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  • 29-11-2017 3:51am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭


    I rent 3 propertys, one was let at 1400 market rate is about 2300

    Asked one of them to move out in June so I could renovate and rerent (my fault I know) right away they stopped paying rent, almost December now, Adjudication order just came in post, tenant has 10 days now to appeal, which he will, so will be waiting for a tribunal date, he already told me in the adjudication he won't be leaving until the courts issue an enforcement order and I pay sheriffs to come with Guards which he stated would cost me 2k.

    When I mentioned pursuing him for the debt he replied, my bank account just got closed due to an outstanding overdraft, and its unlikely I can afford the rental prices now, so you might have to pursue me overseas.

    I'm down €8,400, the tenant transformed from a regular blue-collar guy to an ultra witty solicitor type, managed to have adjudications adjourned by showing up and stating the RTB left me liable to prejudicial handling of the dispute or some other ****e!!!

    He enjoys going to the RTB, I reckon I could have him for 12 more months!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    utmbuilder wrote: »
    he already told me in the adjudication he won't be leaving until the courts issue an enforcement order and I pay sheriffs to come with Guards which he stated would cost me 2k.
    It's nearly December. The month of forgiveness, and kindness.

    So have him evicted, change the locks and check with your solicitor how much time you have to give him to remove his stuff before you can toss it into a skip :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,101 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    the_syco wrote: »
    It's nearly December. The month of forgiveness, and kindness.

    So have him evicted, change the locks and check with your solicitor how much time you have to give him to remove his stuff before you can toss it into a skip :pac:

    You've got the correct month but a year too early. Changing the locks and dumping the tenants property will ad considerably to the OPs bills, unless they follow the correct procedure the tenant will get a substantial payment from the RTB.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    You can ask the RTB to pursue him for outstanding rent, bills and reparation for any damage caused to the property- however, its likely from what you've said that he would have a lien of a fiver a week put on his salary or income- some silly amount that would take years to clear an outstanding debt.

    Unfortunately- from your perspective- the system is setup to protect the tenant at any cost- regardless of what he or she does or does not do (including paying rent).

    Yes- it could cost you 2k (or more) to see the process through-however, that is simply what you're going to have to do.

    The system is at fault- and there is no will out there to recognise this- landlords are automatically evil and tenants are automatically entitled to do pretty much whatever the hell they want.

    Have a look at the RTB statistics- their caseload is now a majority of landlords pursuing tenants for non-payment of rent (its far overtaken their previous top category of complaint- which was landlords unfairly witholding deposits). The system is broken- and no-one cares- the politicians have scapegoats to point at- and god have mercy on the soul of anyone who tries to defend a landlord.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭utmbuilder


    the_syco wrote: »
    It's nearly December. The month of forgiveness, and kindness.

    So have him evicted, change the locks and check with your solicitor how much time you have to give him to remove his stuff before you can toss it into a skip :pac:


    I thought about this, but I wouldn't feel safe, the last inspection I went to , he had 2 jeep loads of men parked outside the house.

    He has clear signs of wealth from what he drives and the furnishings in the house, hes too much, I reckon he could be dodgy, I thought about going to the gaurds but with what, me not liking him and thinking his watch costs too much :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Get talking to a solicitor who specialised in housing issues now, you have to have everything 100% to evict. The slightest mistake will end up with starting the whole process again. It's going to costs you thousands more if you don't. You can get a eviction order fast tracked. And let him know you will 100% be following through, even if it's a fiver a week. The sheriff is very good at recovering money from anybody with ties to the country.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Del2005 wrote: »
    You've got the correct month but a year too early. Changing the locks and dumping the tenants property will ad considerably to the OPs bills, unless they follow the correct procedure the tenant will get a substantial payment from the RTB.
    Ah. Read the OP as he had gone through the process already; my bad.


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