Started new job, salary lower than agreed

nkav86 · 13-12-2017 6:12pm #1

So, I started a new job this week as office admin. Turns out I'm actually going to be working as account admin, OK no problem I can do that. Today they sent my contract, they've lowered my salary by 1,000 and my position title is stated as office admin. I'm not happy at all about this, but am unsure if I should push on it. Any advice is welcome!

Akrasia · 13-12-2017 6:16pm

nkav86 wrote: »

So, I started a new job this week as office admin. Turns out I'm actually going to be working as account admin, OK no problem I can do that. Today they sent my contract, they've lowered my salary by 1,000 and my position title is stated as office admin. I'm not happy at all about this, but am unsure if I should push on it. Any advice is welcome!

You should definitely bring it up to HR. If they start screwing you over at this stage they'll never stop, and you'll never be satisfied in your role

nkav86 · 13-12-2017 6:21pm

Akrasia wrote:

You should definitely bring it up to HR. If they start screwing you over at this stage they'll never stop, and you'll never be satisfied in your role

I'm meeting with him Friday, I haven't signed it. I don't want to under those circumstances, but I'm anxious as hell that they'll rescind the offer

Maglight · 13-12-2017 6:25pm

Did you get an offer in writing before you accepted and started the job?

KeithTS · 13-12-2017 6:25pm

I would imagine it's an honest mistake.
Nobody in their right mind would try pulling a fast one like that and hope they would get away with it.

exaisle · 13-12-2017 6:26pm

Do not accept any salary if the amount is incorrect. Accepting salary constitutes acceptance of the contract even if it isn't signed..

Oops69 · 13-12-2017 6:29pm

Absolutley bring this up , your fears about the offfer being retracted , when you think about it are probably not evidence based , I agree it’s probably a mistake but you need to clarify this before you start working with a source for resentment already festering away .

Avatar MIA · 13-12-2017 6:32pm

What title did you think it was going to be?

How was your starting salary agreed?

In future (I know, hindsight is 20/20) get the contract in advance of starting.

nkav86 · 13-12-2017 6:34pm

Maglight wrote:

Did you get an offer in writing before you accepted and started the job?

I got a formal offer in an email.

KeithTS wrote:

I would imagine it's an honest mistake. Nobody in their right mind would try pulling a fast one like that and hope they would get away with it.

He wrote that the salary has been lowered, is this alright? I told him that I wanted to meet with him and discuss it.

nkav86 · 13-12-2017 6:36pm

Avatar MIA wrote:

What title did you think it was going to be?

Avatar MIA wrote:

How was your starting salary agreed?

Avatar MIA wrote:

In future (I know, hindsight is 20/20) get the contract in advance of starting.

I know, it was a stupid mistake not getting the contract! The title in the job description and job offer was office admin. He told me over the phone when offering the job and in email confirming the formal job offer.

Avatar MIA · 13-12-2017 6:37pm

nkav86 wrote: »

I got a formal offer in an email.

He wrote that the salary has been lowered, is this alright? I told him that I wanted to meet with him and discuss it.

Thanks for asking, and that's a no. I'll be sticking to the formal offer, including title.

HOWEVER, in future get the contract in advance.

Good luck

Avatar MIA · 13-12-2017 6:38pm

nkav86 wrote: »

I know, it was a stupid mistake not getting the contract! The title in the job description and job offer was office admin. He told me over the phone when offering the job and in email confirming the formal job offer.

Okay, it's only the €1k difference so. They should back down.

nkav86 · 13-12-2017 6:39pm

Avatar MIA wrote:

Thanks for asking, and that's a no. I'll be sticking to the formal offer, including title.

Avatar MIA wrote:

HOWEVER, in future get the contract in advance.

I know, silly mistake on my part. I'm awful at these things, but I'm so annoyed with this change

nkav86 · 13-12-2017 6:40pm

Avatar MIA wrote:

Okay, it's only the â‚¬1k difference so. They should back down.

Feckin hope so, job title/change doesn't bother me think I'll actually enjoy it. But the salary has really annoyed me. Thanks for all the advice everyone, really appreciate it

Sleeper12 · 13-12-2017 7:13pm

An agreement is an agreement. Regardless of the job title they should pay the agreed salary

nkav86 · 13-12-2017 7:17pm

Sleeper12 wrote:

An agreement is an agreement. Regardless of the job title they should pay the agreed salary

I agree, I'm going to be firm about it Friday.

s7ryf3925pivug · 13-12-2017 11:11pm

Insist on the salary. Also apply for other jobs. Very bad sign.

nkav86 · 14-12-2017 6:17am

Santana Early Feet wrote:

Insist on the salary. Also apply for other jobs. Very bad sign.

The more I think about it the more it's bothering me, you might be right

Victor · 14-12-2017 6:33am

They expect you to hustle customers. You need to hustle them.

Cushie Butterfield · 14-12-2017 9:15am

€1000 is €1000.

Even after deductions it would go a long way towards covering car insurance/electricity/gas etc

Don’t let this go!

Speedwell · 14-12-2017 9:21am

Cushie Butterfield wrote: »

€1000 is €1000.

Even after deductions it would go a long way towards covering car insurance/electricity/gas etc

Don’t let this go!

Absolutely right, and at the end of the day it can probably be traced back to someone writing the wrong number down on a form they don't want to refile. Easier for them to say "oh it's really THIS" instead of just redoing the paperwork. Sad and lazy, but I've seen it happen more than once.

Stick to your guns. You were promised what you were promised. If they pull out the old "well then we'd have to do it for everyone", then tough cookies, they can explain to "everyone" that they had to make an exception for you.

Duckjob · 14-12-2017 9:26am

A company that would try to pull a fast one like that especially at the start of a new relationship isn't a company I would want to work for or with. In business I've cut customers of mine loose for trying to pull similar sh*te.

I suppose how much of an issue you take with it depends on your on financial circumstances.

bucketybuck · 14-12-2017 9:29am

Speedwell wrote: »

Absolutely right, and at the end of the day it can probably be traced back to someone writing the wrong number down on a form they don't want to refile. Easier for them to say "oh it's really THIS" instead of just redoing the paperwork. Sad and lazy, but I've seen it happen more than once.
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No, the OP has said that he was specifically told the salary was being lowered.

How far are you prepared to push this OP? Because I know if it was me it would be a short conversation, I get the salary agreed or i immediately walk out the door.

Forget the money, the principle is important here, what they have done is outrageous and if you bend over and take it then you will probably find it to be the first of many times they treat you like a fool.

Sort that ****e out now or you will regret it further down the line.

nkav86 · 14-12-2017 11:22am

I've emailed hr and said the position I took and the position I am required to do are 2 different things and I'd like my contract to reflect this. And that the agreed upon salary is not something I'm prepared to deviate from especially considering I've already accepted and started the position. He said we'll talk tomorrow.

Avatar MIA · 15-12-2017 10:46am

nkav86 wrote: »

I've emailed hr and said the position I took and the position I am required to do are 2 different things and I'd like my contract to reflect this. And that the agreed upon salary is not something I'm prepared to deviate from especially considering I've already accepted and started the position. He said we'll talk tomorrow.

You still gainfully employed?

LirW · 15-12-2017 10:52am

Out of curiousity: Is it a permanent contract and are you employed with the company or an agency?
I had a big well known company trying to pull a fast one on me in a similar matter and that was also in the stage of signing the contract,I just didn't work for them already. I kindly told them that we're not going to have a future together.

nkav86 · 15-12-2017 1:09pm

Avatar MIA wrote:

You still gainfully employed?

As of right now, haven't met with him yet, but I'll be sure to update lol

LirW wrote:

Out of curiousity: Is it a permanent contract and are you employed with the company or an agency? I had a big well known company trying to pull a fast one on me in a similar matter and that was also in the stage of signing the contract,I just didn't work for them already. I kindly told them that we're not going to have a future together.

Employed by the company directly, there's a probation period but a permanent position if that makes sense

nkav86 · 15-12-2017 4:52pm

Update: I've spoken to him, and he explained budget was a concern. I repeated that I'd want to stick to my original salary offer and he agreed. So its sorted. Back to 3m probation period. My job title will be office admin as many tasks the previous person did have been outsourced, in a way. I'm happy with the outcome, and thanks everyone for the advice and support

Snake Plisken · 15-12-2017 4:59pm

nkav86 wrote: »

Update: I've spoken to him, and he explained budget was a concern. I repeated that I'd want to stick to my original salary offer and he agreed. So its sorted. Back to 3m probation period. My job title will be office admin as many tasks the previous person did have been outsourced, in a way. I'm happy with the outcome, and thanks everyone for the advice and support

Just keep the CV up to date and your ear to the ground for other jobs in case he says to you at the end of the 3 month probation that they have to leave you go due to budget issues.

nkav86 · 15-12-2017 5:35pm

Snake Plisken wrote:

Just keep the CV up to date and your ear to the ground for other jobs in case he says to you at the end of the 3 month probation that they have to leave you go due to budget issues.

Good advice, thank you

Avatar MIA · 15-12-2017 6:43pm

nkav86 wrote: »

Good advice, thank you

Plus you know you're unlikely to be getting massive annual increases. Congrats on the job, now as the saying goes, work towards your next one.

OldMrBrennan83 · 15-12-2017 6:48pm

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dubrov · 15-12-2017 8:01pm

Snake Plisken wrote:

Just keep the CV up to date and your ear to the ground for other jobs in case he says to you at the end of the 3 month probation that they have to leave you go due to budget issues.

If he gets let go after 3 months, his CV would already be up to date.

I wouldn't be adding work experience for a role lasting less than 3 months. It opens up all sorts of questions that are difficult to answer.

bucketybuck · 15-12-2017 8:25pm

nkav86 wrote: »

Update: I've spoken to him, and he explained budget was a concern. I repeated that I'd want to stick to my original salary offer and he agreed. So its sorted. Back to 3m probation period. My job title will be office admin as many tasks the previous person did have been outsourced, in a way. I'm happy with the outcome, and thanks everyone for the advice and support

Its sorted.

Except for the fact that no reputable boss or company would ever unilaterally change an agreed salary in the way that he did, nobody in their right mind would ever think that was acceptable.

You have been given a huge red flag about this person and that company, I wouldn't ignore that.

Started new job, salary lower than agreed

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