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UK Middle School Trained - Can I work in Ireland?!

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  • 18-11-2017 5:17pm
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    Bell Eve
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭


    Hi :)
    I'm Irish and have a Undergrad Degree in languages from an Irish university but I moved to England to do my teacher training. I have a PGCE in Key Stage 2/3 with a specialism in MFL. This course covered the entire primary curriculum for Key Stage 2 (Year 3-6/ 2nd-6th Class) and also teaching languages at secondary (Years 7-9/ First-Third Year). The age range covered is 7-14. I have taught in both secondary school and a primary school here in the UK. In the secondary I was an SEN teacher with additional languages classes and in primary I teach languages to all year groups from Nursery to Year 6, but also have responsibility for a class so I teach the full curriculum too. Altogether I have 6 years teaching experience. 
    Ideally I want to move home to Ireland to teach in a primary school there but I don't know how realistic that would be with my qualifications. Does anyone know if my teaching experience will count for anything or would my application to the Teaching Council be rejected due to my lack of qualification for the lower years in school? 
    Keeping my fingers crossed!


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    byhookorbycrook
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    Primary teachers here must be able to teach infants to 6th and also SEN.You would also need an Irish language qualification and garda vetting. Apply to the TC anyhow and see what they say.


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    williaint
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    I completed a secondary PGCE in England so I can't comment on the Irish shortfall but after the PGCE I did a Master of Education and the TC are *still* saying it does not equate to the PME. This is not the case for anyone who trained pre 2014 in England. In other words, it's not just Irish you need to consider.

    The bursary for secondary depending on subject is nearly £30k tax free, I do not think there is any bursary for primary so you have no huge financial incentive to go to England.

    I trained down south as it was a really good university but then moved up north in my NQT as cost of living is so much cheaper. I would not live anywhere in the south east, it is so expensive and outside of London you get nothing extra. There are some really good unis in the north like Durham, York, Lancaster, etc. See if they offer the primary PGCE.

    I can't comment too much on primary teaching but secondary in England is incredibly tough (half of the people I trained with in 2016 have now left the profession, most were late 20s and they weren't just out of their undergrads) and the system is obsessed with targets but maybe primary is different?

    I couldn't afford to do the PME here and was offered £25k to go to England but if your heart is set on teaching in Ireland then I would stay here. The NQT year over there is also more observations and targets and depending on the school can be much tougher than the PGCE. In my last school, they failed the NQT as progress was too slow in his classes and he can now never teach again in a state school.


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