Octavia 1.6 or 2.0 diesel

rover777

I'm looking at pre owned Octavias at present.
Is there any advantage of getting the 2Ltd over the 1.6 diesel? thanks.

GustavoFring

Apart from the 1.6 being down on power the main difference is the 2 litre has a 6th gear. If you do a lot of high speed driving this will help economy and refinement. The 2l can still do very decent mpg in the right conditions too.

R.O.R

There is an awful drone from the 1.6 at motorway speeds. Fine engine for most driving, but that drone would do my head in day after day

Leonard Hofstadter

The 1.6 is quite slow, I'd be looking for the 2.0 if you can find one. 1.6 is 5 speed so will be louder on the motorway.

colm_mcm

Isn’t the 2.0 less prone to EGR failure ?

PaulKK

We have a 2016 1.6 110bhp.

It's perfectly adequate for most people I would say.

My only critique is that the fuel tank is tiny. I'd be surprised if it's more than 40L.

The 2.0 is obviously better but it's not going to set the world alight either.

For the cost difference between the 1.6 and 2.0, in this type of car the 1.6 110bhp was the one to go for for me. I used the cash to upgrade the seats etc instead of an extra 30bhp that you most likely won't notice day to day.

My own car is significantly faster than the skoda but I don't feel like the skoda is underpowered.

Zubeneschamali

PaulKK wrote: »

an extra 30bhp that you most likely won't notice day to day.

This depends on your driving style, I would certainly notice.

PaulKK

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

This depends on your driving style, I would certainly notice.

It depends on your usage. Most people don't floor it everywhere.

My own car has 163bhp and it can shift when it wants to but if I've got the kids in the car then obviously it doesn't matter if the car has 110bhp or 200bhp

Of course you notice if you're doing the traffic light grand prix but for the average punter it's perfectly adequate and by no means 'slow'. 30bhp extra is no good to you when you're sitting at traffic lights or sitting at 120/130km/hr with cruise control on on the motorway. That's why I specced the vrs style seats instead of more power.

At the end of the day it's a largish car most likely bought by families or people who need lots of boot space. Its not always about the most bhp, it's about practicality.

Zubeneschamali

PaulKK wrote: »

My own car has 163bhp and it can shift when it wants to but if I've got the kids in the car then obviously it doesn't matter if the car has 110bhp or 200bhp

As I said it depends on your style. My VRs has 184bhp and it matters even 4 up with the kids.

PaulKK

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

As I said it depends on your style. My VRs has 184bhp and it matters even 4 up with the kids.

I'm not trying to play top trumps here.

I'm just trying to point out that most people don't give a flying fiddler's about power.

The number of 1.6 passats, 316ds, 1.5/1.6 mondeos going around are a testament to this.

Incidentally my 163bhp car has a faster 0-100km/hr time than your vrs. Neither car is what I would class as powerful. I probably wouldnt buy anything that does 0-100 in over 8 seconds personally but I don't try and push my requirements on others.

If you want a powerful car then buy one. If you want a spacious, practical, reliable car that is good value then a 1.6 Octavia isn't a bad call.

Toyotafanboi

Our Golf which is similar to the Octavia is the 1.6 and it's perfectly competent.

It's no GTI but you wouldn't expect it to be. There's reasonable torque from idle upwards so it's nippy around town but it spends most of its life on the motorway, it does 120kmh @ 2000rpm in 5th year and will comfortably pull on from there to overtake without dropping a gear. I know we come to expect a 6 speed box these days but the 5 speed suits the car.

Personally I think it's quite quiet on the motorway, it's much more of a clatterbox around town but opinions will differ on that.

Having driven a few 2.0s around town at sensible speeds there isn't a huge difference, there is obviously a bit more like if you are driving enthusiastically and motorway cruising in 6th still sits at around 2000rpm at 120kmh so engine noise isnt a whole lot different. The 2.0 is a "nice to have" but I don't think it's worth a huge price premium.

Zubeneschamali

PaulKK wrote: »

I'm just trying to point out that most people don't give a flying fiddler's about power.

The number of 1.6 passats, 316ds, 1.5/1.6 mondeos going around are a testament to this.

Those are considerably cheaper than more powerful models. I can quite understand that people are on a budget and will focus on costs to the exclusion of power. But I don't believe for a second that anyone would not notice the difference between the 110, 140, 180 hp Octavias.

Once upon a time, there used to be performance cars like the Civic R, which had mad petrol engines you had to rev to 8000 rpm to extract full performance, but these days everything is a turbo and the power (or lack of it) is noticeable from low down in ordinary driving.

PaulKK

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Those are considerably cheaper than more powerful models. I can quite understand that people are on a budget and will focus on costs to the exclusion of power. But I don't believe for a second that anyone would not notice the difference between the 110, 140, 180 hp Octavias.

Once upon a time, there used to be performance cars like the Civic R, which had mad petrol engines you had to rev to 8000 rpm to extract full performance, but these days everything is a turbo and the power (or lack of it) is noticeable from low down in ordinary driving.

I'm kind of getting sick of arguing with you so I'll make this my last point.

I said people wouldn't notice an extra 30bhp in day to day driving. That's stuck in traffic, cruising along the motorway etc.

Of course people would notice a difference between the 180 and 110 from a pure performance point of view, because there is a difference. My point is that the majority of people are not concerned about power or it's not their main priority.

The 1.6 and 2.0 Octavia have quite a price difference too. Never mind the vrs.

The 1.6 is also surprisingly decent in traffic too, it has a light clutch etc. Much nicer to drive around town than my 3 series.

Zubeneschamali

PaulKK wrote: »

I said people wouldn't notice an extra 30bhp in day to day driving.

You did indeed say that, and you were wrong.

PaulKK

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

You did indeed say that, and you were wrong.

I'm not. You're just quoting part of my posts and ignoring the points I'm making.

I can't be arsed, I've better things to do so I'm done here.

Lantus

I'd say for the vast majority of drivers a smaller engine is more than adequate given that they travel during peak times when the difference in travel time between a supercar and normal car would be zero.

As you move away from the motorway network then overtaking power becomes more important.

So it is very much what you need on a day to day basis and not what I need.