Sony: We Cannot Ignore The Nintendo Switch

sligeach · 07-12-2017 8:52am #1

Sony: We Cannot Ignore The Nintendo Switch
How does Sony plan on dealing with the Switch?

https://gamingbolt.com/sony-we-cannot-ignore-the-nintendo-switch

He doesn't really give a lot away, like how they're going to combat Nintendo but it is an admission from them that the Switch is a threat to them big time, especially in Japan. The Switch there has passed 2.5 million in sales after the numbers from yesterday's Media Create figures. I think the Wii U managed just over 3 million over its lifetime.

Edit: The Wii U's lifetime sales in Japan are 3.32 million.

CiDeRmAn · 07-12-2017 9:20am

sligeach wrote: »

Sony: We Cannot Ignore The Nintendo Switch
How does Sony plan on dealing with the Switch?

https://gamingbolt.com/sony-we-cannot-ignore-the-nintendo-switch

He doesn't really give a lot away, like how they're going to combat Nintendo but it is an admission from them that the Switch is a threat to them big time, especially in Japan. The Switch there has passed 2.5 million in sales after the numbers from yesterday's Media Create figures. I think the Wii U managed just over 3 million over its lifetime.

Edit: The Wii U's lifetime sales in Japan are 3.32 million.

Seeing as they have no portable in the market anymore, wouldn't it make even more sense and a lot more money if they released Sony properties to the Switch??
Certainly, they could target releases that aren't aimed at the PS4/Pro and push them onto the Nintendo format.
Could be a real money spinner for them, if they had the bottle.

Star Lord · 07-12-2017 9:24am

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Seeing as they have no portable in the market anymore, wouldn't it make even more sense and a lot more money if they released Sony properties to the Switch??
Certainly, they could target releases that aren't aimed at the PS4/Pro and push them onto the Nintendo format.
Could be a real money spinner for them, if they had the bottle.

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I see what you've done there!

fixXxer · 07-12-2017 9:28am

Oooh the Vita back catalogue available on the Switch.... Maybe... maybe even Persona 4 (The greatest RPG ever made)????

/flustered/

Pac1Man · 07-12-2017 9:51am

Gravity Rush 3 on the Switch!? :eek:

CiDeRmAn · 07-12-2017 9:58am

Let's start the rumour now!

edit:

Will Never Happen

MilesMorales1 · 07-12-2017 10:08am

I wouldn't say no to some kind of PS4 switch console, but I imagine apart from the cost, it'd be pretty impossible to create right now. And I wouldn't buy another pure portable from Sony after what they did to the vita.

CiDeRmAn · 07-12-2017 10:24am

But PS3 standard titles are perfectly possible on the Switch, and with it that massive catalogue of titles on the system.
If you can get Doom onto the Switch, no reason you couldn't see Bloodborne either.

Still won't happen

fixXxer · 07-12-2017 10:30am

I imagine we could get either remote play or access to PlayStation Now. Either would be easy for Sony to do if they had the inclination.

sligeach · 07-12-2017 10:31am

I can see the names if they do make something similar to the Switch.

Sony Swap
Sony Swindle
Sony Shift
Sony Steal

Maybe add a hat to make it look a bit different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOgZwk9rN8

CiDeRmAn · 07-12-2017 11:06am

sligeach wrote: »

I can see the names if they do make something similar to the Switch.

Sony Swap
Sony Swindle
Sony Shift
Sony Steal

Maybe add a hat to make it look a bit different.

Sounds like a Mario Odyssey tie-in fo-sho!
Maybe an Amiibo too!

super_furry · 07-12-2017 11:10am

Well whatever they do I'm sure they won't launch it with a proprietary memory card that's hugely overpriced and cripples their digital plans from launch.

Mr E · 07-12-2017 11:40am

Mod: Sony discussion extracted from News and Releases thread.

MilesMorales1 · 07-12-2017 11:55am

super_furry wrote: »

Well whatever they do I'm sure they won't launch it with a proprietary memory card that's hugely overpriced and cripples their digital plans from launch.

And they also won't abandon the 1st party support before the thing even comes out and then drop it completely when their fancy new home console comes out.

Sephiroth_dude · 07-12-2017 12:03pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Seeing as they have no portable in the market anymore,.

*cough* vita *cough*

:pac:

Retr0gamer · 07-12-2017 12:24pm

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

*cough* vita *cough*

:pac:

The console for terrible romantic VN lovers.

I'm actually hoping this puts a fire under the arse of Sony. So far they are just coasting with the PS4. Why try harder when you are number 1. All they have to do is not be as awful as Microsoft.

It's left the PS4 as pretty much as one of the worst consoles I've owned.... well other than the CDi, and I own a virtual boy. It's got very little in the way of worthwhile exclusives. In less than a year the Nintendo Switch has come along and become a far better prospect than the PS4. Hopefully it means Sony will start funding more and less safe exclusives for the system. The PS3 was terrible as well but it's last few years redeemed it and then some.

fixXxer · 07-12-2017 12:36pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

The console for terrible romantic VN lovers.

I'm actually hoping this puts a fire under the arse of Sony. So far they are just coasting with the PS4. Why try harder when you are number 1. All they have to do is not be as awful as Microsoft.

It's left the PS4 as pretty much as one of the worst consoles I've owned.... well other than the CDi, and I own a virtual boy. It's got very little in the way of worthwhile exclusives. In less than a year the Nintendo Switch has come along and become a far better prospect than the PS4. Hopefully it means Sony will start funding more and less safe exclusives for the system. The PS3 was terrible as well but it's last few years redeemed it and then some.

Hey the CDi was worth it for The 7th Guest and Burn Cycle alone!

CiDeRmAn · 07-12-2017 2:35pm

fixxxer wrote: »

Hey the CDi was worth it for The 7th Guest and Burn Cycle alone!

Jaysus, the CDi was the worst console ever.
There's more fun to be had with one of those Amstrad things, or even an Xbox One!

fixXxer · 07-12-2017 2:43pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Jaysus, the CDi was the worst console ever.
There's more fun to be had with one of those Amstrad things, or even an Xbox One!

It also had the most unique Zelda game until Breath of the Wild.

ShadowHearth · 07-12-2017 2:50pm

If sony wants to battle switch, then they are between hard place and a rock.

Sony consumers used to powerful console, so theu cant just down grade and offer switch type device as main lineup. That will be giving xbox one monopoly too.
They cant make a separate handheld, because with switch we are getting used to idea of proper full console games in a form of hadheld.

So I dont know how will sony battle this.

Pac1Man · 07-12-2017 3:22pm

Sony should stay in their lane. The Switch has shown them and MS that high powered triple A glitz and glamour isn't everything.

That's a great thing.

Gaming during this gen, while prettier, has barely moved in terms of ingenuity (obvious handful of titles aside).

iamtony · 07-12-2017 3:29pm

Suppose a vita 2 could Dock and be played on the TV fairly easy. If they could get the inners of a ps4 in a switch size device and play all the ps4 games they could be on to a winner. I'd buy it!

fixXxer · 07-12-2017 3:48pm

iamtony wrote: »

Suppose a vita 2 could Dock and be played on the TV fairly easy. If they could get the inners of a ps4 in a switch size device and play all the ps4 games they could be on to a winner. I'd buy it!

Cost and the size of the battery required make this pretty unlikely. With the PS4 Pro they're heading more graphically demanding, not less.

Banjo · 07-12-2017 4:04pm

Who makes the video chipset in the PS4/Pro?
Just that there's the next chip up from nVidia which is optimised for mobile but more powerful than the switch (X2? K2? A letter, then a 2) - so you could have a mobile platform that your PS4pro can stream to, that can throw it's output to an app running on a Sony TV (and allow it on a Chromecast or something like that) and have a PS4 controller that splits in half and sticks to the sides of 1024p bezeless screen...?

CiDeRmAn · 07-12-2017 4:13pm

The gas thing is, Sony just don't make games for portable formats, just look at the lack of interest in the Vita outside of the niche products in the last two years.
I mean, all things being equal Sony should be just able to repeat the work that makes owning a PS3/4 essential, but it just doesn't stick.
And the Vita wasn't without great games, from Wipeout to.... oh I'm sure I'll think of something!

iamtony · 07-12-2017 4:16pm

fixxxer wrote: »

Cost and the size of the battery required make this pretty unlikely. With the PS4 Pro they're heading more graphically demanding, not less.

Yes but like pc games the performance could be optimised for the power/battery life the machine has.
I'm sure if a few years ago someone would of told you that a system with more power than the Wii U was going to be released in a handheld device you would of told them to keep dreaming.

iamtony · 07-12-2017 4:23pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

The gas thing is, Sony just don't make games for portable formats, just look at the lack of interest in the Vita outside of the niche products in the last two years.
I mean, all things being equal Sony should be just able to repeat the work that makes owning a PS3/4 essential, but it just doesn't stick.
And the Vita wasn't without great games, from Wipeout to.... oh I'm sure I'll think of something!

The PSP before it had a lot of success though and I think the vita was marketed poorly. I'd guess it's like a Wii u and not many people even know it exists.
I think the big draw is being able to play your console games on the go and not something made separately that's kind of like it. Exactly like the switch has.

ShadowHearth · 07-12-2017 4:50pm

OSI wrote: »

Developers are already having to develop games for 2 different hardware configurations in the PS4 and PS4 Pro, really wouldn't surprise me to see a portable that offered a 3rd hardware option with similar architecture to allow for devs to create games that are playable across all 3 systems.

My point is that we are used to full games, not portable cut down versions like ps vita did. If sony can make switch type handheld and have full ps4 games on it like switch does it, then holy crap batman, I would be throwing money at sony.

I got vita at launch and I was so excited about it. Until it was clear that even games were coming to it, they were very horrible cut down versions of normal games. I loved vita as device, but I played my 3ds, but I hated the hardware.

5rtytry56 · 07-12-2017 5:08pm

Echoing the last poster's sentiments I once owned a PSP portable. Support never really solidified, even though I even bought 2 mini DVDs for it - man on fire and Donnie brasco. Ultimately I gave the PSP away. So I then bought a Nintendo 3ds xl. No movies sold for this device but better games playability.

MilesMorales1 · 07-12-2017 5:11pm

PSP had loads of support though, from all kinds of studios and 1st party stuff, even though UMD's died pretty quick. Vita died so fast in fact, it barely made an impact at all, and quickly became a niche games/indie machine.

Corholio · 07-12-2017 5:19pm

Am I the only one who thinks that statement is just a generic one and wasn't alluding at all to any portable competition? Sony don't need to make one at all, there's room for both as this year has shown and Sony burned themzelves too much with their portable devices. Microsoft are in a much trickier position imo.

Retr0gamer · 07-12-2017 5:20pm

Vita was sent out to die by Sony. No marketing and barely any support. They just didn't know what to do with it. They had a handheld coming out that had no place existing in a world of smartphones.

AMKC · 07-12-2017 5:56pm

The Switch to me is a disappointment. After the Wii it just seems like the lazy thing to do. The nephew has one and was showing me all the bits. There is not that much to it really its just a handheld computer that you can play on your TV. Not that new really sure Sony done it with the PSP. I like Nintendo have had the Cube the Wii both were brilliant computers and there handheld computers were brilliant computers but I just don't see what people see or think is so great about the Switch. To me its a big disappointment.

MilesMorales1 · 07-12-2017 6:04pm

AMKC wrote: »

The Switch to me is a disappointment. After the Wii it just seems like the lazy thing to do. The nephew has one and was showing me all the bits. There is not that much to it really its just a handheld computer that you can play on your TV. Not that new really sure Sony done it with the PSP. I like Nintendo have had the Cube the Wii both were brilliant computers and there handheld computers were brilliant computers but I just don't see what people see or think is so great about the Switch. To me its a big disappointment.

But its completely different to the PSP, and neither are computers, they are game consoles.

fixXxer · 07-12-2017 6:07pm

AMKC wrote: »

The Switch to me is a disappointment. After the Wii it just seems like the lazy thing to do. The nephew has one and was showing me all the bits. There is not that much to it really its just a handheld computer that you can play on your TV. Not that new really sure Sony done it with the PSP. I like Nintendo have had the Cube the Wii both were brilliant computers and there handheld computers were brilliant computers but I just don't see what people see or think is so great about the Switch. To me its a big disappointment.

It suits a lifestyle for a lot of people where they can play games at times that suits them better than being tied to a TV, with the added bonus of fitting in with TV time too. It helps that it already has some fantastic games available so early in its life cycle.

CiDeRmAn · 07-12-2017 6:33pm

AMKC wrote: »

The Switch to me is a disappointment. After the Wii it just seems like the lazy thing to do. The nephew has one and was showing me all the bits. There is not that much to it really its just a handheld computer that you can play on your TV. Not that new really sure Sony done it with the PSP. I like Nintendo have had the Cube the Wii both were brilliant computers and there handheld computers were brilliant computers but I just don't see what people see or think is so great about the Switch. To me its a big disappointment.

You might find your use of the device disappointing but you'll find that the vast majority of voices of Switch owners are overwhelmingly positive about the console, both in terms of what it plays and how you can play it.

AMKC · 07-12-2017 11:55pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

You might find your use of the device disappointing but you'll find that the vast majority of voices of Switch owners are overwhelmingly positive about the console, both in terms of what it plays and how you can play it.

I don,t have one my nephew has and is addicted to it. Its not for me I am not into downloading games. He even was struggling to get it to download some games. The game I seen was nothing special maybe if there is a Star Wars or Starfox or a GTA game on it then it might be interesting.

wtlltw · 08-12-2017 1:59am

AMKC wrote: »

I don,t have one my nephew has and is addicted to it. Its not for me I am not into downloading games. He even was struggling to get it to download some games. The game I seen was nothing special maybe if there is a Star Wars or Starfox or a GTA game on it then it might be interesting.

It’s sad that the appearance of GTA on a console would suddenly make It interesting. (Sony will release a new handheld with GTA exclusive lol)

CiDeRmAn · 08-12-2017 10:44am

AMKC wrote: »

I don,t have one my nephew has and is addicted to it. Its not for me I am not into downloading games. He even was struggling to get it to download some games. The game I seen was nothing special maybe if there is a Star Wars or Starfox or a GTA game on it then it might be interesting.

I would imagine then that the entire current crop of home consoles is not for you, seeing as downloading games from their respective digital store fronts is where it's at, not to mention to online components of modern titles and the need for a download as the games, across all formats, receive updates.
And, re GTA, why would having a franchise that is already available on four consoles, PS3/4+360/XBOne, not to mention the PC, make the Switch "interesting"?
It's already interesting.
Breath of the Wild is a game of the year, as is Super Mario Odyssey, not to mention Arms, Splatoon 2 and a heap of others.

Kinda unfortunate you are basing your entire judgement of a format on having a go of your nephew's Switch.

764dak · 13-09-2018 2:18am

The Vita can play over 1400 Vita games as well as many PS1 and PSP games. Sony marketed it poorly and many gamers believe that it "has no games."

764dak · 13-09-2018 2:23am

wtlltw wrote: »

AMKC wrote: »

I don,t have one my nephew has and is addicted to it. Its not for me I am not into downloading games. He even was struggling to get it to download some games. The game I seen was nothing special maybe if there is a Star Wars or Starfox or a GTA game on it then it might be interesting.

It’s sad that the appearance of GTA on a console would suddenly make It interesting. (Sony will release a new handheld with GTA exclusive lol)

Rockstar released GTA games on GBC, GBA, DS, and PSP but not for 3DS or Vita. Maybe they dislike handhelds now.

Sony: We Cannot Ignore The Nintendo Switch

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