Choice of bull

Looney1

i have 20 black limousin 5 star heifers for breeding next year. was thinking of synchro and ai. would ye chance an easy calving limo or stick to an aa in first year. any recommendations appreciated

wiggy123

what age they-also size/weigh! to me--I'd use Angus...

Looney1

wiggy123 wrote: »

what age they-also size/weigh! to me--I'd use Angus...

will be 26 months calving. should be 400kg breeding

wiggy123

go angus.. that's me though!

Hard Knocks

Looney1 wrote: »

wiggy123 wrote: »

what age they-also size/weigh! to me--I'd use Angus...

will be 26 months calving. should be 400kg breeding

I’d try an easy calving LM, <4% CD such as EBY @ Dovea

patsy_mccabe

Have a look thr0ugh them and maybe use the easy calving lim bulls only on the bigger, more developed heifers with the wider hips.

TITANIUM.

Stay away from those pricks of Angus anyway.
Plenty of AI limos available that are suitable for Heifers

wiggy123

harsh words titanium

croot

Looney1 wrote: »

i have 20 black limousin 5 star heifers for breeding next year. was thinking of synchro and ai. would ye chance an easy calving limo or stick to an aa in first year. any recommendations appreciated

It depends on if there is a market locally for AA. Here in the North West they sell quite well.

I know some on here have a serious problem with AA but I had 6 this year from 1st calvers. They were all born in Feb/March and were between 340kg to 410kgs when sold. Averaged 2.35 per kg which inst bad this year.

All the mothers were back in calf within 6 weeks so in my opinion AA or Saler are both great options for a heifer calving at 24mths. I would use Lm on heifers if they had the size though.

Bellview

Hard Knocks wrote:

I’d try an easy calving LM,

Mogeely Joe would be only angus I would use..if you plan to keep their daughters you will have a polled daughter save on de horning

wiggy123

MLJ, do hear getting low in numbers... is plenty good angus bulls out there.folk can use

Looney1

wiggy123 wrote: »

MLJ, do hear getting low in numbers... is plenty good angus bulls out there.folk can use

anyone use gizmo

wiggy123

hear he's producing good stock, easy calved +early gestation

charolais0153

Ive a nice heifer from aa2025

tellmeabit

Looney1 wrote:

anyone use gizmo

I have him on a nice white charollais hef, be calving after Xmas. Regret it but just want her to calf away herself this year as want sure if I was around when she be calving.be interesting to see what we get. Will put up pics after Calving

Never wrestle with pigs

Zag lim, fifty cent sim,

charolais0153

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Zag lim, fifty cent sim,

Had a zag calf this morning. Small would be the best adjective. About 10 days before his time

Never wrestle with pigs

charolais0153 wrote: »

Had a zag calf this morning. Small would be the best adjective. About 10 days before his time

You won't know it in a few weeks.

Bitten & Hisses

Indeed. ZAG calves are small at birth, but very vigorous and thrive well.

50HX

using a lim on them they will throw black lim calves.....depending what part of the country you are in they will be treated like AA come sale time

what about HE

Who2

50HX wrote: »

using a lim on them they will throw black lim calves.....depending what part of the country you are in they will be treated like AA come sale time

what about HE

Not necessarily, I've a share of black limo cows and a high percentage come red. There isn't many will treat a limo as an aa and if they do it would at least treated as an exceptional aa.

Bellview

Looney1 wrote:

anyone use gizmo

Saw a few by him and looked ok but I have also heard a lot of poor cattle..so may be inconsistent... munster are pushing him a lot recently but munster angus are poor at the minute

Sheep breeder

Use gamin from bova on heifers here super handy calf and after 10 days shape up to U grade stock.have an eby calf out of a pure lim and not the quality of the gamin heifer born the same time out of similar Bred heifers

Looney1

slightly off the point. anyone have any opinions on red angus pedigree . was thinking of dabbling in a few pedigrees and thought they might be something slightly different

Bellview

Looney1 wrote:

slightly off the point. anyone have any opinions on red angus pedigree . was thinking of dabbling in a few pedigrees and thought they might be something slightly different

Popular for suckler especially Cross with limo as keep the red colour.
More a bull for suckler men than dairy as they are harder calving in general..always exceptions
They make good money as even at elite last week a red made 3500 and by red standard he was relatively light boned as off luddenmore fiona so more an accidental red rather than black.

wiggy123

red angus seem to be in vogue a bit at present