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Saorview Questions

  • 20-11-2017 4:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,918 ✭✭✭


    Hi folks, I've two questions if anyone can help?

    1) I'd like to run Saorview down an existing and in-use Sat cable if possible. The issue is, this cable goes over the roof of the house, meaning no way to ad an a signal booster. In general, what kind of cable lengths can be used until problems start to be seen?

    2) Is there some new Saorview/Freesat combi box about to launch, or has launched? I remember reading about it on Boards but now can't find anything on it.

    Cheers all


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭Ten Pin


    1) Use an indoor combiner at one end of the cable run and an outdoor combiner at the other end (see here).

    2) Saorview Connect is the box you've heard about, hasn't had great reviews since launch last week, thread here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,918 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Ten Pin wrote: »
    1) Use an indoor combiner at one end of the cable run and an outdoor combiner at the other end.

    Perfect! Thank you. The current setup is a twin-sat cable coming from the LNB, over the roof, and down into the living room at the front of the house. I'm half thinking I might not bother with a combiner, and leave one of the leads dedicated to sat, and one to sv. Apart from watching something while recording something else, there's no real advantage to having two sat feeds coming in is there? The combiners could always be added in at a later stage anyway.
    2) Saorview Connect is the box you've heard about, hasn't had great reviews since launch last week, thread here

    That's the one, cheers. I might just stick with a regular combi box so. It's for someone who won't be a 'power user' so to speak, but what I would want for them, is all channels sortable and in a single list. Would something like this get the job done, or is the money better spent on something else - http://www.freetv.ie/combo-receiver/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭Ten Pin


    There's a few threads in the satellite forum on combo choices.

    Formuler F1 is getting good reviews and is about same price as the one you linked.

    Other threads to read are this and
    here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,918 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Ten Pin wrote: »
    There's a few threads in the satellite forum on combo choices.

    Formuler F1 is getting good reviews and is about same price as the one you linked.

    Other threads to read are this and
    here

    Brill, thanks a mill. Will do some reading over the next few days!

    Finally (!), is there anything special about installing a Saorview aerial? I'm looking at either this - http://www.freetv.ie/outdoor-uhf-tv-aerial-kit/ or this - http://www.freetv.ie/saorview-uhf-tv-aerial-kit/

    I'm not 100% sure what white tip/yellow tip etc means :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭Ten Pin


    Scroll down on that page to "transmitter" heading for info on aerial selection.

    Those links are for the full kit, the aerials are available without the pole and cable here if using an existing pole and cable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭exaisle


    Are you sure you need an external antenna for Saorview?

    Roughly whereabouts are you??

    It may not be necessary to dedicate one cable to sat and another to terrestrial if you can pick up Saorview with an internal antenna...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    Inviere wrote: »
    ... The issue is, this cable goes over the roof of the house, meaning no way to ad an a signal booster.

    If you find the signal does need a bit of a boost, a masthead amplifier can go outside, with its power supply being inside & sending power up the aerial cable. Won't work if you're using sat./terr. combiners though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,969 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Inviere wrote: »
    Finally (!), is there anything special about installing a Saorview aerial? I'm looking at either this - http://www.freetv.ie/outdoor-uhf-tv-aerial-kit/ or this - http://www.freetv.ie/saorview-uhf-tv-aerial-kit/

    I'm not 100% sure what white tip/yellow tip etc means :o

    This is some information I posted over in another thread recently, the Saorview information below will describe the aerial colour coding

    Find the transmitter recommended for your location here - https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/coverage

    One of these aerials will be required, the aerial group will depend on the frequencies used by your recommended transmitter - http://www.freetv.ie/saorview/tv-aerials/uhf/

    SAORVIEW Transmitter, Frequency & Aerial Group Information - http://www.2rn.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/2RN-DTT-Television-Transmission-Network-Sep-2014.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,918 ✭✭✭Inviere


    exaisle wrote: »
    Are you sure you need an external antenna for Saorview?

    Roughly whereabouts are you??

    It may not be necessary to dedicate one cable to sat and another to terrestrial if you can pick up Saorview with an internal antenna...

    Dublin 20, Palmerstown area. Apparently about 15km's from the Three Rock transmitter
    The Cush wrote: »
    This is some information I posted over in another thread recently, the Saorview information below will describe the aerial colour coding

    Find the transmitter recommended for your location here - https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/coverage

    One of these aerials will be required, the aerial group will depend on the frequencies used by your recommended transmitter - http://www.freetv.ie/saorview/tv-aerials/uhf/

    SAORVIEW Transmitter, Frequency & Aerial Group Information - http://www.2rn.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/2RN-DTT-Television-Transmission-Network-Sep-2014.pdf

    Great, will take a look now, cheers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,969 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Inviere wrote: »
    Dublin 20, Palmerstown area. Apparently about 15km's from the Three Rock transmitter

    Group A, red tip aerial for Three Rock.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,918 ✭✭✭Inviere


    The Cush wrote: »
    Group A, red tip aerial for Three Rock.

    You're a star, thanks a mill :) Any issues with mounting these to the back of the house up high, rather than all the way up on a chimney? I know it depends on the distance to the transmitter, but at 15km's from three rock, whaddya reckon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,486 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    Inviere wrote: »
    You're a star, thanks a mill :) Any issues with mounting these to the back of the house up high, rather than all the way up on a chimney? I know it depends on the distance to the transmitter, but at 15km's from three rock, whaddya reckon?

    I'm close to your location. My Saorview aerial is in the attic, providing perfect reception from Three Rock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,918 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Final question - on the aerial itself (this one - http://www.freetv.ie/red-group-a-uhf-aerial/) is the connection an f-connector (the sat cable I'll use is already in place and terminated with an f-connector)? Then on the inside, I'll need it to be a coax type connector, so will use one of these - http://www.freetv.ie/coaxial-male-to-f-connector-adaptor-1s/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭exaisle


    You'll either get the signal from Three Rock or Kippure....possibly on a set-top antenna, depending on obstructions...but if you have an attic, you'll definitely get it there...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,918 ✭✭✭Inviere


    exaisle wrote: »
    You'll either get the signal from Three Rock or Kippure....possibly on a set-top antenna, depending on obstructions...but if you have an attic, you'll definitely get it there...

    There is an attic, but it's a converted room. There's a spare sat cable outside ready to go, which is already routed down to the living room, so I'm hoping that'll be able to get the job done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,969 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Inviere wrote: »
    Final question - on the aerial itself (this one - http://www.freetv.ie/red-group-a-uhf-aerial/) is the connection an f-connector (the sat cable I'll use is already in place and terminated with an f-connector)? Then on the inside, I'll need it to be a coax type connector, so will use one of these - http://www.freetv.ie/coaxial-male-to-f-connector-adaptor-1s/

    See under the assembly tab on that page how to connect the co-ax cable to the aerial, it 's not an F-connector.

    This is the co-ax connector you'll require inside - http://www.freetv.ie/coaxial-connectors-1s/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,918 ✭✭✭Inviere


    The Cush wrote: »
    See under the assembly tab on that page how to connect the co-ax cable to the aerial, it 's not an F-connector.

    Great, nice video guide for it.
    This is the co-ax connector you'll require inside - http://www.freetv.ie/coaxial-connectors-1s/

    The cable is already laid, and on the end has a sat f-connector. I think the adaptor I linked above just converts that into the coax type you have above?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,969 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Inviere wrote: »
    The cable is already laid, and on the end has a sat f-connector. I think the adaptor I linked above just converts that into the coax type you have above?
    Yes, that'll do then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭Ten Pin


    Get a few of the other F to coax adaptors too just in case the aerial has the other coax connector.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭decor58


    Inviere wrote:
    Dublin 20, Palmerstown area. Apparently about 15km's from the Three Rock transmitter


    A friend of mine is in Celbridge and gets Saorview fine on an attic mounted aerial.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,969 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Ten Pin wrote: »
    Get a few of the other F to coax adaptors too just in case the aerial has the other coax connector.

    Those Blake contract aerials are pretty basic, strip back the cable, centre core to one side of the dipole and braid to the other side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭Ten Pin


    Those Blake contract aerials are pretty basic, strip back the cable, centre core to one side of the dipole and braid to the other side.
    In that case OP should get a short length of cable to connect to aerial terminals and another connector to screw on to the existing sat cable that OP might reuse for sat in the future. I think OP is trying to save the hassle of routing a new cable for the aerial at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,969 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Ten Pin wrote: »
    In that case OP should get a short length of cable to connect to aerial terminals and another connector to screw on to the existing sat cable that OP might reuse for sat in the future. I think OP is trying to save the hassle of routing a new cable for the aerial at the moment.

    Personally I'd not add another cable joint externally, could become a water trap for water ingress at some point in the future, the aerial junction box is fairly waterproof.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,918 ✭✭✭Inviere


    All done. Aerial fitted beside sat dish, spare sat cable wired to aerial, f-connector to coax adapter installed at other end, voila - getting a reading of 90/90 & all channels coming in perfectly. Thanks folks! Btw I went with the SAB Titan III in the end, it ticked all the boxes & has zero setup (apart from tuning in the Saorview channels).


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