When will Fibre to cabinet go faster?

fasterbetter

Hi

I have eircom fibre to the cabinet which comes into the house on the original copper phone wires.

I've had this at least 3 years and it has been pretty faultless..very reliable.

I understand the max speed supported is 100Mbps down and 20Mbps up.

Does anyone know when this speed limit is likely to increase...i.e. I assume the Huawei kit in the cabinets can be upgraded with new modules? Are there any plans for this?

The competition (Virgin) is offering 200Mbps and 300Mbps and keen to see if there is ever likely to be an increase in the speed available to the typical house in Dublin Suburbs via Eir?

(I'm assuming fibre to the home is not happening in typical dublin suburbs?)

thanks

fasterbetter

ED E

From German

In Supervectoring (Supervectoring 35b) is the youngest development of VDSL2 standards. Alternative names are VDSL Annex Q or Vectoring Plus or V Plus. [1] The procedure is standardized by the ITU-T under the stipulated VDSL2 profile 35b (ITU-T G.993.2 Annex Q). [2] [3]

You might get SV in 2019, but you really really dont want it.

It just gives them more time to not give you FTTH which will be 10GPON at that point. The sooner they swallow the nasty pill and get optical drops the better for you.


Virgin can go a lot faster with EURODOCSIS3.0. It may push them to act on the burbs.

The Cush

fasterbetter wrote: »

Does anyone know when this speed limit is likely to increase...i.e. I assume the Huawei kit in the cabinets can be upgraded with new modules? Are there any plans for this?

As Ed E said above, Supervectoring is the next step and according to a source they have asked Comreg for permission to test it in the field.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=104240809#post104240809

The Cush wrote: »

So the technology is Hauwei's SuperVector solution, up to a bandwidth of 35MHz, Profiles 17a & 35b (G.993.2 Annex Q).

http://www.huawei.com/en/news/2016/10/Large-Capacity-SuperVector-Solution
http://carrier.huawei.com/en/technical-topics/fixed-network/super-vector

Looks like an interim high speed, lower cost solution for FTTC areas to compete with SIRO's urban FTTH rollout while eir rollout FTTH to rural areas. Haven't seen a distance vs. speed comparison for SuperVector as against regular vectored VDSL2. Alcatel-Lucent (now Nokia) developed a similar technology called Vplus.

jca

There was talk about pair bonding (using 2 copper pairs per premises) has that been scrapped? I think it was supposed to give a top speed of 150meg

ED E

jca wrote: »

There was talk about pair bonding (using 2 copper pairs per premises) has that been scrapped? I think it was supposed to give a top speed of 150meg

Far too many drops would need replacing + main cable capacity I suspect.

loyatemu

does nothing for the many urban/suburban lines that are getting < 30 Mb/s. What's proposed for these - G.Fast?

The Cush

loyatemu wrote: »

does nothing for the many urban/suburban lines that are getting < 30 Mb/s. What's proposed for these - G.Fast?

<30 Mbps = NBP intervention area

fasterbetter

OP here

ok thanks for that information... I won't get my hopes up for anything soon!!

Gonzo

can current vectored FTTC go faster than 100/20 on the uploads?

Just wondering as in Australia they have 100/40 with their FTTN which I presume is the same technology as FTTC here just a different name?

loyatemu

The Cush wrote: »

<30 Mbps = NBP intervention area

is that the case for individual streets and buildings in urban areas? Plenty of homes here in Greystones can't get 30Mb/s because they're exchange fed on the end of a long loop, in areas that haven't been cabinetised and don't have Virgin etc. There are also places where the cabinets are full. I doubt the NBP will be covering them.

Maybe Eir or Siro will get FTTH to them eventually but (in urban areas) they seem to be concentrating on low-hanging fruit, newish estates with accessible ducts.

illingworth22

FYI I have to top UPC/Virgin package 360 Mb and I very rarely get above 100 Mb download, the only thing I did notice was the upload went from 24 to 36Mb..... Dublin 11

ED E

illingworth22 wrote: »

FYI I have to top UPC/Virgin package 360 Mb and I very rarely get above 100 Mb download, the only thing I did notice was the upload went from 24 to 36Mb..... Dublin 11

I can almost guarantee you thats either wireless or a 10/100 NIC.

Virgin users nearly always get 95% of the advertised rate.

red_bairn

ED E wrote:

Virgin users nearly always get 95% of the advertised rate.

Because of the NIC or wireless?

I have a wired connection and have never had drops in speed.