Eu emissions , what good for the goose is good for the gander .

kerry cow

I read on agri land that Belarus have launched a new tractor with a tier 3 motor but can't sell that motor in the EU till they source a tier 4 motor .
Like what are we at here .
Certain parts of this planet comply to regulations , that cost a bunch of dollars while the rest do what they like .
I feel like we are living in a fish bowl .

ganmo

You're running over the same old ground

kerry cow

I don't write for agri land . But I do end up paying dearly for living in my parish .
It's all a dictatorship imo.
What do you think melted the ice that ran up your local valley many moons ago .
Well it wasn't motor pollution .

Tommy Ferguson

Are you Danny Healy Rae Kerry Cow?

Floki

Tommy Ferguson wrote: »

Are you Danny Healy Rae Kerry Cow?

He's not wrong though Tommy it wasn't motor pollution.

Even the maddest of people still have a grain of truth.

Question is how many ice ages and melts have we had since this little blue ball started Tommy?

kerry cow

Europe is becoming a dictatorship , people who argue otherwise are blinded to the future and you just can't change that .I don't have a problem with how people view things but some just can't see the wood from the trees .
Our own government are a establishment and the establishment is a machine that has no face and it is squeezing the people slow into submission slowly and they dont even see it .
That's why the British are leaving and the Spanish are up in arms .
The French will bolt too .it will take time .
It might be 50yrs or 100 yrs but this country will revolt with in again .
Look at the banks .they want plastic money .the revenue want plastic money .you have to enter registered for everything from a radio to a toilet .
There are cameras on every corner and the roads are scanned etc .
You may laughter at me but you will re read this post sometime to find the truth .
We are becoming prisoners in our own parish .
The big brother is watching .
Wait till you will be chipped like a dog , and you will have no choice . Resist and you world will ceast to move .

Tommy Ferguson

Floki wrote: »

He's not wrong though Tommy it wasn't motor pollution.

Even the maddest of people still have a grain of truth.

Question is how many ice ages and melts have we had since this little blue ball started Tommy?

What little blue ball mike?

Birdnuts

I would be of the opinion that the EU's approach to this has been seriously flawed and based on bad science. It has simply moved industry/emmissions out of member states to cheaper economies while at the same time massively increasing the cost of power across the bloc,
including Ireland which now has one of the highest energy costs in the EU:(

kerry cow

I watched a documentary on tata motors who could produce the cheapest car in the world . The same price as a motor bike .millions of them .
But you can not use one in the EU .
We are not at the races .
The Germans are boss

Bigus

kerry cow wrote: »

I watched a documentary on tata motors who could produce the cheapest car in the world . The same price as a motor bike .millions of them .
But you can not use one in the EU .
We are not at the races .
The Germans are boss

Bloody good reason they are not allowed for safety reasons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8wjh9VvNzU

Floki

Tommy Ferguson wrote: »

What little blue ball mike?

The one you're standing on. Roger.

Good loser

kerry cow wrote: »

Europe is becoming a dictatorship , people who argue otherwise are blinded to the future and you just can't change that .I don't have a problem with how people view things but some just can't see the wood from the trees .
Our own government are a establishment and the establishment is a machine that has no face and it is squeezing the people slow into submission slowly and they dont even see it .
That's why the British are leaving and the Spanish are up in arms .
The French will bolt too .it will take time .
It might be 50yrs or 100 yrs but this country will revolt with in again .
Look at the banks .they want plastic money .the revenue want plastic money .you have to enter registered for everything from a radio to a toilet .
There are cameras on every corner and the roads are scanned etc .
You may laughter at me but you will re read this post sometime to find the truth .
We are becoming prisoners in our own parish .
The big brother is watching .
Wait till you will be chipped like a dog , and you will have no choice . Resist and you world will ceast to move .

If anyone can't see the wood from the trees around here it seems to me you fit the bill in all respects.

Inchoate hyperbole from beginning to end - detached from reality.

A hard Brexit will give you something serious to worry about.

kerry cow

Good loser wrote:

Inchoate hyperbole from beginning to end - detached from reality.

Good loser wrote:

If anyone can't see the wood from the trees around here it seems to me you fit the bill in all respects.

Good loser wrote:

A hard Brexit will give you something serious to worry about.

Sounds like a well educated civil servant

kowtow

Good loser wrote:

Inchoate hyperbole from beginning to end - detached from reality.

Kerry Cow made a whole series of points and a couple of fairly sound observations.

You can't just attack his writing style and expect us all to believe you for unspecified reasons, we are all far too cute to fall for that kind of carry on.

Never wrestle with pigs

kerry cow wrote: »

Europe is becoming a dictatorship , people who argue otherwise are blinded to the future and you just can't change that .I don't have a problem with how people view things but some just can't see the wood from the trees .
Our own government are a establishment and the establishment is a machine that has no face and it is squeezing the people slow into submission slowly and they dont even see it .
That's why the British are leaving and the Spanish are up in arms .
The French will bolt too .it will take time .
It might be 50yrs or 100 yrs but this country will revolt with in again .
Look at the banks .they want plastic money .the revenue want plastic money .you have to enter registered for everything from a radio to a toilet .
There are cameras on every corner and the roads are scanned etc .
You may laughter at me but you will re read this post sometime to find the truth .
We are becoming prisoners in our own parish .
The big brother is watching .
Wait till you will be chipped like a dog , and you will have no choice . Resist and you world will ceast to move .

To be fair your kinda right. Look at all the country's rolled over by wars the last 10/15 years. They all had one thing in common and it wasn't oil. None of them had a central bank. They want control over every country's banking system.

Interesting read

http://www.theeventchronicle.com/finanace/three-countries-left-without-rothschild-central-bank/#

yosemitesam1

kerry cow wrote: »

I read on agri land that Belarus have launched a new tractor with a tier 3 motor but can't sell that motor in the EU till they source a tier 4 motor .
Like what are we at here .
Certain parts of this planet comply to regulations , that cost a bunch of dollars while the rest do what they like .
I feel like we are living in a fish bowl .

Agree with some of what you're saying, but if we were only to do what everyone else was doing there'd never be any change.
In this case its mainly an air quality thing that the changes in diesel engines have been focused on. Less smoke is definitely worth the effort and cost. Its well proven that dirty diesel smoke is bad for health.
Any changes made a few thousand miles away will have a negligible impact compared to what we do in this case

Vronsky

kerry cow wrote: »

I read on agri land that Belarus have launched a new tractor with a tier 3 motor but can't sell that motor in the EU till they source a tier 4 motor .
Like what are we at here .
Certain parts of this planet comply to regulations , that cost a bunch of dollars while the rest do what they like .
I feel like we are living in a fish bowl .

Kerry, the reason farmers her a subsidy is so that they can compete on the market and not ruin the environment at the same time.

An Ireland outside the EU would certainly mean the end of payments to farmers over time. We'd be left with maybe 200 farmers in the country, the forum would be much quieter then.

Nekarsulm

In my opinion, as soon as Carbon Credits became a tradable commodity the entire concept of "Green" economy became a joke.
Find some country in the South Pacific with little or no polluting industry, throw them a hatfull of money, and hey-presto! You are suddenly a non polluting country.

Donegalforever

kerry cow wrote: »

I read on agri land that Belarus have launched a new tractor with a tier 3 motor but can't sell that motor in the EU till they source a tier 4 motor .
Like what are we at here .
Certain parts of this planet comply to regulations , that cost a bunch of dollars while the rest do what they like .
I feel like we are living in a fish bowl .

You are correct we are swimming around in a fish bowl and getting (almost) nowhere. Unfortunately there seems to be little we can do about it.

patsy_mccabe

Why don't the government 'underestimate' the number of cattle in the country. You know just conveniently forget to add, say county Cork and Tipp.

Nekarsulm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Why don't the government 'underestimate' the number of cattle in the country. You know just conveniently forget to add, say county Cork and Tipp.

A sort of "Reverse Breathalyzer" calculation ......

patsy_mccabe

Nekarsulm wrote: »

A sort of "Reverse Breathalyzer" calculation ......

Exatly. Instead of adding up, we subract down. We could even get the same genious in the Guards to do it. It's not like he's doing anything else now.

Good loser

kowtow wrote: »

Kerry Cow made a whole series of points and a couple of fairly sound observations.

You can't just attack his writing style and expect us all to believe you for unspecified reasons, we are all far too cute to fall for that kind of carry on.

Which of his points/observations are sound?

His writing style might be woeful but his 'ideas' are far worse.

kerry cow

Good loser wrote:

Which of his points/observations are sound?

Good loser wrote:

His writing style might be woeful but his 'ideas' are far worse.

I am disappointed that the mods allow you to attack me personally as I was expressing my view on a topic and did not come on here about my personality .why do you feel the need to bully me ?
You don't know me or anything about my personal life but continue to insult my piont of view about every opinion I have .
Nasty

Nekarsulm

Jeez Kerry, "bullying" is too strong a word.
Robust debate is what we like here, don't go all Snowflake on us

patsy_mccabe

Not like a Kerry man to pull back from the tackles.

blue5000

Good loser wrote: »

If anyone can't see the wood from the trees around here it seems to me you fit the bill in all respects.

Inchoate hyperbole from beginning to end - detached from reality.

A hard Brexit will give you something serious to worry about.

kerry cow wrote: »

Sounds like a well educated civil servant

Good loser wrote: »

Which of his points/observations are sound?

His writing style might be woeful but his 'ideas' are far worse.

kerry cow wrote: »

I am disappointed that the mods allow you to attack me personally as I was expressing my view on a topic and did not come on here about my personality .why do you feel the need to bully me ?
You don't know me or anything about my personal life but continue to insult my piont of view about every opinion I have .
Nasty

Mod note, main reason the mods haven't done anything about it is nobody reported the post. Calm down both of you, attack the post not the man.