Carbon Monoxide Alarms

superd1978

Folks,

Im looking for some feedback on a solid CO alarm. Ive recently had a wood burning stove installed and my chest and throat has been feeling very strange, so obviously starting to get a little concerned.

Ideally id like a CO alarm with a digital reading rather than just an alarm when/if it hits high rates.

Also if it was something that integrated with a phone app so you can get some kind of graphical time line views, but i suppose first and foremost being trusted and reliable.

I did come across this device:

https://www.eielectronics.ie/94-news/201-ei-electronics-launch-new-audiolink-technology.html

Any thoughts much appreciated.

PM me if required.

Thanks a million,

D

Cough Cough.....

wexfordman2

superd1978 wrote: »

Folks,

Im looking for some feedback on a solid CO alarm. Ive recently had a wood burning stove installed and my chest and throat has been feeling very strange, so obviously starting to get a little concerned.

Ideally id like a CO alarm with a digital reading rather than just an alarm when/if it hits high rates.

Also if it was something that integrated with a phone app so you can get some kind of graphical time line views, but i suppose first and foremost being trusted and reliable.

I did come across this device:

https://www.eielectronics.ie/94-news/201-ei-electronics-launch-new-audiolink-technology.html

Any thoughts much appreciated.

PM me if required.

Thanks a million,

D

Cough Cough.....

Have one of those, and tbh, not impressed. It works by downloading an app, and then if you want to read the data, then up a ladder you go, open the app and push the rest button in a certain sequence.

You then get a loud and long audible modem type noise, and the app records it and decodes it.

It never decoded it properly for me, but even if it did, an extremely cumbersome process to the point you'll likely never use it.

So in summary, it just pretends to be smart, don't get it.

Gen.Zhukov

It sounds to me like the stove is just drying out the air too much. I don't advocate forgetting about the CO concerns at all. At least a bog standard alarm should be there regardless.

You could try placing a dish of water on/near the stove and see if that puts a bit of humidity back into the room and see if that helps.

wexfordman2

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

It sounds to me like the stove is just drying out the air too much. I don't advocate forgetting about the CO concerns at all. At least a bog standard alarm should be there regardless.

You could try placing a dish of water on/near the stove and see if that puts a bit of humidity back into the room and see if that helps.

Sorry, I wasn't advocating not having a carbon monoxide alarm, jest that the features of that one are pretty crap, I would either go for a standard carbon monoxide alarm, or else a property smart carbon monoxide alarm, which this one is not

listermint

Is the room ventilated ?

Who installed this stove?

Any smoke?

Menoxide alarm should have been put in immediately. Just get a loud audible one from any good reputable hardware store.


Don't mind phone apps or what not.

Gen.Zhukov

wexfordman2 wrote: »

Sorry, I wasn't advocating not having a carbon monoxide alarm, jest that the features of that one are pretty crap, I would either go for a standard carbon monoxide alarm, or else a property smart carbon monoxide alarm, which this one is not

I wasn't suggesting you were

Lex Luthor

Don't get too hung up on the display, you don't need to know what the reading is...you just need to know if the level is dangerous or not
No beep - safe, beep - not safe
SF Detection units have a 6yr warranty, little more expensive than others but you are paying for the warranty
They nearly all have the same sensors anyway

Are you the only one in the house feeling this way?
Are you a smoker?

The Princess Bride

Go to your GP for a thorough check up.
Any time when your chest is feeling "very strange" is worth investigating.
On the way back buy a regular carbon monoxide alarm.

Snotty

wexfordman2 wrote: »

, then up a ladder you go,

Should a carbon monoxide alarm be on the roof???
I always thought knee levels or up to max 5ft from the ground.

Lex Luthor

Snotty wrote: »

Should a carbon monoxide alarm be on the roof???
I always thought knee levels or up to max 5ft from the ground.

Avoid placing on the ceiling

Also keep away from the source you suspect is possibly causing the CO

Place about 1-2ft from the ceiling on the wall on a wall that is not near a window or door

Snotty

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Avoid placing on the ceiling

Also keep away from the source you suspect is possibly causing the CO

Place about 1-2ft from the ceiling on the wall on a wall that is not near a window or door

So 6-7ft from the ground??
Unless you have a family of very tall people who are standing all the time, why would you select that hight?

Lex Luthor

Snotty wrote: »

So 6-7ft from the ground??
Unless you have a family of very tall people who are standing all the time, why would you select that hight?

CO is only slightly lighter than air so would typically go up but its marginally lighter

The gas will generally disperse through the air in your room

Its not going to go to the floor if that's what you are thinking

If you don't believe somebody who has been working in the gas detection industry for the last 17 years, then google it my friend

If you are detecting for Oxygen depletion in a room, then yes the sensors are typically mounted maybe 1-1.2m above ground level as generally they are in rooms where the oxygen is being displaced by gases typically heavier than air like N2, but its not the case when detecting for CO

wexfordman2

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Avoid placing on the ceiling

Also keep away from the source you suspect is possibly causing the CO

Place about 1-2ft from the ceiling on the wall on a wall that is not near a window or door

Thats really good to know, thanks

Snotty

Lex Luthor wrote: »

CO is only slightly lighter than air so would typically go up but its marginally lighter

The gas will generally disperse through the air in your room

Its not going to go to the floor if that's what you are thinking

If you don't believe somebody who has been working in the gas detection industry for the last 17 years, then google it my friend

If you are detecting for Oxygen depletion in a room, then yes the sensors are typically mounted maybe 1-1.2m above ground level as generally they are in rooms where the oxygen is being displaced by gases typically heavier than air like N2, but its not the case when detecting for CO

Good to know, thanks, I was told to put them at the high of the occupants of the room, so in the main TV room, it is at head hight when you are sitting down. Should I move it higher? Also is in the corner of the wall OK or should it be the middle.

Lex Luthor

Snotty wrote: »

Good to know, thanks, I was told to put them at the high of the occupants of the room, so in the main TV room, it is at head hight when you are sitting down. Should I move it higher? Also is in the corner of the wall OK or should it be the middle.

I'd be inclined to place it more on the middle of the wall than in a corner and you should probably put it up a bit higher (1-2ft from ceiling)

Even though the gas is only slightly lighter than air, it will disperse into the room in a random way...

But its recommended to put it up a bit higher and away from windows or doors

Stoner

Would a nest protect do the job?

Dtp1979

The only correct location for a carbon monoxide alarm is the location that is given in the manufacturers instructions specific to the model being used. Ei do a good alarm.
On a side note, whatever cowboy installed the stove should’ve installed a carbon monoxide alarm too, and a vent in the wall. It’s regulation for a start.
Get a competent installer in to check the job out and have a CO room test done

Mikewalsh

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Avoid placing on the ceiling

Also keep away from the source you suspect is possibly causing the CO

Place about 1-2ft from the ceiling on the wall on a wall that is not near a window or door

Doesn't building regulations say to mount on ceiling in room with stove?

Dtp1979

Mikewalsh wrote: »

Doesn't building regulations say to mount on ceiling in room with stove?

Yes. He means don’t fit it directly over the stove

cnoc

Dtp1979 wrote: »

The only correct location for a carbon monoxide alarm is the location that is given in the manufacturers instructions specific to the model being used. Ei do a good alarm.
On a side note, whatever cowboy installed the stove should’ve installed a carbon monoxide alarm too, and a vent in the wall. It’s regulation for a start.
Get a competent installer in to check the job out and have a CO room test done

How high or low should the vent be fitted?

Dtp1979

cnoc wrote: »

How high or low should the vent be fitted?

Height doesn’t matter as far as I know. It depends more on vent size, how much air the stove uses, room size, other air using products etc