Brake discs/brake pads

SpodoKamodo

My wife brought her car in for a service (2013 Hyundai i30) and was told front and rear brake pads and rear discs needed replacing. Price quoted from garage was 637 Eur (dealership).
Price was broken down as follows (exclude VAT):
Front:
Brake Pads 96 Eur
Labour 87 Eur

Rear:
Brake Pads 62 Eur
Discs 92 Eur (x2)
Labour 131 Eur

Is this in any way reasonable? Seems very expensive.

Toyotafanboi

Hyundai OEM brake components (and service parts generally) are seriously expensive. You'd do the job independently for close to half that i'd say. That said if you like the dealer and you just want it done, it doesn't sound out of line for a main dealer quote and they won't be getting fat off that either.

This is something Hyundai need to address IMO for the sake of their customers and dealers.

enumbers

As above sounds like a pretty standard dealer quote , dealer parts are very expensive from Hyundai, decent independent
would be between half and 2/3 rds of that price with quality equivalent parts.

Cee-Jay-Cee

If you bought the parts yourself and got an Indy mechanic to fit them it’d cost less than €300. If you could do it yourself less than €200.

Dakota Dan

Get a second opinion, you know what happens when a garage man sees a woman coming in the door.

Toyotafanboi

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Get a second opinion, you know what happens when a garage man sees a woman coming in the door.

To be fair, that's really nothing more than scaremongering.

The price quoted for the work, while relatively expensive compared to other sources, sound perfectly in line for a main dealer quote and in no way artificially inflated for a female customer.

colm_mcm

Those prices are standard Hyundai prices. Note that a price from an on Hyundai garage is likely to be for the likes of blueprint or other budget brand so it mightn’t be a fair comparison.

mickdw

While the price is expensive, it's a typical main dealer price.
The more important question here is whether the work actually needs doing.
Fair enough the pads are likely in the way out however dealers are very fond of replacing very slightly worn discs.
An independent garage may find the discs perfectly serviceable.
If that was the case, replacing front and back pads even with genuine parts would be less than half the cost

166man

Doesn't look wildly out of order for a main dealer tbh. Dealers are fond of replacing rear discs though so they may be perfectly serviceable for another while yet which an independent might reduce the bill by.

If the cars in warranty, ring around and price independents and figure out if the extra €300 odd is worth shelling out for OEM parts and the receipt in the service history.

George Dalton

The 2 posters above mention that main dealers are fond of replacing brake discs. However it is also true to say that a lot of smaller garages are fond of fitting a set of new pads to a set of knackered discs. We see it every day of the week.

166man

George Dalton wrote: »

The 2 posters above mention that main dealers are fond of replacing brake discs. However it is also true to say that a lot of smaller garages are fond of fitting a set of new pads to a set of knackered discs. We see it every day of the week.

I don't doubt it George, I merely mentioned it as I did see it first hand where discs at the rear were advised for replacement, and they were not close to needing replacement. There's always two sides to the story though of course.

mickdw

George Dalton wrote: »

The 2 posters above mention that main dealers are fond of replacing brake discs. However it is also true to say that a lot of smaller garages are fond of fitting a set of new pads to a set of knackered discs. We see it every day of the week.

True enough and that is certainly a worse tactic however main dealers do take the piss. Last I heard BMW will fit new discs with each set of pads on all models bigger than 3 series.
And the audi spec for replacement of discs on my car is half that as specified by the actual disc manufacturer as being it's wear limit. Now I'm aware that any specific installation might result in different wear limits being specified whether it be due to brake caliper / carrier design or heavier car etc but half the wear would appear to be playing it very much on the piss taking side of safe.

khaldrogo

Dakota Dan wrote:

Get a second opinion, you know what happens when a garage man sees a woman coming in the door.

I have worked in the motor trade for 20 yrs, in all aspects of the after sales department. In my experience this does not happen. If anything I/we go out of our way to explain issues in detail to anyone who doesn't have a good knowledge of mechanics be it man or woman. I/we make sure the person is comfortable with what we are doing and most importantly they made the choice.

That said, main dealer prices are silly.

khaldrogo

Discs have min thicknesses. It's easy to measure. Many Indy mechanics don't measure and go by eye. Then 6 months later when the customer comes to me with a noise when braking I replace the badly worn, in some cases dangerous, discs and of course new pads too.

The only way to correctly determine if brake discs need to be replaced is to find what the min thickness is and measure the disc to see where it falls. Most discs have a life of only 2mm and roughly 1/2mm is used per set of pads in my experience.

padyjoe

4 year old car and already needs all in brake replacement? :eek: She must be some racer! :cool:
If everything goes well, the front eats 2-3 sets of pads up before the disc worn out(in an ideal world). I don't get it why the rear one has to go as well, it does much less work compared to front.