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Thoughts on the Mitsubishi Outlander phev

  • 06-12-2017 10:34am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭


    I'm doing a lot of town driving of late and this is probably going to continue into 2018 so I'm considering trading in my beloved Mazda 6 2.2ltr diesel.

    I like the look of the outlander, but I suppose I'm a little hesitant at the same time as I've never had an EV.

    I do a daily drive of Blanchardstown to town each day which is the main reason for considering the change.

    As far as I can make out from my research is that I'll do that on the battery alone which will save me money and take me away from diesel filter issues that do come with town driving.

    For longer spins though what's the mpg on the petrol end?

    Also how's the room in the back in comparison to the Mazda 6? Could an adult fit between two car seats?

    I'll be buying second hand if I go for it do any issues I need to know about?

    It'll probably be a 2014 model.

    Thoughts / advice appreciated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,639 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    MPG reported as approx 40-42 on petrol only mode online.
    You'll get 22-30 miles on EV only mode (this will vary on driving style, as with all EV)
    Roomier than my leaf in the back, when I went to look at one it looked like it would take 3 adults in comfort so I assume 2 car seats + 1 adult would work.

    I suggest going to Phil in Electric Autos as they have one in stock at the moment if you're interested. (No connection to the company myself, just a happy customer!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    I'd imagine rear seats are comparable to the Mazda6 in terms of size.

    Do you have a way of charging it at home, or are you planning on getting a charger installed? You really need home charging to make good use of a PHEV.

    Apparently there was a facelift in 2015 that made improvements to the interior, which seems to be the most common complaint (just general layout and quality not great).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    I'd imagine rear seats are comparable to the Mazda6 in terms of size.

    Do you have a way of charging it at home, or are you planning on getting a charger installed? You really need home charging to make good use of a PHEV.

    Apparently there was a facelift in 2015 that made improvements to the interior, which seems to be the most common complaint (just general layout and quality not great).

    I'd defiantly get a home charger.

    Surprised to hear 40mpg approx for petrol. That's about 10mpg better than I expected!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Soarer


    My ol' fella picked up his Outlander PHEV yesterday in the UK, and got it home to Cork for 3am this morning.
    It's a 2016 G3Xh.
    It was the garage's own car from new, and has about 40k miles. FSH, etc.
    Got it for £15k! That was the asking price. No wiggle room, but they did fill it with petrol and collected him from the station. Came with Granny and AC cables.
    VRT is less than €1500 I think he said.
    So it'll be on the road for ~€18k.

    Looks like this one (from memory).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    Soarer wrote: »
    My ol' fella picked up his Outlander PHEV yesterday in the UK, and got it home to Cork for 3am this morning.
    It's a 2016 G3Xh.
    It was the garage's own car from new, and has about 40k miles. FSH, etc.
    Got it for £15k! That was the asking price. No wiggle room, but they did fill it with petrol and collected him from the station. Came with Granny and AC cables.
    VRT is less than €1500 I think he said.
    So it'll be on the road for ~€18k.

    Looks like this one (from memory).

    OGYxYzgxMDBkZTYxNjU2MDE1YWNiM2U2ZGVhNjVkYTfmoEbHKztu1wkpWrhdXe7taHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b184ODI5ODE2MXx8fDYwMHg2MDB8fHx8fHx8fA==.jpeg

    NzQ2NTkwMmVmMTkxMDc3NmU2MmM2YzVmOTU0MWViYjSm774YiDhJjpDZyeXqPYp5aHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b184ODI5ODE2NXx8fDYwMHg2MDB8fHx8fHx8fA==.jpeg

    Very nice well wear and all that.

    Unfortunately I'll have a car to trade in. Not going to through the hassle of a private sale so I'll have to buy here.

    Seemingly it's the most popular car in the UK. There was a big rebate or something from the government there. Was 5k I think it's half that now though. Still nice though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Just clarified with himself.
    First reg was 18th December 2015, so actually 152.
    Thought she was 161.
    Which she nearly is, but isn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    Soarer wrote: »
    Just clarified with himself.
    First reg was 18th December 2015, so actually 152.
    Thought she was 161.
    Which she nearly is, but isn't.

    Beauty of a car. I'm jealous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 berocore


    Soarer wrote: »
    My ol' fella picked up his Outlander PHEV yesterday in the UK, and got it home to Cork for 3am this morning.
    It's a 2016 G3Xh.
    It was the garage's own car from new, and has about 40k miles. FSH, etc.
    Got it for £15k! That was the asking price. No wiggle room, but they did fill it with petrol and collected him from the station. Came with Granny and AC cables.
    VRT is less than €1500 I think he said.
    So it'll be on the road for ~€18k.

    Looks like this one (from memory).

    OGYxYzgxMDBkZTYxNjU2MDE1YWNiM2U2ZGVhNjVkYTfmoEbHKztu1wkpWrhdXe7taHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b184ODI5ODE2MXx8fDYwMHg2MDB8fHx8fHx8fA==.jpeg

    NzQ2NTkwMmVmMTkxMDc3NmU2MmM2YzVmOTU0MWViYjSm774YiDhJjpDZyeXqPYp5aHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b184ODI5ODE2NXx8fDYwMHg2MDB8fHx8fHx8fA==.jpeg

    congrats to your new car - very good price you paid. These cars are going between £18k-£20k by looking at website. Great purchase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    I'd defiantly get a home charger.

    Surprised to hear 40mpg approx for petrol. That's about 10mpg better than I expected!

    It still functions as a series-parallel hybrid once you turn off "EV Drive" mode (or battery is depleted), so would still be more efficient than a normal petrol equivalent. In hybrid mode it will maintain a lower state of charge by either charging from the engine (when efficient to do so, or if battery gets too low) and from regenerative braking, and will use the electric motors or the ICE (or both combined) to drive the wheels, changing depending on speed and load conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭goz83


    Very nice well wear and all that.

    Unfortunately I'll have a car to trade in. Not going to through the hassle of a private sale so I'll have to buy here.

    Seemingly it's the most popular car in the UK. There was a big rebate or something from the government there. Was 5k I think it's half that now though. Still nice though

    The phev are silly money over here. Even taking a big hit for a quick private sale, you’d do well to go the uk. Much better choice and better spec too. The gx4h is the better spec with sat nav and leather.


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  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My Partner got the 7 seater diesel version , a U.K car got from Westbrook Motors in Dublin, great car but I wanted her to get the PHEV but she wanted the 7 seats.

    The cost was actually around the same as the diesels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Lovely car, I would have bought one only it hasn't the 7 seats in the hybrid model....

    If going from blanch into town your best option to be honest is full electric. I did that drive for years and it is a disaster, traffic no matter what way you turn.....

    On the hybrid I would guess you would make it into town on a full charge but it would kick into hybrid mode after that so using some petrol. I have friends who have 3 hybrids(Lexus, CHR, Prius+). In town driving in hybrid mode you are more or less getting the same MPG you would get out of a diesel on motorway driving. Very average way to work it out. Of course for the trip in you should run on battery full as it is PHEV.

    I classify hybrid mode as when the battery if empty and the petrol engine needs to kick in

    I can ask them what they get from motorway if you want? the Prius+ would probably be similar size/weight(bit smaller) but a good guide

    Also talk to Phil in Electric Autos, he is bringing them in all the time....he will take your old car as well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    My Partner got the 7 seater diesel version , a U.K car got from Westbrook Motors in Dublin, great car but I wanted her to get the PHEV but she wanted the 7 seats.

    The cost was actually around the same as the diesels.

    From what I have heard, the diesel is hard on juice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I can ask them what they get from motorway if you want? the Prius+ would probably be similar size/weight(bit smaller) but a good guide

    The RAV4 Hybrid would be closest to the Outlander, and is available in 4WD too. The US EPA rating for that is 38 MPG (imperial) or 7.4 l/100km, and US EPA ratings are often on the pessimistic side - but a hell of a lot more realistic than the NEDC bullshít we were getting here. Outlander PHEV isn't sold over there so no direct comparison, unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,639 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    The RAV4 Hybrid would be closest to the Outlander, and is available in 4WD too. The US EPA rating for that is 38 MPG (imperial) or 7.4 l/100km, and US EPA ratings are often on the pessimistic side - but a hell of a lot more realistic than the NEDC bullshít we were getting here. Outlander PHEV isn't sold over there so no direct comparison, unfortunately.
    Rav 4 you say?
    If I can't have a first gen NiMh Rav4EV, then I'd love this (after fitting optional JDemo conversion)

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Toyota-RAV4-EV-FWD-4dr/272963822635?epid=178363269&hash=item3f8de9642b:g:iNAAAOSwVtZaIYsM&vxp=mtr

    Note to self: Must keep that link to show people who say there's no reasonably priced EV SUV


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    From what I have heard, the diesel is hard on juice

    it will do about 33 Mpg with herself driving 140 Kph on the motorway and if I drive it I can get about 35-37 Mpg but a lighter foot on a longer trip at 90-100 could see 40 odd Mpg but in reality it's a big enough car and has decent poke and she likes it and that's all it's costing her is diesel as she bought it outright.

    The Petrol Plug in has the potential to do much better mpg as if you can keep the battery topped up, it's a shame she didn't get it but she couldn't care less what powers a car really she has no interest in EV or cars in general but her old Kia Cee'd estate was starting to cost so it had to go.

    She averaged about 6.7 L/100 Kms in the Cee'd and about 8.5 L/100 km in the much larger more powerful Outlander so yes it's hard enough on juice but it's not a huge amount extra to pay over her commute.


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