Skoda Kodiaq 1.4L petrol - big car small engine

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Seems like a very big car for a that size engine, even if it's just tipping around the city.

How would that size engine handle occasional long distance trips?

Casati

Phoebe Modern Sympathizer wrote: »

Seems like a very big car for a that size engine, even if it's just tipping around the city.

How would that size engine handle occasional long distance trips?

I’d say your right as it’s only the 125bhp. If you want petrol maybe check out the Tiguan 1.4 as that has 150bhp and makes a big difference

colm_mcm

It’s got a turbo to be fair so it’ll probably be ok.

SmithySeller

Kodiaq has the 150 too! Independent tests have it doing 40mpg (long term test) and it does 0-60 in circa 10seconds. Its fine!

Comhrá

SmithySeller wrote: »

Kodiaq has the 150 too! Independent tests have it doing 40mpg (long term test) and it does 0-60 in circa 10seconds. Its fine!

I have an A4 with that engine and it has plenty of power (at least for my needs) with around 35mpg in town and 45-48 on the long runs. Nice quiet, smooth engine too.

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Comhra wrote: »

I have an A4 with that engine and it has plenty of power (at least for my needs) with around 35mpg in town and 45-48 on the long runs. Nice quiet, smooth engine too.

The Kodiaq is a 7 seater! How would it fare with a full load?

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Casati wrote: »

I’d say your right as it’s only the 125bhp. If you want petrol maybe check out the Tiguan 1.4 as that has 150bhp and makes a big difference

Tiguan doesn't have 7 seats...

bazz26

Yes it does:

https://www.volkswagen.ie/en/models/tiguan-allspace.html

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bazz26 wrote: »

Yes it does:

https://www.volkswagen.ie/en/models/tiguan-allspace.html

I don't think it's available in Ireland until next year and looks like it's more expensive.

Vico1612

I've got a diesel 150 so can't comment but know a UK group with a few 1.4 owners.
PM me if you want details.

bazz26

Check the spec on both as when both are speced similarly then there might not be a huge difference in prices.

Casati

Phoebe Modern Sympathizer wrote: »

I don't think it's available in Ireland until next year and looks like it's more expensive.

I doubt any car is going to be registered until next year at this stage. It’s available to order with the excellent 1.4 150ps in base trim.

I was sure the Kodiaq was only 125ps but it’s looks like you can get the 150ps ACT engine if you go for the DSG but as it’s almost the same price as the 2.0 TDI DSG you won’t see many of them around

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Casati wrote: »

I doubt any car is going to be registered until next year at this stage. It’s available to order with the excellent 1.4 150ps in base trim.

I was sure the Kodiaq was only 125ps but it’s looks like you can get the 150ps ACT engine if you go for the DSG but as it’s almost the same price as the 2.0 TDI DSG you won’t see many of them around

I thought diesels were so 2014?

mloc123

People need to stop thinking about engines in litres and look at PS. I heard RTEs Paul Reynolds scoffing at Conor McGregors i8 "only a 1.5" on the news during the week... A 1.5 that produces over 200PS IIRC?

Mycroft H

I think he was taking the piss out of McGregor to be honest.

GustavoFring

Mycroft H wrote: »

I think he was taking the piss out of McGregor to be honest.

Yeah, and it topped off that soap opera nicely too:pac:

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Casati wrote: »

I doubt any car is going to be registered until next year at this stage. It’s available to order with the excellent 1.4 150ps in base trim.

I was sure the Kodiaq was only 125ps but it’s looks like you can get the 150ps ACT engine if you go for the DSG but as it’s almost the same price as the 2.0 TDI DSG you won’t see many of them around

Why would you go for a 2.0 over the 1.4?

Casati

Phoebe Modern Sympathizer wrote: »

I thought diesels were so 2014?

Only on boards.ie , in the forecourts, roads and driveways it’s still diesel!

Casati

Phoebe Modern Sympathizer wrote: »

Why would you go for a 2.0 over the 1.4?

You’ll have to ask the Kodiaq buyers that question, v few of them are buying petrol of any sort

Lantus

The trend for engines is small high pressure units with turbos. Skoda do a 1 litre engine for their Octavia which is great.

The engine power is the only real metric of any use.

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Casati wrote: »

I’d say your right as it’s only the 125bhp. If you want petrol maybe check out the Tiguan 1.4 as that has 150bhp and makes a big difference

Is the general consensus that the 125bhp petrol is not a suitable size engine for this car?

The 150 version bumps the entry level price up by another €4k.

Casati

Phoebe Modern Sympathizer wrote: »

Is the general consensus that the 125bhp petrol is not a suitable size engine for this car?

The 150 version bumps the entry level price up by another €4k.

It will be fine for most day to day driving and even full of passengers it will be happy driving at 120kmph all day on the motorway. It won’t have that extra poke for overtaking but it depends on what you are driving now whether or not you find it fast enough

The 150 ACT engine as well as being a lot more powerful, is a lot more economical as it has cylinder deactivation under low stress/ low rev’s

Tiguan All Space base model has the 1.4 150 engine and if buying pcp should be cheaper than the Kodiaq as VW offer 0.9% apr versus 5.9%. A lot of dealers are selling the Kodiaq at full retail where as the VW dealers are more likely to discount too. I’m not sure when the All Space are available but they have been on the configurator for some time

Leonard Hofstadter

123 bhp in something the size of a Kodiaq is going to struggle bigtime - turbo or no turbo.

Get the 148 bhp model, 25 extra horsepower will make a big difference - and since it has ACT it will use a little less fuel as well.

I struggle to believe that a 1.0 litre engine in a car the size of the Octavia will work - it may be great on paper and looking good in the EU emissions tests and deliver the all-important low road tax - but how long will the engine last?

I bet it's not going to do 250,000+ miles in its stride like an older non-turbo petrol engine would - frankly if it made it to even 250,000 km without developing a major problem I'd consider it a result.

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captainspeed wrote: »

123 bhp in something the size of a Kodiaq is going to struggle bigtime - turbo or no turbo.

Get the 148 bhp model, 25 extra horsepower will make a big difference - and since it has ACT it will use a little less fuel as well.

I struggle to believe that a 1.0 litre engine in a car the size of the Octavia will work - it may be great on paper and looking good in the EU emissions tests and deliver the all-important low road tax - but how long will the engine last?

I bet it's not going to do 250,000+ miles in its stride like an older non-turbo petrol engine would - frankly if it made it to even 250,000 km without developing a major problem I'd consider it a result.

But my mileage would be very low, about 10,000 km per year...

Del2005

mloc123 wrote: »

People need to stop thinking about engines in litres and look at PS. I heard RTEs Paul Reynolds scoffing at Conor McGregors i8 "only a 1.5" on the news during the week... A 1.5 that produces over 200PS IIRC?

Lantus wrote: »

The trend for engines is small high pressure units with turbos. Skoda do a 1 litre engine for their Octavia which is great.

The engine power is the only real metric of any use.

That's great till you're trying to pull out onto a busy road and the turbo isn't spinning so you have no power to get onto the road, even more fun if there's a bit of a slope from the road you are on to the road you want to join, that's when you need torque and that's only from displacement.

DaveyDave

Del2005 wrote: »

That's great till you're trying to pull out onto a busy road and the turbo isn't spinning so you have no power to get onto the road, even more fun if there's a bit of a slope from the road you are on to the road you want to join, that's when you need torque and that's only from displacement.

The torque is available from 1,400 revs on the 1.4 TSI engine and the power is also available at low revs. The 125hp will move a Kodiak 0-100kph in just over 10 seconds so it's not exactly a slouch. While it might not have as much torque as a diesel, TSI engines have a decent torque for a petrol and it's available almost instantly. You'd be doing close to 1,400 revs just rolling in stop start traffic so if you're getting ready to pull out, it's there.

While it is a big car, it has adequate power. It's faster than a lot of the smaller cars out there that take 13-15 seconds to get to 100kph.

Lantus

Del2005 wrote:

That's great till you're trying to pull out onto a busy road and the turbo isn't spinning so you have no power to get onto the road, even more fun if there's a bit of a slope from the road you are on to the road you want to join, that's when you need torque and that's only from displacement.

Ah come on! All cars are more than capable of this in 1st gear. The tiny amount of additional power from stationary won't allow you to pull out any more often. How close are these other cars that a few horses are needed to avoid a collision?

Does everyone else now need improved brakes to compensate? No because it doesn't happen. There is a huge range of cars on the road and most have very similar speed and acceleration characteristics within a fairly wide margin.

I drive the 1.2 version and it's faster than my old 1.4 golf at all speeds and smoother.

mloc123

Del2005 wrote: »

That's great till you're trying to pull out onto a busy road and the turbo isn't spinning so you have no power to get onto the road, even more fun if there's a bit of a slope from the road you are on to the road you want to join, that's when you need torque and that's only from displacement.

You have not driven a modern turbo petrol engine?

That was the case 10-20 years ago, turbo kicked in around 3k.. not now.

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Del2005 wrote: »

That's great till you're trying to pull out onto a busy road and the turbo isn't spinning so you have no power to get onto the road, even more fun if there's a bit of a slope from the road you are on to the road you want to join, that's when you need torque and that's only from displacement.

How did people survive 20 years ago with sub 100bhp family saloons ... were they all killed pulling out on to main roads.

The amount of nonsense you read on these threads is nuts !!

SmithySeller

Casati wrote: »

You’ll have to ask the Kodiaq buyers that question, v few of them are buying petrol of any sort

That's definitely true but perhaps not for the reason you think. I asked about one though in October and was told to expect delivery in July or August 2018. They could have a Diesel by the end of 2017 for 181 reg.
Similar story with Peugeot. Big lead time on the Petrols and not available in some trims.

MetzgerMeister

mloc123 wrote: »

People need to stop thinking about engines in litres and look at PS. I heard RTEs Paul Reynolds scoffing at Conor McGregors i8 "only a 1.5" on the news during the week... A 1.5 that produces over 200PS IIRC?

The i8 produces 356 bhp.

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MetzgerMeister wrote: »

The i8 produces 356 bhp.

Took the 1.4 petrol for a test drive. Nice but if you want automatic with a couple of extras the price jumps up to €42k which creeping into Discovery Sport territory and potentially an XC 90 if the repoartage is true.

MetzgerMeister

Phoebe Modern Sympathizer wrote: »

Took the 1.4 petrol for a test drive. Nice but if you want automatic with a couple of extras the price jumps up to €42k which creeping into Discovery Sport territory and potentially an XC 90 if the repoartage is true.

Oh right....the BMW Discovery i8.....:pac:

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MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Oh right....the BMW Discovery i8.....:pac:

Not a bad deal actually