Rear brake pads first time

honda boi

Rear pads are worn down to the point of scrapping and mechanic can't look at it for a awhile.
Wanna give it a go myself. I know the rear caliper pistons aren't like the front and that you need to turn and push to get the piston back.
Is the special tool necessary? Or is there any diy tips?
If I have to get the tool I will.
Seen this on Amazon ,it do the job?
Tech Traders® BRAKE CALIPER PISTON REWIND WIND BACK TOOL KIT 21PCS https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N55W9CE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_p43bAbRPKM7W3
Car is a 04 ford cmax 1.6tdci

EPAndlee

The wind back tool is a lot handier. Have often used a long nosed pliers and turn it back slowly

greasepalm

a lot of cars with handbrake lever on calipers will need winding back with a tool,follow the guide for replacing the pads and if there is a locator on piston side make sure it is lined up.

scamalert

might need a tool with two pins one like on amazon link, but if its older car you could get away using long crowbar to push piston back enough worked on older mazda that didnt have pins, best to look up youtube vids on someone doing it to get idea if it has pins and overall process on your model.

easy enough job just get lubricant for piston 4e,copper grease 6e and pads are cheap enough from most motor factor shops between 20-50 quid for set, also dont forget to open brake fluid under the bonnet to allow it expand once piston is pushed in,as not to get leak edge,and obvious handbrake applied as well.

if got right tools to lift car take off bolts of wheels think its no12 screwdriver to get the two nuts out and flat head to remove clip, overall about good 30 min per wheel job,but first time might be few hours again depending on skill and tools at hand.

PCeeeee

The tool is def worth having. If your caliper is sticky the piston can be a hoor to get back. Easy enough job otherwise.

PCeeeee

Maybe you know how to do it already but this buck does a good run through of it. A bit more than just pads but he shows how to deal with the brake lines etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kf8C4Qxu-A

Toyotafanboi

I'd recommend the tool too. I done my first set of rear pads on my Civic, I didn't have the rewind tool.

The first calliper wound back real easy with a needle nose pliers but I literally spent 2-3 hours fluting around with the other calliper and I could not get it to go in. Many skinned knuckles and a nicked piston boot later, I went and bought a rewind tool. Had the calliper back in seconds.

PCeeeee

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I'd recommend the tool too. I done my first set of rear pads on my Civic, I didn't have the rewind tool.

The first calliper wound back real easy with a needle nose pliers but I literally spent 2-3 hours fluting around with the other calliper and I could not get it to go in. Many skinned knuckles and a nicked piston boot later, I went and bought a rewind tool. Had the calliper back in seconds.

:pac::pac::pac:

That story sounds real familiar

honda boi

Thanks lads gonna order this one from amazon so. Don't wanna be stick half way through the job as you,s said with the nose pliers not working.
Babz 22 34 Universal Brake Caliper Piston Rewind Kit Wind Back Tool Car Vehicle https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LFTMZF8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_pClcAbTJZZZ8X
Seen the disc has a lip on the top and bottom from the worn pads so put an order for a set of brake discs along with other service items from mister auto.
Am I right in thinking that Im better off changing the pads and discs on both sides or would doing the one side be OK as the other side isn't bad?
Gotta master my engine braking till this stuff arrives

Tommy Ferguson

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I'd recommend the tool too. I done my first set of rear pads on my Civic, I didn't have the rewind tool.

The first calliper wound back real easy with a needle nose pliers but I literally spent 2-3 hours fluting around with the other calliper and I could not get it to go in. Many skinned knuckles and a nicked piston boot later, I went and bought a rewind tool. Had the calliper back in seconds.

I thought you were a qualified mechanic?

Toyotafanboi

Tommy Ferguson wrote: »

I thought you were a qualified mechanic?

I spend too much time working with cars, then going home and playing with cars cleaning and fixing them, reading about cars, talking on the internet about cars and watching tv shows about cars but no I'm not a mechanic.

jimbis

honda boi wrote: »

Thanks lads gonna order this one from amazon so. Don't wanna be stick half way through the job as you,s said with the nose pliers not working.
Babz 22 34 Universal Brake Caliper Piston Rewind Kit Wind Back Tool Car Vehicle https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LFTMZF8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_pClcAbTJZZZ8X
Seen the disc has a lip on the top and bottom from the worn pads so put an order for a set of brake discs along with other service items from mister auto.
Am I right in thinking that Im better off changing the pads and discs on both sides or would doing the one side be OK as the other side isn't bad?
Gotta master my engine braking till this stuff arrives

Definitely change both sides at the same time.
That kit is great, I have one myself and has changed 100's of brakes and freed up some very stubborn calipers.

Autochange

The sooner licensing and regulation to work on vehicles comes in the better. No disrespect but the op hasn't a clue what he is doing and could potentially cause an accident due to an incorrect repair.

honda boi

Autochange wrote: »

The sooner licensing and regulation to work on vehicles comes in the better. No disrespect but the op hasn't a clue what he is doing and could potentially cause an accident due to an incorrect repair.

I've worked on brakes on my motorbikes and done front brake work on my cars ,I just never did rear brakes so was just asking advice.
Whole point of this forum is for advice on diy car maintenance !

JohnBoy26

Autochange wrote: »

The sooner licensing and regulation to work on vehicles comes in the better. No disrespect but the op hasn't a clue what he is doing and could potentially cause an accident due to an incorrect repair.

Audioslaven

Autochange wrote: »

The sooner licensing and regulation to work on vehicles comes in the better. No disrespect but the op hasn't a clue what he is doing and could potentially cause an accident due to an incorrect repair.

There could be a lot of garages out of work rather than Diyer

Autochange

Audioslaven wrote: »

There could be a lot of garages out of work rather than Diyer

Mechanics just like electricians and plumbers will have to be certified to perform maintenance.
Mechanics work in garages.

Anyway its something i can see coming down the line.
Hope you get your car sorted anyway OP.
I bought a similar brake rewind set from AliExpress. Great job

Audioslaven

Autochange wrote: »

Mechanics just like electricians and plumbers will have to be certified to perform maintenance.
Mechanics work in garages.

Anyway its something i can see coming down the line.
Hope you get your car sorted anyway OP.
I bought a similar brake rewind set from AliExpress. Great job

Well each car is different so only qualified mechanics should only maintain cars. This means only the dealers can do their cars as they have completed the course for the model.

More self serving crap that you would hear from the government. Next you will be running NCTs on humans.... too much emissions out of you so put you down

Nanny crap!! He owns the car, let him do what he wants. He is learning so fair play to him.

Autochange

Audioslaven wrote: »

Well each car is different so only qualified mechanics should only maintain cars. This means only the dealers can do their cars as they have completed the course for the model.

More self serving crap that you would hear from the government. Next you will be running NCTs on humans.... too much emissions out of you so put you down

Nanny crap!! He owns the car, let him do what he wants. He is learning so fair play to him.

Of course he can do what he wants. There is no regulation.


Manufacturers dont want independents working on their cars. They spend billions on research and development only to lose business to independent garages.

This Eu law stops them from locking independents out.

https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/automotive/technical-harmonisation/vehicle-repair-maintenance_en

Audioslaven

Autochange wrote: »

Of course he can do what he wants. There is no regulation.


Manufacturers dont want independents working on their cars. They spend billions on research and development only to lose business to independent garages.

This Eu law stops them from locking independents out.

https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/automotive/technical-harmonisation/vehicle-repair-maintenance_en

There should be no regulation. There is no issue here and we have enough of this nanny state crap

biko

Ok folks, back on topic please

honda boi

Thanks for the advice lads.
Thanks for the offer SNIP
Finally got around to doing it today.
Got the tool kit yesterday.
Poxy kit doesn't fit the pistons on the cmax.
Nipples were either too far apart or too thick.
Managed to get the one that was too thick to fit in slightly but my god still took a long time to wind back.
One pad was fairly f**led,while the other wasn't as bad.
Sliding pins were full of crap,scrapped off and greased up,was good as new.
Unfortunately couldn't get the disc off as the bolts holding it were rusted rounded.
Only managed to do one side as hours in the rain was enough for today

Autochange

Try using a 6 sided socket instead of those multi notched ones that come in sets. They have a much better grip. Can help sometimes with rusty soft bolt heads

biko

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PCeeeee

honda boi wrote: »

Thanks for the advice lads.

Nipples were either too far apart or too thick.
Managed to get the one that was too thick to fit in slightly but my god still took a long time to wind back.

Sounds like that one almost will fit? You could try taking a wee bit of them all round with a file, it might do enough to let them get seated better in the groove.

Good work btw, not easy when you'r getting wetter the longer it takes

greasepalm

now looking at that brake pad how bad is the disc thinking it might need pads and discs and remember new pads and discs will stop car in a shorter distance over old bad discs that have grooves and a lip from extreme wear and thinking one disc might be a different colour due to been seized in caliper, if needed file down pads for a looser fit will get the life out of the pads.