Border Change

Nonagesimal

Dear All,

Does anyone have an exact date of when the border changed in Co.Roscommon in 1898? The town of Ballaghaderreen was tranfered from County Mayo to County Roscommon.I would be greatful if somebody knows?

Thank you.

Claw Hammer

Nonagesimal wrote: »

Dear All,

Does anyone have an exact date of when the border changed in Co.Roscommon in 1898? The town of Ballaghaderreen was tranfered from County Mayo to County Roscommon.I would be greatful if somebody knows?

Thank you.

Seems to have been 25th March 1899.
LOCAL GOVERNMENT (IRELAND) ACT 1898

CHAPTER XXXVII.

An Act for amending the Law relating to Local Government in Ireland, and for other purposes connected therewith.[1] [12th August 1898.
124.—(1) Subject as in this Act mentioned, this Act shall, in each administrative county, come into operation as to rural district councils and guardians on the twenty-fifth day of March, and as to county councils and urban districts on the first day of April, and as to all other matters on the first day of April next after the passing thereof, or on such other day, not more than twelve months earlier or later, as in any case the Local Government Board (but after the election of county councillors for such county, on the application of the county council) may appoint, either generally or with reference to any particular provision of this Act, and different days may be appointed for different purposes and different provisions of this Act, whether contained in the same section or in different sections or for different counties, and where any particular day is appointed for any particular provision of this Act coming into operation, that provision shall not come into force until the day so appointed.

(2) Provided that the enactments relating to the registration of local government electors, or to the elections, or to any matter required to be done for the purpose of bringing this Act into operation on the appointed day, shall come into effect on the passing of this Act.

(3) A reference in any enactment of this Act to the appointed day shall mean the day upon which such enactment comes into operation.

nuac

B'hadreen changed from Mayo to Roscommon by local landlord to avail of lower rates.

Not recognised by many, including local GAA, who still play with Mayo

Nonagesimal

Thank you Claw Hammer and Nuac for taking your time on this. I really appreciate your help. Thank you.

Claw Hammer

Technically there was not in fact a change. The County of Roscommon was created by the Act of 1898. The previous County was a "judicial County" run by a grand jury. The new administrative County of Roscommon was formed from some of the previous judicial County of Roscommon less areas around Ballinasloe and Athlone and with the addition of half the Barony of Costello. The GAA at that time had only been formed 15 years previously and the winning club team represented the County in the All Ireland. The reluctance to have areas transferred from one administrative County to another at the moment is ironic considering the Counties were a British imposed system. The natural geographic areas in Ireland are the Diocese which were formed on the basis of the tribal divisions in Ireland.

panchosanza

The borders were specified by statutory orders of the Local Government Board for Ireland on 1 November 1898:
1898 No.867 (Mayo)
1898 No.870 (Roscommon)

The Local Government Board for Ireland's annual report for 1898-99 is available on the Internet Archive here.

tabbey

The GAA has always been a law unto itself, regarding boundaries.

London in Connaught, Galway in Leinster ( at least for hurling).