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3 x AH bans

  • 26-11-2017 5:44pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭


    Hi I have 3 AH bans to dispute. The first 2 I didn't dispute at the time as I was caught up with some real life stuff. Should I dispute separately or together. The third ban for 3 months will likely reference the earlier bans which I would
    have disputed at the time had I more time to think it through.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Have you attempted to discuss / resolve the bans with the mods in question?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    dudara wrote: »
    Have you attempted to discuss / resolve the bans with the mods in question?

    Yeah and was directed here. I think this latest 3 month ban over a thread I started was particular harsh. I seem to be being targeted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    BAN THREE for dispute


    From: Conspectus
    Date: 26/11/2017 | 17:41
    You can dispute any cards or bans you want. As far as I know you need to start a seperate dispute for every card/ban but you can pm an admin to ask them that to be sure.





    To: Conspectus
    Date: 26/11/2017 | 17:38
    It wasn't a trolling thread. It's actually a true situation believe or not. Anyway looking at some recent threads I'm not sure why you're picking on me e.g.

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057813503/1/#post105383147

    I'm not sure what you have against me but i haven't broken any rules.

    Can I start a dispute thread on this ?



    From: Conspectus
    Date: 26/11/2017 | 17:21
    You were told twice and banned for starting stupid trolling threads. You don't seem to be getting the message.

    Quote: Jobs OXO
    Can you advise what rule I have broken? Per charter "After hours is the place to come on boards where general discussion can be light-hearted. The aim here is to have a bit of a laugh and not to piss anybody off while doing so."


    From: Conspectus
    Date: 26/11/2017 | 16:52
    Dear Jobs OXO,

    You have been banned from After Hours for three months for ignoring a moderator's instructions.

    Discussion can become heated, we don't object to that, but when a moderator issues a warning on a thread to reign things in, it stops a heated discussion from turning into a mess.

    For more information please refer to the Boards.ie FAQ.

    If you wish to appeal this ban you can see details on how to do so here.

    Conspectus

    Moderator Note

    Next ban is permanent.

    Your post:Quote: Jobs OXO
    My new bird nips really really hard when we're going at it. Lips,nose, shoulders.....she's actually drawn blood ! But scared tbh. Haven't let her get too close to the sex stick with the gnashers which isn't right. Anyone have a partner that just bites too much?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    BAN TWO for dispute

    This was a lighthearted joke in the spirit of AH or so I thought. Didn't dispute at the time as was caught up with real life stuff.



    From: Conspectus
    Date: 01/10/2017 | 00:23
    Dear Jobs OXO,

    You have been banned from After Hours for one month for Trolling.

    This means you are posting in an intentionally provocative fashion in order to gain a reaction from other members. This is disruptive and causes stress to other members.
    We don't want that here.

    For more information please refer to the Boards.ie FAQ.

    If you wish to appeal this ban you can see details on how to do so here.

    Conspectus

    Moderator Note

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=104838964#post104838964

    You were already told about posting sh!te.

    Your post:Quote: Jobs OXO
    Despite it being as clean as a whistle she's just not on for playing the sexy flute tonight. What can I do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    BAN ONE for dispute


    I was drunk when I posted this. I tried to explain to the mod who wasn't agreeing. I should have done a dispute for the severity at the time but didn't.


    From: ancapailldorcha
    Date: 02/09/2017 | 09:26
    Dear Jobs OXO,

    You have been banned from After Hours for five days for Trolling.

    This means you are posting in an intentionally provocative fashion in order to gain a reaction from other members. This is disruptive and causes stress to other members.
    We don't want that here.

    For more information please refer to the Boards.ie FAQ.

    If you wish to appeal this ban you can see details on how to do so here.

    ancapailldorcha

    Moderator Note

    post104559591. Stop posting nonsense here.

    Your post:Quote: Jobs OXO
    The only problem I had is this is not a bad lass only now she has to do with that one. You need your ye to get a good deal. You need a good game and a great day you have a look and easy game and you have to play with me ! Ha ha ha. You can get it.

    That's what I think happened.

    The only reason why is it that the only problem I can see yu The walking ye has gone on to hold a seat on a bus. Or Ben


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    I'll request a CMod to get involved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    dudara wrote: »
    I'll request a CMod to get involved.

    Ok thanks.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Please discuss with mods before Cmod review


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Please discuss with mods before Cmod review

    I have. Was told to come here


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Gotcha. Let me look into it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Gotcha. Let me look into it

    Ok thanks. I am particularly concerned with how this has escalated. Especially this latest 3 months ban for starting a light hearted (and partly !) true thread. I am truly not sure what rule I have broken to earn this 3 month ban with a further threat of a permanent ban.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    The escalation of bans is normal in AH. It allows problem posters who do not take advantage of repeated warnings be excluded from the forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    The escalation of bans is normal in AH. It allows problem posters who do not take advantage of repeated warnings be excluded from the forum.

    Ok. Well then I need you to have a look at the 3 I have listed please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Hi can I check if there is an update?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,817 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    The CMod has 3 rather than the usual 1 ban to review. It could take a couple of days to go through the background, discuss with the mods, etc.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Is there anything else you want to add before I make a call on this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Is there anything else you want to add before I make a call on this?

    Well I am baffled with the last ban. Unless I am misreading what AH is I'm unsure why the thread I started was deemed worthy of a 3 month ban.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Hi

    Thank you for your patience.

    I have looked into this in some detail and have spoken to the relevant mods.

    Ban 1
    I don't accept being drunk as an excuse for anyones posting. Most of us drink at some stage in life but manage to avoid adverse consequences.
    I note that you did not discuss this with the mod in question as I requested in my first post on this thread so am therefore not inclined to reverse it at this point. Ban upheld

    Ban 2
    This seems to me like a fairly childish post. AH is not meant to be that high brow but in general I like to think it is higher brow than 'Despite it being as clean as a whistle she's just not on for playing the sexy flute tonight. What can I do?'
    Now in general this probably would not have incurred any action however given that you were just back from a ban for talking rubbish it would seem to me that you did not heed the warning from the first ban and just continued on as before. The length of the ban (1 month) is probably excessive and after discussions with the mod he has stated that he probably would have reduced it had you engaged with him on it. You didn't however. As the ban is already served then reducing it to a week or so is not going to benefit anyone. Therefore ban upheld (however see below re duration).

    Ban 3
    Again you did not heed the warnings given to you in previous bans and continued on posting as you liked. At no point did you stop and consider that maybe your posting style is a problem or that you were a problem. I also do not think you engaged constructively with the mod so again ban upheld.

    What we can do is figure out a way to move forward here. AH (as I stated previously) operates incrimental bans. This is why you got a three month ban most recently and your next ban would most likely be 6 months or permanent.
    What I would suggest is that if you can demonstrate that you have heeded the warnings to date then we can reset you to earlier in the process where your next ban will be 3 months rather than permanent. In this regard you need to stop starting threads for at least a month and refrain from posting about your penis.
    If you can agree to that then I am happy to suspend your most recent ban to time already served and give you back full access to the forum.
    Can you please advise whether this is agreeable to you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Hi

    Thank you for your patience.

    I have looked into this in some detail and have spoken to the relevant mods.

    Ban 1
    I don't accept being drunk as an excuse for anyones posting. Most of us drink at some stage in life but manage to avoid adverse consequences.
    I note that you did not discuss this with the mod in question as I requested in my first post on this thread so am therefore not inclined to reverse it at this point. Ban upheld

    Ban 2
    This seems to me like a fairly childish post. AH is not meant to be that high brow but in general I like to think it is higher brow than 'Despite it being as clean as a whistle she's just not on for playing the sexy flute tonight. What can I do?'
    Now in general this probably would not have incurred any action however given that you were just back from a ban for talking rubbish it would seem to me that you did not heed the warning from the first ban and just continued on as before. The length of the ban (1 month) is probably excessive and after discussions with the mod he has stated that he probably would have reduced it had you engaged with him on it. You didn't however. As the ban is already served then reducing it to a week or so is not going to benefit anyone. Therefore ban upheld (however see below re duration).

    Ban 3
    Again you did not heed the warnings given to you in previous bans and continued on posting as you liked. At no point did you stop and consider that maybe your posting style is a problem or that you were a problem. I also do not think you engaged constructively with the mod so again ban upheld.

    What we can do is figure out a way to move forward here. AH (as I stated previously) operates incrimental bans. This is why you got a three month ban most recently and your next ban would most likely be 6 months or permanent.
    What I would suggest is that if you can demonstrate that you have heeded the warnings to date then we can reset you to earlier in the process where your next ban will be 3 months rather than permanent. In this regard you need to stop starting threads for at least a month and refrain from posting about your penis.
    If you can agree to that then I am happy to suspend your most recent ban to time already served and give you back full access to the forum.
    Can you please advise whether this is agreeable to you?

    Ok agreed.


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