45 degree hill. Winter tyres?

adrianegan3

Living up a steep hill at least 45degrees will winter turns be sufficient when snow and ice comes

CiniO

adrianegan3 wrote: »

Living up a steep hill at least 45degrees will winter turns be sufficient when snow and ice comes

Unless you're driving some really able offroader 4x4, you won't make 45 degrees slope on dry tarmac, not to mention snow or ice.
Good luck.

adrianegan3

CiniO wrote: »

Unless you're driving some really able offroader 4x4, you won't make 45 degrees slope on dry tarmac, not to mention snow or ice.
Good luck.

Would chains be my best option or would studs work

CiniO

adrianegan3 wrote: »

Would chains be my best option or would studs work

It's illegal to drive with studded tyres on Irish roads (those not covered in snow anyway) so I can't imagine how would you use tyres like that.

Chains might help, but still won't let you make 45deg incline on ice or snow.

spyderski

adrianegan3 wrote: »

Living up a steep hill at least 45degrees will winter turns be sufficient when snow and ice comes

45 degrees? Really? You’ll be needing a winch so, not winter tyres! 😉

adrianegan3

spyderski wrote: »

45 degrees? Really? You’ll be needing a winch so, not winter tyres! 😉

It quite steep 40degrees possibley

whomitconcerns

You have a 40° rise to your house.???? Well a 4*4 with winter tyres will be a step in the right direction (which will still be in reverse) can you show us this online on Google maps?

The below is a 19° rise

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_Street#/media/File:Baldwinstreet.jpg

whomitconcerns

biko

Moved out from old thread.

The hill is just steep, it's not 45 degrees.

biko

On topic, how have you fared until now?
Do you usually have problems at winter with snow and ice?

If its just a short hill the chains or socks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x8iHyLWWKw

Isambard

I have a very steep drive up to the road and keep some salt handy. It's not practical to salt the whole drive so I tend to do just enough to clear a safe passage to the top. With notice I tend to clear just enough for a car to be parked inside the entrance at the top of the slope. Not suitable for a concrete drive though as it rots the concrete.

biko

Collect sand/gravel and use that instead. It's better for the environment and just as good on ice.

Wishbone Ash

adrianegan3 wrote: »

It quite steep 40degrees possibley

Do you know what the gradient is in percentage terms?


Over in the cycling forum, the steepest roads in the country are often discussed as they very popular with cyclists however very few (public) roads here exceed 25% gradient which is 1 in 4.

Excuse my ignorance but wouldn't a 45 degree gradient be a 50% gradient - i.e. 1 in 2? I don't think any road would be that steep.

JBokeh

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Do you know what the gradient is in percentage terms?


Over in the cycling forum, the steepest roads in the country are often discussed as they very popular with cyclists however very few (public) roads here exceed 25% gradient which is 1 in 4.

Excuse my ignorance but wouldn't a 45 degree gradient be a 50% gradient - i.e. 1 in 2? I don't think any road would be that steep.

It would be 100%, for every meter moved forward, a meter would be moved upward too.

Anything more than that would probably require spiderman branded tyres

joujoujou

CiniO wrote: »

It's illegal to drive with studded tyres on Irish roads [...]

It's perfectly legal.

Needles73

A ski lift would be best method of getting up 45deg slope

mikeecho

adrianegan3 wrote: »

Living up a steep hill at least 45degrees will winter turns be sufficient when snow and ice comes

Lads it could be more than 45%

A unimog might be the only option



How else is the op going to get to his house

whomitconcerns

joujoujou wrote: »

CiniO wrote: »

It's illegal to drive with studded tyres on Irish roads [...]

It's perfectly legal.

It's not really as straight forward as that. While not illegal specifically, using them on a normal road where it's not covered in ice and snow could be illegal as they can cause damage to the road. So they aren't really a solution for your every day car in this country

joujoujou

whomitconcerns wrote: »

It's not really as straight forward as that. While not illegal specifically, using them on a normal road where it's not covered in ice and snow could be illegal as they can cause damage to the road.

On cop's discretion.

whomitconcerns wrote: »

So they aren't really a solution for your every day car in this country

Obviously. :cool:

Although climbing up 50% hill is not really a daily challenge in this country.

mikeecho

If the incline is that steep... I don't think the cops will be able to give chase.

whomitconcerns

joujoujou wrote: »

whomitconcerns wrote: »

It's not really as straight forward as that. While not illegal specifically, using them on a normal road where it's not covered in ice and snow could be illegal as they can cause damage to the road.

On cop's discretion.

whomitconcerns wrote: »

So they aren't really a solution for your every day car in this country

Obviously. :cool:

Although climbing up 50% hill is not really a daily challenge in this country.

You'd have to watch him try though

whomitconcerns

joujoujou wrote: »

whomitconcerns wrote: »

It's not really as straight forward as that. While not illegal specifically, using them on a normal road where it's not covered in ice and snow could be illegal as they can cause damage to the road.

On cop's discretion.

whomitconcerns wrote: »

So they aren't really a solution for your every day car in this country

Obviously. :cool:

Although climbing up 50% hill is not really a daily challenge in this country.

You'd have to watch him try though

H3llR4iser

Very few airplanes that aren't fighter jets can sustain a 45 degrees climb, let alone cars

Thinking about it, going up a 45 degree slope on foot, well, will probably require a climbing harness and gear!!!

Del2005

Whatever about going up I wouldn't like to be going down a slope that steep in ice or snow as that's a black slope when skiing, studs and chains can still slip with an extra 35km/h acceleration acting on a vehicle

exaisle

Rather than argue the toss about what the angle is, I can say for certain that good winter tyres will allow you to drive up a hill that you wouldn't have a hope of getting up on standard tyres. However, once the temperature rises above 8 or 9 degrees, you need to get them off as they'll wear very quickly.

I've used winter tyres in snow here for the past ten years and swear by them. They'll give you grip you won't believe.

I've tried snow chains and socks. Neither are a patch on winter tyres. There's a case for having chains in the boot just in case you get caught out by a quick snowfall and freeze but don't waste your time on snow socks.

Riva10

whomitconcerns wrote: »

Covered in snow ?

Esel

OP needs a clinometer, methinks.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclinometer