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Oisin stove

  • 24-11-2017 8:09am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭


    Hi got an Oisin non boiler last year . Great job fantastic heat. However . I now have vermiculite coming down the chimney , the stove is out the way and the flue is at the back and going up chimeny , flue liner etc ..... stove was great and got chimney cleaned last month but all of a sudden this vermiculite has started pouring down the opening in chimney, one side . So it's all gathered around back of stove and side . It's not wet its pure dry ... what could have happened here in this case and should it not have been mixed with concrete or is it dry when it's poured down . Somehow there is an opening / crack now where it's coming through

    Help anyone


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 368 ✭✭gillad


    Hi got an Oisin non boiler last year . Great job fantastic heat. However . I now have vermiculite coming down the chimney , the stove is out the way and the flue is at the back and going up chimeny , flue liner etc ..... stove was great and got chimney cleaned last month but all of a sudden this vermiculite has started pouring down the opening in chimney, one side . So it's all gathered around back of stove and side . It's not wet its pure dry ... what could have happened here in this case and should it not have been mixed with concrete or is it dry when it's poured down . Somehow there is an opening / crack now where it's coming through

    Help anyone

    I think the chimney cleaning has moved a pipe so the best option is to get whoever installed the stove to come back and fix it. the vermiculite is not mixed with concrete,it is poured dry .....did he fit a flexi flue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭crossbeauty


    Thanks I have attached a pic . Yes I'd say that's what happened the pipe is moveable so actually the guy who cleaned chimney said it shouldn't move and should have bricks around it or a kind of hinge to hold it to wall to keep it from budging

    Yes a flexiflue was installed (long silver thing yes ?)

    I had a job getting someone to install it in the first place. Not interested , very rural .
    Which is why I ended up getting the guy I did (word of mouth , he is great.l blah blah!!) pain in the ass now this time of year. Will he charge me to fix it, is the installer at fault

    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 368 ✭✭gillad


    Thanks I have attached a pic . Yes I'd say that's what happened the pipe is moveable so actually the guy who cleaned chimney said it shouldn't move and should have bricks around it or a kind of hinge to hold it to wall to keep it from budging

    Yes a flexiflue was installed (long silver thing yes ?)

    I had a job getting someone to install it in the first place. Not interested , very rural .
    Which is why I ended up getting the guy I did (word of mouth , he is great.l blah blah!!) pain in the ass now this time of year. Will he charge me to fix it, is the installer at fault

    Thanks

    He should not charge to fix it.Everything should stay in place for years but he may blame the cleaner...
    Is the chimney in the center of the house?(warmer)....or is the chimney at the end wall of the house(colder)...is it a bungalow or two story?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭crossbeauty


    gillad wrote: »
    He should not charge to fix it.Everything should stay in place for years but he may blame the cleaner...
    Is the chimney in the center of the house?(warmer)....or is the chimney at the end wall of the house(colder)...is it a bungalow or two story?

    It's old cottage , renovated so not too cold. Well insulated . Stove in middle of house (sitting room ) 2 bedrooms either side .

    Is the vermiculite essential ? It's to protect the chimney / flue. I reakon the whole lot is down now anyway . It's a newly built chimney also.

    I know the chimney cleaner bately touched it and literally pulled stove out cleaned and slotted it back in with a tiny amount of sealant . But the pipe is very loose and really should not move he said


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 368 ✭✭gillad


    It's old cottage , renovated so not too cold. Well insulated . Stove in middle of house (sitting room ) 2 bedrooms either side .

    Is the vermiculite essential ? It's to protect the chimney / flue. I reakon the whole lot is down now anyway . It's a newly built chimney also.

    I know the chimney cleaner bately touched it and literally pulled stove out cleaned and slotted it back in with a tiny amount of sealant . But the pipe is very loose and really should not move he said

    The vermiculite is not essential..it is there to add insulation to long sections of flexiflue(two storey) and when the chimney is on an outside wall(colder) and i believe some stove installers have no idea why they are putting it in or else its just an add on to the price.(when I was buying my stove the guy tried to sell me vermiculite and lots of parts to go with it but when i asked him why i needed vermiculite he couldnt tell me.???:confused::pac:
    http://www.stovefittersmanual.co.uk/articles/should-i-insulate-my-chimney-flue-liner/

    You have the same design as me,a single story with chimney in the middle of the house,I have no vermiculite and a perfectly working oisin for 5 years, ......if you can get him to fix it for free then thats great but there is no need to pay someone to put the vermiculite back in as it is not needed.
    Make sure your carbon monoxide alarm is working, just in case something else has happened that you cannot see..the vermiculite may block the gap itself and stop coming down.... if it all comes down then there will be an air gap from sitting room to outside that will lose a bit of heat.,,but this can be fixed cheaply


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭crossbeauty


    ok that's great, i just read that attachment and what I think i will do is contact the installer anyway, i have a spare bag of the stuff here and see if he will fix it....Also i might get him to secure the pipe. IF he answers my call!

    Thanks a million for your help with this. Yes I have my alarm also in the room just in case.


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