Bad press caused by certain types of Cyclists

jon1981

I'm surprised this wasn't posted yet. Being a daily cyclist in Dublin city I see this rule breaking all too often. Unlike the comments attached to this video on FB I don't think he got what he deserved and don't wish him harm, but he certainly got a lesson.

I do however feel tarred by this tool.

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/deliveroo-cyclist-taxi-dublin/

DirkVoodoo

Do you think every motorist feels tarred by the following:

"Got passed within 1m by a car speeding up Kill Ave doing about 80 in a 50 zone. Undertaking in the bus lane. Caught him at the lights, winds down his window. Proper scumbag head on him. I said don't do that again, he goes "what are ya ****in' gonna do about it?" So I cycle over to the left at bakers corner into the bike lane. Light goes green, I hear wheelspin and his car shoots over from the right lane, across the car to my right and ends up right in front of me before he veers right again and speeds off down the road."

Probably not. Yeah, the guy was a tool, but why does that damage one supposed collective and not the other? Part of the media brainwashing in this country.

jon1981

Motorists are the majority when in comes to road usage, so either the don't criticise each other enough or the media as you allude to only focus on cyclist behaviour.

A collective minority will always be more reputationally damaged when members of that collective step out of line. Pure ignorance.

07Lapierre

While cycling in this morning I stopped at all red traffic lights... even the pedestrian lights while nobody was crossing. I’ve no doubt every motorists who witnessed this still thinks all cyclists are muppets!

Chips Lovell

07Lapierre

Yep “Gonzo” that’s me! 👍

Macy0161

FFS, no helmets or hi viz!

axer

There really should be a higher penalty for those who break the rules of the road to gain an advantage which benefits them financially e.g. dilveroo, couriers and taxis etc - both car and pedal powered.

magicbastarder

from what i hear, being a deliveroo delivery cyclist isn't that financially advantageous anyway.
i saw a comment on facebook when this was posted by stickybottle that deliveroo provide their cyclists with helmets. any truth in this? they certainly don't seem to provide them with lights. i suspect if they did so it'd be an admission that they have a duty of care to their employees (or whatever deliveroo call them) and that would be anathema to them.

Effects

Spotted a Deiveroo cyclist on francis st last week using his feet to slow down. As I passed I noticed his rear brake were was totally knackered, front probably in a similar state. I can't stand most of them. I still feel sorry for them.

Effects

Macy0161 wrote: »

FFS, no helmets or hi viz!

The jacket and bag are reflective so that probably counts.

cython

Effects wrote: »

The jacket and bag are reflective so that probably counts.

I think that post was a facetious reply to this one below, nothing to do with deliveroo

Baron de Charlus wrote: »

P_1

Had a ninja Deliveroo rider on what looked like a fairly decent bike cut me off on North Strand earlier

Effects

cython wrote: »

I think that post was a facetious reply to this one below, nothing to do with deliveroo

Totally! I'm on a go slow today.

LollipopJimmy

magicbastarder wrote: »

from what i hear, being a deliveroo delivery cyclist isn't that financially advantageous anyway.
i saw a comment on facebook when this was posted by stickybottle that deliveroo provide their cyclists with helmets. any truth in this? they certainly don't seem to provide them with lights. i suspect if they did so it'd be an admission that they have a duty of care to their employees (or whatever deliveroo call them) and that would be anathema to them.

They are all self employed, purely to dance around the rules regarding minimum wage. Deliveroo as a business is just exploitation of people desperate for work

Arcade_Tryer

axer wrote: »

There really should be a higher penalty for those who break the rules of the road to gain an advantage which benefits them financially e.g. dilveroo, couriers and taxis etc - both car and pedal powered.

Why specify a financial benefit and dismiss all other potential benefits?

Presume that this policy would also apply to all bicycle commuters.

nak

My commute is outside the city centre and the bulk of cyclists I see running red lights are club members in lycra. I'm pretty much the only one who stops. Lot of car drivers do it too, especially early in the morning when fewer people are on the roads.

I was in a taxi headed to the airport around 7am and the taxi driver started giving out about the "crazy courier" cycling in front of us. He had no idea bike couriers didn't work at that time or in that part of the city and just assumed every cyclist with a bag was working on the road.

axer

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Why specify a financial benefit and dismiss all other potential benefits?

Presume that this policy would also apply to all bicycle commuters.

I would include those who are directly incentivised to break the law. Those who make money out of doing short runs such as taxis and couriers (car and pedal driven) get direct financial benefits from constantly cutting corners and hence why they are the ones that stick out the most by far for being the worst road users out there. Bicycle commuters tend to make just two trips in the day and are not directly incentivised to break the law i.e. in general they may get into work a little earlier or home a little earlier but that is different to making more money. I would certainly agree with all road users being held accountable for breaking the rules of the road and for dangerous driving/cycling etc. But it definitely is clear that taxi drivers and bicycle couriers/delivery people are by far the worst offenders.

While I think it would be great to see being done I understand in reality it wouldn't be practical - couriers/taxi and delivery drivers would be possible to identify but there would be grey areas that would mean some drivers who should be included are hard to identify e.g. those who go from site to site fixing things like plumbers etc who would benefit financially from getting to more jobs in the day.

LollipopJimmy

I've actually spent the morning looking into Deliveroo, we have had previous employees apply to some of the jobs I have worked on this year. It seems, to match what you would earn working in a minimum wage job you would need to be able to cycle as fast as your average F1 car.

Macy0161

axer wrote: »

But it definitely is clear that taxi drivers and bicycle couriers/delivery people are by far the worst offenders.

I'd include motorbike delivery people too. They're the worst offenders for mandatory cycle lane offences by motorbikes*, and I regularly see them using footpaths/ pedestrian routes around my workplace.

*Cyclone the worst, which is ironic as I saw them getting kudos on facebook for supporting safe passing with decals on their vans over the weekend!

AndrewJRenko

jon1981 wrote: »

I'm surprised this wasn't posted yet. Being a daily cyclist in Dublin city I see this rule breaking all too often. Unlike the comments attached to this video on FB I don't think he got what he deserved and don't wish him harm, but he certainly got a lesson.

I do however feel tarred by this tool.

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/deliveroo-cyclist-taxi-dublin/

Presumably like most cyclists, you drive as well. As a driver, do you feel tarred by this tool?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni3SrvDLSJc