Find out owner of car..

The Bishop Basher

Hi,

Not sure if this is possible or not but would appreciate any help..

Bought a car from a bloke on done deal..

Not an expensive car but it has a few bits wrong that weren't disclosed at the time even though I asked..

Motortax.ie tells me the car was bought by a dealer on Nov 1st this year.

I dated the tax book Dec 1st so it will remain in their ownership till then.

Is there any way for the average punter to find out who the dealer is ?

Thanks..

Captain Slow IRL

You could try googling the phone number of the guy who sold you the car, you may be lucky. If you bought it off donedeal and the guy is a trader, he will probably have other adverts listed as well. Beyond that, I'm not sure if you can track down the previous owner.

I'm not sure where you stand with a cheap, defective car and any come-back. I've approached dealerships recently looking to buy a 10 year old car for ~€5k and was informed that they were 'trade sales' with no warranty given due to their age.

Ultimate Seduction

Even if you do track him down, what are you expecting? Sold as seen.

The Bishop Basher

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

You could try googling the phone number of the guy who sold you the car, you may be lucky. If you bought it off donedeal and the guy is a trader, he will probably have other adverts listed as well. Beyond that, I'm not sure if you can track down the previous owner.

Tried google but no joy and he has no other ads listed.. The only reason I know a dealer owns the car is because I checked on Motortax.ie

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

I'm not sure where you stand with a cheap, defective car and any come-back. I've approached dealerships recently looking to buy a 10 year old car for ~€5k and was informed that they were 'trade sales' with no warranty given due to their age.

Sold as seen means nothing.. A dealer has to offer a basic warranty..

Thanks for your responses..

The Bishop Basher

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Even if you do track him down, what are you expecting? Sold as seen.

A couple of hundred quid cash to cover my costs or a call to revenue..

His choice..

Fighting Tao

Swanner wrote: »

Tried google but no joy and he has no other ads listed.. The only reason I know a dealer owns the car is because I checked on Motortax.ie



Sold as seen means nothing.. A dealer has to offer a basic warranty..

Thanks for your responses..

Nothing in the OP says that it was bought from a dealer. It was bought from ‘a bloke’. It only says that it was last registered to a dealer and very recently.

Also does a dealer legally have to offer a warranty?

The Muppet

Swanner wrote: »

Hi,


Bought a car from a bloke on done deal..




I dated the tax book Dec 1st so it will remain in their ownership till then.

Swanner wrote: »

A couple of hundred quid cash to cover my costs or a call to revenue..

His choice..

Good luck with that

elperello

What is wrong with the car and how much did you pay?

CIARAN_BOYLE

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Nothing in the OP says that it was bought from a dealer. It was bought from ‘a bloke’. It only says that it was last registered to a dealer and very recently.

Also does a dealer legally have to offer a warranty?

A dealer is legally required to sell goods of merchantable quality.

Fighting Tao

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

A dealer is legally required to sell goods of merchantable quality.

That’s different to a warranty.

Also, all we know is that it was ‘a bloke’ and not a dealership.

Ultimate Seduction

You have no comeback here as much as you'd like to think you do. If it was a dealer you would be going back to the garage/yard . You bought it off a bloke who may have bought it off dealer. If you want a guarantee then go to a reputable dealer and get guarantee in writing.
A harsh lesson learned here, hopefully not too harsh

The Bishop Basher

It was a cheap car, under €1000..

He bodged the window regulator to work a couple of times but it failed shortly after..

Not sure how he did it but i've taken it apart this morning and i've already had to cut through 2 stripped screws so it was obviously amateur hour..

It's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things..

I expect niggles on a cheap car, and i always throw a few a quid at them when I get them..

I just don't like being deliberately conned and would like to follow it up with this guy John the Con from Collooney..

Ultimate Seduction

You bought a very cheap car and the window worked when you bought it. Get a grip man

K.Flyer

How do you know it was the seller who was at the window regulator, it may have been done a few owners back. Nobody selling a car is going to strip everything out to inspect and check every item

The Bishop Basher

K.Flyer wrote: »

How do you know it was the seller who was at the window regulator, it may have been done a few owners back.

Because it failed for not working on the NCT a couple of days before..

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

You bought a very cheap car and the window worked when you bought it. Get a grip man

I hear you but as i said, i don't like being conned and would like to follow it up with him personally..

If i can i will.. if not so be it..

I only asked if it was possible to find out the name of the dealer..

I wasn't asking for your approval..

Fighting Tao

Swanner wrote: »

Because it failed for not working on the NCT a couple of days before..

So you bought the car knowing that it failed on the NCT for the issue mentioned and you want some comeback?

CIARAN_BOYLE

Fighting Tao wrote: »

That’s different to a warranty.

Also, all we know is that it was ‘a bloke’ and not a dealership.

A lot of blokes are legally dealers but try to pretend to be only blokes in order to avoid their responsibilities as businesses.

We don't know if he is a bloke or a dealer.

Only that he presented himself as a bloke and motortax.ie is presenting him as a dealer.

Fighting Tao

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

A lot of blokes are legally dealers but try to pretend to be only blokes in order to avoid their responsibilities as businesses.

We don't know if he is a bloke or a dealer.

Only that he presented himself as a bloke and motortax.ie is presenting him as a dealer.

Or he could be a bloke that bought it from a dealer thinking he could make a quick buck selling it on and so didn’t bother changing the registration details.

elperello

To be fair he may have thought he fixed it. Did it pass the re-test?

At 1k you could hardly expect any warranty never mind on a window regulator.

I don't know you or him but if was me I wouldn't either threaten to or actually call revenue.

Put it behind you, get a part from a scrapper.

Isambard

doesn't matter what date you put on the taxbook, it was yours when you paid for it.

If you bought it from a Dealer, then you have a comeback....if you bought it from a "bloke" you don't, unless you can prove the "bloke" knew about the faults.

Isambard

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

A lot of blokes are legally dealers but try to pretend to be only blokes in order to avoid their responsibilities as businesses.

We don't know if he is a bloke or a dealer.

Only that he presented himself as a bloke and motortax.ie is presenting him as a dealer.

...illegally dealers in fact...

CIARAN_BOYLE

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Or he could be a bloke that bought it from a dealer thinking he could make a quick buck selling it on and so didn’t bother changing the registration details.

Buying for the purpose of selling at a profit may involve making yourself a dealer for the purpose of consumer protection legislation.

mgbgt1978

Op, your only chance of finding out this Dealer (who sold the car on to "one of those guys who sell 3 or 4 cars a week") would have been to take a photo of the VLC which would have had the previous owners details listed.
He might (if you could find him) tell you where he traded in the Car.
This will still get you absolutely nowhere as you didn't purchase the car from the Dealer.
Just get a regulator from a breakers, fix the car, and get on with things. It's not the end of the world....and I think you know that.:)

colm_mcm

I don't think they'll process future dated VRCs any more.

mgbgt1978

Would any of us be surprised if the 'seller' tippexed out the date and sent off the VRC with the actual date of sale written on the VRC ?

The Bishop Basher

elperello wrote: »

Put it behind you, get a part from a scrapper.

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

Just get a regulator from a breakers, fix the car, and get on with things. It's not the end of the world....and I think you know that.:)

Agreed..

I just thought if there was an easy way to find out i'd chase it up and have word with him but it's definitely not worth any hassle.

I've bought and sold plenty of cars and met all types but this guy was just really sneaky and it pissed me off tbh..

If he'd told me I would have offered him a bit less but still would have taken the car and we both would have walked away honest.

Maybe i've just been lucky but the vast majority of people I deal with are straight and i've rarely had an issue..

Bound to run into the odd wanker every now and again i suppose..