to others when this kind of incident happens.
I think what really gets on my nerves is that both dogs were put in this situation by one idiot owner. It was A very easily preventable incident.

peasant

Our vet has a very simple policy:
While there is a waiting area to sit down if you so want, it's for people only.

The animals have to wait in the car until it's their turn.
This pretty much avoids all possible encounters and takes a lot of anxiety out of a situation that for most dogs is already stress laden as it is.

Makes perfect sense to me and I wouln't want it any other way

eviltwin

I'd be changing vets tbh.

tk123

peasant wrote: »

Makes perfect sense to me and I wouln't want it any other way

Maybe in a rural setting - I live less than 5 mins from the Vets so would never drive over and pay for parking - if I was even able to get a space!

Bailey sits holding his ball at the Vets anyways so we don’t need to wait in the car. If I need avoid somebody and their PITA dog i’ll wait outside with him

peasant

tk123 wrote: »

Maybe in a rural setting -

Town folk shouldn't have dogs anyway :pac:

deadlybuzzman

I'd love to know how that woman could justify that behaviour in her own head. I feel sorry for the other dog but I'd love to know what the woman would have thought had her own dog tried that with another bulldog that might never start a fight but will happily finish a fight.
If she did something daft like that God knows what else she could be at. I've actually looked at buying a break stick for exactly that kind of scenario

La.de.da

All dogs in public areas should be on a lead. I'd be very pissed off if that was my dog hurt.

I've a jack russel, she gets very stressed in the vets(as a lot of dogs do) so if the waiting room is full I'll wait outside with her. She can be unpredictable under those circumstances, wouldn't chance her or another animal getting hurt.

Poor choices on owners behalf there. Should be liable for veterinarian costs at least.

TG1

Very surprised a vet would allow an unleashed dog in the waiting room. Any vet we used with Bob they insisted on all animals being kept in containers or on leads.

Someone brought a rabbit in in their arms and the receptionist actually gave them a cat carrier to put it in in case it got out as there were dogs there.

However as others have said, the owner on this scenario is at fault, a vet is a tough environment for any dog and to not have it on a lead is asking for trouble, regardless of the breed!

Latatian

Complete and utter idiot owner. I had a beautiful alabrador, loved other dogs and people, gentle as they come, and I always had a lead on her at the vets as I couldn't guarantee that she wouldn't walk up to another dog to try and (politely) make friends. That in itself could be an unnecessary stress for other dogs. Or get them injured- when she got old and frail, friendly dogs were the bane of my life in the vet because she would hop about with excitement and like as not hurt herself or fall over.