New Impact Driver & Drill

irishbuzz

Will finally be moving into my newly built home in the new year and I'll have a bit of DIY work to do once the builders finish. I'm looking to pick up a cordless driver and drill set.

Will be working with a range of materials: wood, plasterboard, masonry, tiles etc.

There are lots of options out there with decent but I'm a bit unsure which might be the best bang for my buck.

Amazon - Bosch Professional £184.99
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-0615990FN4-Professional-Lithium-Ion-Batteries/dp/B00FYU4E7Q/

Screwfix - Makita €260.95
https://www.ie.screwfix.com/makita-dlx2020sw-18v-3-0ah-li-ion-lxt-cordless-combi-drill-impact-driver-twin-pack.html

Screwfix - DeWalt (Brushless) €296.95
https://www.ie.screwfix.com/dewalt-dck2510l2t-gb-18v-3ah-li-ion-brushless-cordless-combi-drill-impact-driver-twin-pack.html

Hoping somebody here might be able to guide me. Thanks in advance

TopTec

Am reaching the end of an old cottage renovation.

I've had the Makita for a couple of years. A good all rounder for mostly light work. Drills into masonry on hammer. I use the impact driver for door frames and most carpentry with no issues. I did pick up a cheaper electric SDS for heavier jobs like coring and light demolition.

I had previously had a cordless De-Walt but the batteries were never as good as the Makita, and replacements were pricey. Never had a problem with the Makita batteries... still going strong after 2 years medium use.

No experience of the Bosch except I have a SDS Bosch electric which runs very hot on hammer.

My choice would be the Makita.

TT

Graham

I have the DeWalt set, savage bits of gear and never had any issues with the batteries. Couple of lads doing work for us have them for a few years, bought on their recommendation.

Got ours from Caulfield Industrial in Galway, saved a few quid and got next day delivery. No connection other than as a customer.

the_pen_turner

I'm a carpenter and most of my everyday gear is dewalt. in 10 years I have worn out 2 impacts. the oldest one lasted for 6 years or more. the second I had it for 4 years but the last year I drive around 15000 screws with it on one large job. I know have 2 more dewalt impacts and 2 drills. the extra ones are handy so you don't have to swap bits. I have 10 18v and 4 54v batteries and have had no problems with any of them
I cannot recommend dewalt enough. nothing against Makita or bosch, I haven't much personal experience with them. although I do have an 18v x2 (36volt) sds drill and its great


I don't think you need the brushless model. the brushed model is perfectly fine

my3cents

May I recommend this set ....

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DeWalt-DCK211D2T-Li-ion-Cordless-Compact/dp/B00OTYXWE4/

I know its only 10.8 Volt but a neighbor has it and its surprisingly good.

the_pen_turner

my3cents wrote: »

May I recommend this set ....

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DeWalt-DCK211D2T-Li-ion-Cordless-Compact/dp/B00OTYXWE4/

I know its only 10.8 Volt but a neighbor has it and its surprisingly good.

I have one of those impacts as well. its a great little tool. not great for 100mm screws but perfect for small screws into hinges ect. I only bought it because I bought the inspection camera as a bare unit and needed the batteries

my3cents

the_pen_turner wrote: »

I have one of those impacts as well. its a great little tool. not great for 100mm screws but perfect for small screws into hinges ect. I only bought it because I bought the inspection camera as a bare unit and needed the batteries

Funnily enough the reason I'd recommend it is the first thing the guy who bought it did with the impact driver was spend an afternoon using it to fire 100mm screws into joist bridges.

If it was me I'd have gone for the 18V version (have the old NiCad 18V and can't justify replacing it as it still works).

I recommended it here thinking of it as a lighter pair of tools that will take some abuse but more suited for DIY use and second fix work.

the_pen_turner

it would be perfectly fine for a few 100mm screws. I'm biased towards it due to having the 18v tools. 10.8 isn't going to compare well to 18v . great for diy


as a side not , 3 cents do you want an NiCad 18v small circular saw. iv no batteries and no use for it.

my3cents

the_pen_turner wrote: »

it would be perfectly fine for a few 100mm screws. I'm biased towards it due to having the 18v tools. 10.8 isn't going to compare well to 18v . great for diy


as a side not , 3 cents do you want an NiCad 18v small circular saw. iv no batteries and no use for it.

I've two good NiCads so YES thanks.

But if its a useful saw why don't you get the rather overpriced adapter for to use the 2amp Lithium batteries in it?

the_pen_turner

I could get the adapter but I have a Makita 36v circular saw and the dewalt 54 track saw. and a 18v jigsaw. I never use it. yours if you want it

there could be a charger and light there if I can find them. PM me and we will arrange something

listermint

Get brushless. That's what I will say. I am in the process of renovation right now had to pick up some new tools the last year.

Go brushless. Buy once and be happy. It's well worth the money and you'll have a quality tool.

I wouldn't waste my money again on brush one.

the_pen_turner

I have 2 dewalt 18v impact and drill sets. one is brushed and one is brushless.
I don't see any difference really. the brushless one lasts longer but that's irrelevant unless your using it all day. I would rather put the price difference into a battery or 2 or even a second charger

FrancieBrady

Is it a myth that the China made Dewalts are inferior?

Somebody said it to me and I didn't buy when replacing a jigsaw. Gonna need a new panel saw soon and thought I'd ask.

my3cents

listermint wrote: »

Get brushless. That's what I will say. I am in the process of renovation right now had to pick up some new tools the last year.

Go brushless. Buy once and be happy. It's well worth the money and you'll have a quality tool.

I wouldn't waste my money again on brush one.

Can't agree. Yes brushless is better and will last longer but the average DIY is unlikely to see any benefit.

Local builder bought the basic XR SDS Drill when it first came out and hammered it (pun not intended) for a couple of years and wore the brushes out. I doubt a DIYer would have that problem.

My guess is that DeWalt will bring out a new battery system leaving the current one obsolete before a home user will have a problem with brushes wearing out.

the_pen_turner

I cant fault them .
everything is going down in quality overall across all brands.
in all the years I have worn out 2 impacts, broke my chop saw(my fault) , router failed but fixed under warranty even though it was technically out

I have no problem with them.
I will still buy them

saying that there are some tools I have bought from other brands because they are better, like the Makita sds, festool sanders etc

listermint

You won't see the difference until one burns out from being slightly over worked.

There is also more power delivery from brushless.

There is most certainly a difference. To say there is not means you cant tell the difference

the_pen_turner

listermint wrote: »

You won't see the difference until one burns out from being slightly over worked.

There is also more power delivery from brushless.

There is most certainly a difference. To say there is not means you cant tell the difference

side by side I'm sure you will see small differences. I will try it side by side

I don't think anyone will be using the brushed version and think I wish I bought the brushless one.
I have both and use them on the same job and don't have a favourite or notice any major difference that would make me say you have to go brushless. . they both do the job just fine