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100km per day. What new car? Up to € 30k

  • 19-11-2017 11:08pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭


    I would have always said diesel engine for 100km per day. Now im not so sure.

    It is just me on tje Mon to friday work commute but I have two small kids which I may need to transport from.time to time

    I'd spend up to 30k and would need it not until mid 2018 as if hope my current 2006 car will keep going for another while!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭Bigus


    Hyundai Ioniq EV , if you can get your hands on one
    Check out the ev forum on boards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    What sort of driving is that 100km per day? Is it motorway or city driving?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭kifi


    bazz26 wrote: »
    What sort of driving is that 100km per day? Is it motorway or city driving?

    Motorway and secondary roads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Hybrid may not really be suitable for motorway type driving where you are constantly doing 60 to 70 mph. Conventional petrol car will not be as frugal as a diesel for that type of driving either but may be your only option if you don't want a diesel. What are you driving at the moment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Bigus wrote:
    Hyundai Ioniq EV , if you can get your hands on one Check out the ev forum on boards


    +1 for that if you read the posts in the EV forum.

    I think that once you go electric, you'd basically never want to go back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭commited


    Electric is the way to go for your use, especially if your workplace are willing to install a chargepoint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,127 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    kifi wrote: »
    I would have always said diesel engine for 100km per day. Now im not so sure.

    It is just me on tje Mon to friday work commute but I have two small kids which I may need to transport from.time to time

    I'd spend up to 30k and would need it not until mid 2018 as if hope my current 2006 car will keep going for another while!

    Ioniq will do double the range you need it to. Electric will be way cheaper ownership than diesel...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭cros13


    New 2018 Leaf is a good option too, more power and range than the Ioniq.
    First delivery (February) is almost sold out though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    kifi wrote: »
    I would have always said diesel engine for 100km per day.

    Me too. Doing more than that, about 160km/day commute, just bought a diesel Octavia.

    Electric motors are brilliant in cars - batteries need more work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,712 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Hybrid may not really be suitable for motorway type driving where you are constantly doing 60 to 70 mph. Conventional petrol car will not be as frugal as a diesel for that type of driving either but may be your only option if you don't want a diesel. What are you driving at the moment?

    I did my old 124km round trip commute in a new Prius, for about 3 weeks last year, and it was giving some pretty amazing fuel consumption - long term average over the 1,860km's or so was 3.8 l/100km - and that was with the adaptive cruise on most of the time.

    M1/M50 rarely go above 100km/h and I got it to run on battery only (for limited times) up to 105km/h. Main reason the fuel figures were on par, if not better than a diesel on the same run is the M50 queues - hybrid uses much less fuel in that type of traffic than a diesel, especially if you've got a good bit of charge held back to try and do as much of the 3km tailback as possible on battery alone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,849 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Kia Niro if you want a hyprid car that also looks classy, Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross SUV if you want a cool petrol SUV that looks great too and has a classy and stylish interior. There is a hyprid version of it due in the future too but no date when could be next year or the year after.
    Suzuki also have a mild hyprid in there Vitara if you like that that's a few options anyway.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭cros13


    Me too. Doing more than that, about 160km/day commute, just bought a diesel Octavia.

    Electric motors are brilliant in cars - batteries need more work.

    My commute is 27km longer than yours at it's shortest. Portlaoise to Dublin. And I do a lot of of travel across europe (longest trip so far Dublin to Berlin and back - 4000km).
    I do 60-65 thousand km per annum on my primary EV and another 30 thousand on my second.
    Many current EV models are suitable for commutes circa 200km.

    Frankly, unless people are doing Cork to Dublin more than once or twice a week there's a suitable EV model for them either already here or on the way.
    Several models launching here in the next 12-18 months with 400-500+km real world range.

    The only big exceptions are:
    • Anyone who needs to tow (EVs are inherently better tow vehicles than diesel, but unless you are willing to spend €90k right now there's nothing on the market yet with sufficient motor cooling and rating/warranty cover for towing).
    • Some special requirements like 7-seaters restrict people to one model which may not suit in range or price.
    • People without allocated parking that they can fit a chargepoint to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭kifi


    cros13 wrote: »
    My commute is 27km longer than yours at it's shortest. Portlaoise to Dublin. And I do a lot of of travel across europe (longest trip so far Dublin to Berlin and back - 4000km).
    I do 60-65 thousand km per annum on my primary EV and another 30 thousand on my second.
    Many current EV models are suitable for commutes circa 200km.

    Frankly, unless people are doing Cork to Dublin more than once or twice a week there's a suitable EV model for them either already here or on the way.
    Several models launching here in the next 12-18 months with 400-500+km real world range.

    The only big exceptions are:
    • Anyone who needs to tow (EVs are inherently better tow vehicles than diesel, but unless you are willing to spend €90k right now there's nothing on the market yet with sufficient motor cooling and rating/warranty cover for towing).
    • Some special requirements like 7-seaters restrict people to one model which may not suit in range or price.
    • People without allocated parking that they can fit a chargepoint to.

    I think you pointed out one major issue. The pace of EV tech advancement. Perhaps a other year or two might be a better time to buy where perhaps advancement might level off


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