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Tunerless TVs & the Licence

  • 19-12-2017 2:54am
    #1
    absolute_ zero_ 2117
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    Does anyone have a concrete answer to the question posed here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=91271999

    Essentially if you remove the tuner from a TV does it still qualify as a "television set" in respect to TV licence law? As it is not capable of receiving a broadcast signal; in the same way PC monitors are exempt.


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  • #2
    ei9go
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    I am aware of a case where this was tried in court and the decision was that because the device originally had a tuner it was still a TV.


  • #3
    absolute_ zero_ 2117
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭absolute_ zero_ 2117


    Do you have a source on that? I'd like to read the full story.


  • #4
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Its an area that is likely to change. The Minister responsible can designate other devices as being liable. With IPTV and people watching live streams, its inevitable that theyll be next.

    Are you really going to try and cleanly remove the tuner module ?.

    Best of luck with that. Hope you know what you are at.


  • #5
    GerardKeating
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    absolute_ zero_ 2117 wrote: »
    Does anyone have a concrete answer to the question posed here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=91271999

    Essentially if you remove the tuner from a TV does it still qualify as a "television set" in respect to TV licence law? As it is not capable of receiving a broadcast signal; in the same way PC monitors are exempt.

    Cheaper just to buy a PC monitor.


  • #6
    absolute_ zero_ 2117
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭absolute_ zero_ 2117


    GerardKeating wrote: »
    Cheaper just to buy a PC monitor.

    Not when you already own the TV. High end monitors are usually miles more expensive than similarly capable TVs are.
    STB. wrote: »
    Its an area that is likely to change. The Minister responsible can designate other devices as being liable. With IPTV and people watching live streams, its inevitable that theyll be next.

    Are you really going to try and cleanly remove the tuner module ?.

    Best of luck with that. Hope you know what you are at.

    They've been talking about an all-encompassing "broadcast charge" that'll catch you if you have anything bigger than a phone and/or an internet connection for years now. They keep kicking that can down the road though.

    If I knew it'd exempt the device from the licence I'd go ahead with it. If I don't think I could do it myself I could I always ask for help or pay a professional to do it. They key word there is "if".


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  • #7
    [Deleted User]
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    It was claimed on here a number of years ago that you could just remove the mains plug from the TV and it would be OK. Turns out it's not. The TV is considered to be in a "can be repaired" state so is still capable of receiving TV signals if repaired. I'd suspect that removing the tuner would be considered the same thing.


  • #8
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    ei9go wrote: »
    I am aware of a case where this was tried in court and the decision was that because the device originally had a tuner it was still a TV.
    IIRC in the UK you can use that defence , but not here.

    Please remember that reception here has a long history. Regulation has been in place since The Wireless Telegraphy Act 1904


  • #9
    mikeecho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    absolute_ zero_ 2117 wrote: »
    .......

    They've been talking about an all-encompassing "broadcast charge" that'll catch you if you have anything bigger than a phone and/or an internet connection for years now. They keep kicking that can down the road though.......

    And they'll keep kicking it down the road until after the next election.


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