Civil Service Probation and fractured foot

Butterfly182

Hi,

I am in my probation year as an EO in the Civil Service and I fractured my foot yesterday. I've been A&E and my foot is in a half cast. Am i allowed to come to work in a half cast? Can they decide not to keep me on after my probation year if i have to take a few weeks off because of my fractured foot. I've never taken sick leave of any kind before. Im only three moments into my probation year. I was a TCO from June 2016-August 2017 with my sick leave if that matters. I would appreciate any guidance on this because i don't know what to do.

Thanks.

Riskymove

Butterfly182 wrote: »

I would appreciate any guidance on this because i don't know what to do.

Thanks.

sorry to hear about your injury

I think you should relax. It would be very unliekly for them to not retain you over a week or two due to an injury....once they are otherwise happy anyway

they might look to extend your probation by a few weeks but I wouldn't imagine they would do anything more than that.

in relation to going to work in a cast that is a matter for your doctors to say if that is possible of if they are signing you off work for any time.

drunkmonkey

Turn up for work if your on probation, have a word with your manager when you get there and access the situation then. If it's a desk job no reason you cannot be in.

Guffy

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Turn up for work if your on probation, have a word with your manager when you get there and access the situation then. If it's a desk job no reason you cannot be in.

Id be more inclined to contact the manager before showing.

bobbysands81

Butterfly182 wrote: »

Hi,

I am in my probation year as an EO in the Civil Service and I fractured my foot yesterday. I've been A&E and my foot is in a half cast. Am i allowed to come to work in a half cast? Can they decide not to keep me on after my probation year if i have to take a few weeks off because of my fractured foot. I've never taken sick leave of any kind before. Im only three moments into my probation year. I was a TCO from June 2016-August 2017 with my sick leave if that matters. I would appreciate any guidance on this because i don't know what to do.

Thanks.

You have nothing to worry about as long as you communicate with your Line Manager/HR about what happened. The very worst that can happen is that your probationary period be extended for a certain amount of time if you’re out of work for quite a lengthy period.

Contact your Line Manager and ask them if you’re allowed return to work with the cast on. Explain why you’re anxious and that you’re keen to return. A broken bone is discounted as a one-off injury by the CMO if it needs to be discounted.

Contact your Employee Assistance Officer if you’re still worried. www.cseas.per.gov.ie

Butterfly182

Thanks for the replies so far. I've stayed off work today, rang my line manager this morning, she's talked with HR. I know now that I can take 14 days sick (including weekends) without it affecting my probationary period if it's my only instance of sick leave. HR said to contact them if I'm out longer than 14 days or as soon as i know how long I will be out. I have an appointment on 29/11/2017 to see how it's healing and what type of support I need for it.

I have 18 days annual leave left until April and a day and a half flexi built up for this month. What happens with my flexi? Is there something that I can't combine sick leave with annual leave? Say after 14 days I'm still not able to get to work I can't use flexi or annual can I?

My line manager is looking into whether I am covered re insurance to be on site with the injury. I can't work remotely either so that's not a possibility. When I spoke with HR he said it would depend whether my doctor would consider me fit for work or not. He thinks that it would be okay if i came back to work on crutches as long as I was certified fit for work. Anyone know anything different?

SJ.

The civil service does not have insurance.

SeaFields

Buddy of mine was on probation last year as an EO when he broke his knee playing a match. There was no bother at all. His probation was extended by the period of time he was out (two months as far as I remember) and I believe the absence was discounted from his record because it was an accident.

To be fair, what happened to you cannot be helped. It's not as if you are calling in sick every second Monday morning. Don't worry about it.

Kristopherus

SJ. wrote: »

The civil service does not have insurance.

Yes, they do. All public service entities have E & P.L insurance.

SJ.

Kristopherus wrote: »

Yes, they do. All public service entities have E & P.L insurance.

No, they don't.
http://stateclaims.ie/about-our-work/state-indemnity/

The general rule is that no insurance should be effected against the risk of any loss which, if it arose, would fall wholly and directly on public funds. This is based on the understanding that the risks for which the Government is liable are innumerable and widely distributed, and that losses maturing in any one year are never so large as to materially disturb the financial position of the year, so that it is cheaper in the long term for the Exchequer to "carry its own insurance"

Creol1

Butterfly182 wrote: »

Is there something that I can't combine sick leave with annual leave? Say after 14 days I'm still not able to get to work I can't use flexi or annual can I?

As far as I know, it is unlawful to take annual leave (or, I imagine, flexi-time leave) for sick leave.

Bear in mind that the Unfair Dismissals Act kicks in after one year, regardless of whether probation has been extended.